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I don't agree with this list. It looks like Tom's is trying to promote Intel chips more than they would seem. I don't know, but AMD has some pretty affordable and well performing CPU's. This article seems to try and push Intel CPU's over AMD's (especially if you consider how Intel tried to cover up the Meltdown/Spectre issues). This just seems to be a bit too slanted towards Intel, IMHO. I could be wrong, but that is how I see this article.
 
I don't agree with this list. It looks like Tom's is trying to promote Intel chips more than they would seem. I don't know, but AMD has some pretty affordable and well performing CPU's. This article seems to try and push Intel CPU's over AMD's (especially if you consider how Intel tried to cover up the Meltdown/Spectre issues). This just seems to be a bit too slanted towards Intel, IMHO. I could be wrong, but that is how I see this article.
 
Paul Acorn

You cannot in all seriousness give any award to any Intel CPU considering the security flaws that they all have.

Even with respect to gaming. how can a gaming CPU be good if someone can poke into your computer and at any time to :
1) Slow down your computer
2) Steal your passwords, banking information, and investments
3) Restart your PC while you're playing your game.

Meltdown, with the ME bug can do this. With the AMT bug they can do it from anywhere.

Until Intel fixes these bugs.. which is still in progress, what you are saying is:

Tom's Hardware believes that these two CPU's are the best you can buy for gaming. We don't consider gaming security, computer security, financial security, or any sort of data security or integrity for the operating system.

Is Tom's seriously saying that? Do you believe that these unpatched CPU's are worth more than one that functions properly?

Do you see the ridiculousness that you're writing as an Intel fanboy? This is ludicrous. You dragged Tom's Hardware name through the mud with this nonsense.

Intel and Tom's Hardware ARE NOT ASSOCIATED. Tom's Hardware should have NO interest is covering or propping up Intel sales. If you were truly interested in providing an unbiased review then you'd at the very least not give an award to what can only be called a work in progress with respect to Intel's CPU's.

Intel doesn't have a single properly functioning CPU on the market.. AND YOU GAVE THEM AN AWARD????

YOU GAVE THEM TWO!!!! ???
 


AMD is also susceptible to Spectre, but not Meltdown. According to the AMD's site, it will release a BIOS patch to address this soon. We are not aware of the performance impact of that fix, but we are told there is an impact that will vary based on workload.

As such, we aren't entirely sure of the net impact on both Intel and AMD hardware, but we are working hard to quantify this and will share our results.

These awards were given prior to the announcement of the vulnerabilities. We will adjust the recommendations if the performance picture changes after the patches.


 


Seriously, do you know when this article was posted?

Have you gotten over yourself yet?

The exploits were only recently found, so how can an article pre-dating that, garner such extreme ire from you? Maybe you can let us in on the real reasons....

Okay, i think we understand you have an issue with the performance of Intel chips as a result of the flaws, and maybe one or two of your points are relative (i'm still trying to figure out which ones exactly), but I guess, there has been no real testing yet of the pre/post patched systems, although that will happen. Seemingly, it hasn't/doesn't impact gaming too much. The slowdown seems to be mostly related to various drops in performance in certain scenarios, but hasn't been established yet what impact there may be on gaming.

Despite your protestations, I think the results at the time of this article are pretty accurate. You may disagree with that, and that's your choice, but the coverage on Tom's for the Best CPU were accurate at the time.

Regardless, the impact of these exploits are unknown (or at least not fully verified) So you can surmise all you want about what the potential effects of the exploits are, but we just don't know yet, exactly.

The patches are rolling out, so when everything is updated, and can be tested, we will know more. Until then, there is no point in rollicking Tom's for doing their job, as they see it.

It could be argued either way, that there is a bias, or not. I guess Tom's, like every other website covering hardware/tech have to get revenue from somewhere so that they can cover the costs of providing the service. Do they get sponsorship etc, or advertising revenue for promoting new products from the Intel/AMD? Well we don't know, but it's likely. But that's life. Such is the commercial, advertisement filled world we live in. They need to make money somehow to provide the service to us readers.

Stop venting, and just take it easy. Your anger is of no benefit, to you or to Tom's.

Peace out! :)
 


By reading your message I think that the only fan boy here is you.. And that explains the outrage. Obviously it seems like you don't know anything about CPU's and don't know anything about SPECTRE and MELTDOWN security flaws or how they work. Spectre is affecting every single Modern CPU and it applies to AMD (including Ryzen), Intel, ARM and Apple. Yes that's right AMD is also affected by SPECTRE 1 and SPECTRE 2. You can read it here by AMD itself:
https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution.
Google Project Zero (GPZ) Variant 1 (Bounds Check Bypass or Spectre) is applicable to AMD processors.
We believe this threat can be contained with an operating system (OS) patch and we have been working with OS providers to address this issue.
Microsoft is distributing patches for the majority of AMD systems now. We are working closely with them to correct an issue that paused the distribution of patches for some older AMD processors (AMD Opteron, Athlon and AMD Turion X2 Ultra families) earlier this week. We expect this issue to be corrected shortly and Microsoft should resume updates for these older processors by next week. For the latest details, please see Microsoft’s website.
Linux vendors are also rolling out patches across AMD products now.
GPZ Variant 2 (Branch Target Injection or Spectre) is applicable to AMD processors.
While we believe that AMD’s processor architectures make it difficult to exploit Variant 2, we continue to work closely with the industry on this threat. We have defined additional steps through a combination of processor microcode updates and OS patches that we will make available to AMD customers and partners to further mitigate the threat.
AMD will make optional microcode updates available to our customers and partners for Ryzen and EPYC processors starting this week. We expect to make updates available for our previous generation products over the coming weeks. These software updates will be provided by system providers and OS vendors; please check with your supplier for the latest information on the available option for your configuration and requirements.
Linux vendors have begun to roll out OS patches for AMD systems, and we are working closely with Microsoft on the timing for distributing their patches. We are also engaging closely with the Linux community on development of “return trampoline” (Retpoline) software mitigations.

For a detailed list of processors affected go here:https://www.techarp.com/guides/complete-meltdown-spectre-cpu-list/

I'm sorry to burst your bubble.. 😉
 
I appreciate you effort but this page is getting more and more confusing.
Why don't you make it like a couple of years ago? White to white and black to black! Now every thing is gray.
 
Am I correct in guessing that the Pentium G4600 would be a better choice at the same price as the Pentium G4560? The 4600 is a bit faster and has a better GPU.
 


Are you referring to the website changes, in a forum thread/article about the best CPU? DOH!!!

You should re-post in another section!
 
If you've followed Tom's Hardware for a couple of years it should be chrystal clear that the only relevant factor here is gaming performance.
- The security flaws and their latest fixes do not (significantly) hamper gaming performance.
- Since the vast majority of games only put serious load on one or (rarely) two threads at any given time single threaded performance, and with that Intel's CPUs, rule!
Given these premises one can argue that the list isn't biased but simply reflecting the "truth".

AMD's Ryzen series is (for me) the go-to option for a more balanced computer that should be able to do other tasks as well, and I do like my Ryzen 5!

Of the listed recommendations the Core i5-8400 is the most questionable.
As tested with a high end (~$200) Z370 board (that allows the CPU to run above its 65W TDP) the performance is really good, but pricing for CPU and motherboard doesn't really make it a good buy.
A budget friendly (<$150 Z370 or other) motherboard will keep it on a tighter power budget, and assuming that the chip will also be from a lower binning than the 8600K one must expect lower (multi-core) boost frequencies than those shown in the review. Also expect the single core 4.0 GHz to be valid for <5 seconds at a time.
Then gaming performance will be more on par (trade blows) with that of an overclocked Ryzen 5.
 
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