BEST GEFORCE VIDEO CARD

[Shafty]

Dude, I told you, 2gig helps. I give up, I'm not responding anymore. Your not listening.

 

[Korbin91]

ok, but you keep telling me its NEADED!!! but you dont tell me why its neaded. and you make it sound like i cant play any game with 1 gig without it lagging terribly. Your right this is getting old, but i want to know if i can get a smooth gameplay without getting 2 gig, i dont want 2 gig. Yeah i know it will help alot, but i seriously think it doesnt do that much. So please stop saying i nead 2 gig and tell me if a better video card will help!

 

[Anoobis]

Will a 7800GT run better than a 6800 in BF2? Of course it will. Hands down, regardless of whether or not you have 1GB or 2GB of RAM

I don't think you will have a problem running BF2 on your current machine if you get a 7800GT.

From your posts, this is how you want to run BF2: 1280x1024 on HIGH, no AA or AF.

Right?

A 7800GT should be able to run at those settings but you will still get some of the "chunkyness" because the system will probably have to do some pagefile swapping.

Besides, the only things that are clear from reading your posts, is that you want a 7800GT and you don't want 2GBs of RAM. You had your mind made up before you started the post.

However, don't come back here complaining that it doesn't play the way you want after everyone has told you to get 2GBs. Your posts are confusing enough when you switch back and forth between terms like MAX, High, Smooth, Chunkyness, etc...

 

[Korbin91]

FINALLY I GET WHAT I WANTED!!!

 

[dokk]

check this out..

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/28cpu-games_3.html.


1 g or 2 g dosen't make that much of a difference...

 

[Korbin91]

check this out..

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/28cpu-games_3.html.


1 g or 2 g dosen't make that much of a difference...

You gave me a bad link, went to the page, came up with error. So that means i had to go looking for it. Ofcource i found it. I saw that 1 gig WAS slower but not by much at all. Thank you for showing me this, thats pretty much all i have been looking for

 

[nannerla]

Trust me you will need 2 gigs to have it all on high, I can't use High-res without it choking cause I only have 1 gig.

 

[sleepdeprived82]

Toms article on bf2 ram is just funny. Why test the theory using 800x600, who plays games at that resolution?. They also used a demo map which is not the biggest and i doubt they used a full 64 player server the toughest test you can get. I find that article a bit of a joke. There are much better articles out there.

http://www.bcchardware.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=1742&Itemid=40&limit=1&limitstart=2

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/tech/AN506_1GB_vs_2GB.pdf

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/2gb-ram_11.html

http://images.crucial.com/pdf/CrucialBF2.pdf

The higher the res you play and the higher the settings the more ram you will need. This is because BF2 is badly coded the bigger the map, the more players and the higher the settings the more ram it uses. I play on MAX and Bf2 uses around 900mb then add windows processes you easily go past 1gb. If there is not enough ram the computer will start to use swapfile on the hard drive. The hard drive also happens to be one of the slowest parts of the computer so using this whilst gaming is not good for performance.

The use of the swapfile in BF2 will cause:
Slower load times than those with enough ram, meaning others get to those planes and tanks first.
Heavy stutter at the start of the map, meaning those that got in quick can kill you whilst you stutter around.
Moments of stutter during gameplay,meaning at the vital time e.g a heavy fire fight you start stuttering and get shot. This pissed me off the most using 1gb

No matter what gfx card you have high settings on BF2 requires 1.5gb+

Im not trying to sell you extra ram just advising you not to believe every toms article.
The 7800gt is a nice card and will serve you very well just remember BF2 is badly coded and gfx and ram play a big part in its performance.
EA have said themselves they can not put in any more weapons as unlcoks because of the huge memory issue.

 

[TabrisDarkPeace]

chuck, do you think the Geforce 6800 128mb is good for battlefield 2 on high settings? I play mine with high settings and i can only play at wake island (with 32 players) without it choking. I think its my video card, only becuz my Radeon X600 256mb on low settings run better than this on low settings.

A GeForce 6800 'vanilla' is only half as powerful as the GeForce 6800 GT / 6800 GS models.

No I am not kidding.

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From: http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/05/24/vga_charts_vi/index.html

GeForce 6800 GT NV45 256MB DX 9.0c 350 1000 256 bit 16
GeForce 6800 NV45 256MB DX 9.0c 325 600 256 bit 12
GeForce 6600 GT NV43 128MB DX 9.0c 500 1000 128 bit 8
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GPU core speed (MHz) x Number of pipelines = GPU performance (Gpixel/sec)

Video RAM speed (MHz, inc DDR) x width (eg: 256 bit) / 8 = GB/sec of Video RAM.

The 6800 vanilla GPU is only 70% that of the 6800 GT/GS
The Video RAM on the 6800 vanilla is only 60% of the 6800 GT/GS

So while everyone else with a 6800 GT/GS gets 60fps, you'll only be getting 36 to 42 fps.

Of course, the 7800 GT / 7900 GT put it to shame even more.

Surprised we are still getting threads on this very question.
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Regarding system memory.

Battlefield 2 will cause most systems hit a a peak commit charge of 1,400 MB (Check in Task Manager, Performance tab, after playing it for an hour).

So you'll want 2 GB for it, as that still leaves you with 552 MB for disk caching, and 96 MB for Windows Kernel (uses about that on average). The game will actually load faster because it wont be paging 400 MB of stuff to disk each map change, while trying to read all the resources to load the map.

:idea: Storing your pagefile on a different physical drive (or array) to the game actually improves BF2 load times if you only have 1 GB of RAM. 8) - Frankly I find that pathetic, the game should be coded better, 1400 MB memory just for the game is wasteful. (It could make to with 768 MB.)

Hopefully, if it hasn't already been ported to console already, they'll get it right, and release a patch for the PC community version of BF2.

UPDATE: Just tried it then, and got peak commit charge to: 1,364,156 KB ; although 40 MB of that is MSN and Media Player, and 80 MB is Firefox which I left open. But that is over 1 GB still, and thus on a system with only 1 GB would shrink the OS System / disk cache very small, making it near useless.

Tip: Task Manager, Performance Tab, is a very useful tool. Even when run after something has occured it has some valuable stats.

 

[falsterbo]

1 gig would be fine, ill try the 2 gig but i dont think im going to see much of a difference. Im thinking about buying the 7800 GT 256mb, is that a good choice to run at high (NOT MAX!!!) settings for battlefield 2?

I have got
AMD64 3700+
2x SLI 7800GT @ 475/1250MHz
250Gb SATA2 with 16MB cache


When I use 1Gb ram I get about 20-100FPS and an average of 30, and that is not good and that was because I only had 1Gb ram! Now I have 2Gb (4x512MB) that runs at Dual Channel and I have an average of 50FPS now... It never goes under 40!

I am know able to run every game at max settings @ 1280x1024 (because of my 19" screen)

 

[Korbin91]

Falsterbo, did YOU see a difference?

 

[darkstar782]

I have known a few recent games use more than 1gig at a time on my system (I have 3gb).

Not only that, but as soon as you want to run TeamSpeak/Ventrillo for comms, your IM clients, Any P2P programs you use, Your (rather pointless) software firewall, Your AV program, etc all in the background, then more RAM = good.

Given the price of RAM these days I dont understand why people would NOT have well over a GB when they spend so much on the rest of their systems.

 

[Korbin91]

ooooooh that makes more sence than

 

[falsterbo]

Falsterbo, did YOU see a difference?

Yes, it doesn´t lag any more!!!
When I had 1Gb and ran BF2, it would stop every 2-3 second or so and then run for 2-3 seconds again... Now when I have 2Gb ram it just runs on and on, no lag/stops!

 

[Korbin91]

ok, if i were to get 2 gig, whats the best way to have it. 4x512mb, 2x1gig, or 2gig?

 

[falsterbo]

ok, if i were to get 2 gig, whats the best way to have it. 4x512mb, 2x1gig, or 2gig?

Almost everybody says 2x 1024Gb...
I have 4x 512Mb because I had 2x 512Mb and upgraded with 2x 512 more and that´s also becuase I have DDR550 ram.

Only one person said that my 4x 512Mb would run in Dual Channel, even the Asus people (motherboard support) said that it will run in Single Channel if I had 4x 512Mb instead of 2x 1024Mb. But it does run at Dual Channel with 4x 512Mb 😀

 

[jony22]

korbin u are a f**king idiot why do you come here for advice if youre not going to listen everyone keeps telling you bf2 plays better with 2 gigs of ram but you ignore it and keep question everone who obiously know a lot more than you do. I doubt you even know crap about anything pc related. You sir are a fuking retard.

 

[Korbin91]

ok jony, but get this. people tell me get 2 gig, I DONT WANT IT!!! GET IT!!!? i dont want 2 gig !!! THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF FIXING THIS!!!. A BETTER VIDEO CARD WOULD HELP, HOW AM I SURE, I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD WITH 1 GIG AND PLAYING BATTLEFIELD 2 AND IT RUNS JUST FINE!. SO PLEASE jONY!, SHUTUP!

 

[Korbin91]

Almost everybody says 2x 1024Gb...
I have 4x 512Mb because I had 2x 512Mb and upgraded with 2x 512 more and that´s also becuase I have DDR550 ram.

Only one person said that my 4x 512Mb would run in Dual Channel, even the Asus people (motherboard support) said that it will run in Single Channel if I had 4x 512Mb instead of 2x 1024Mb. But it does run at Dual Channel with 4x 512Mb 😀

So you think 4x512mb is the way to go?

 

[Fungalberry]

Go to Newegg.com and search (in the video cards section) for 7900 GT. This card, regardless of manufacturer, will run Battlefield 2 with no hiccups at all. 7900 GTs run just a tad over $300. The one that I am purchasing for my new rig is $309, so if you're willing to spend $9 more. However, if you're not in a hurry, you could wait until Direct X 10 comes out (the 7900 runs on Direct X 9) in something like three months time. Waiting would save money, as you would not need to upgrade for quite a while. But...if you're impatient like I am, just go grab a 7900 GT (NOT GTX...make sure of that, those cost lots more) for 'bout $300. Good luck!

 

[Korbin91]

yeah i was looking at the 7900 GT. Great Price too, Way better than the 7800 GT and GTX. So yeah ill look more into that

 

[falsterbo]

Go to Newegg.com and search (in the video cards section) for 7900 GT. This card, regardless of manufacturer, will run Battlefield 2 with no hiccups at all. 7900 GTs run just a tad over $300. The one that I am purchasing for my new rig is $309, so if you're willing to spend $9 more. However, if you're not in a hurry, you could wait until Direct X 10 comes out (the 7900 runs on Direct X 9) in something like three months time. Waiting would save money, as you would not need to upgrade for quite a while. But...if you're impatient like I am, just go grab a 7900 GT (NOT GTX...make sure of that, those cost lots more) for 'bout $300. Good luck!

The Geforce 7900GT will lagg in BF2 if you 1,5Gb ram or less... Because it will run the game from the harddrive when the ram is full.

 

[darkstar782]

ok, if i were to get 2 gig, whats the best way to have it. 4x512mb, 2x1gig, or 2gig?

Almost everybody says 2x 1024Gb...
I have 4x 512Mb because I had 2x 512Mb and upgraded with 2x 512 more and that´s also becuase I have DDR550 ram.

Only one person said that my 4x 512Mb would run in Dual Channel, even the Asus people (motherboard support) said that it will run in Single Channel if I had 4x 512Mb instead of 2x 1024Mb. But it does run at Dual Channel with 4x 512Mb 😀

The more physical DIMMs you have, the higher the signal degradation and the more chance of instability/crashes, hence why alot of mobos wont run the ram at 400MHz with 4 DIMMs and hence why server manufacturers are looking at alternatives such as FB-DIMM.

Some will *let* you still run at 400+ MHz but the more DIMMs the lower the max stable speed.

If you already have 2*512MB I'd add another single 1G stick and maybe replace the old 2*512 at a later date.

 

[Korbin91]

falsterbo, 1.5 or less. ok that makes me wonder, its just 512 more than what i have, ive seen charts showing 2gig and 1 gig isnt a great difference, so i don think 1.5 is that different at all. ok lets say i got 512 more, i see no difference... now what? get 512 more? i put 2 gig in here before, saw a little improvement

 

[darkstar782]

IMHO a system with a $300 7900GT deserves 2 gig ram, especially when its only going to cost you $100 or so to add an additional 1 gig.

I cant really add anything else