best GPU for i5 6500

[darkerm]

I just sold my Zotac 750ti 2Gb GPU and I'm looking for a new GPU to buy.
I want to buy the best gpu for my setup that wont bottleneck my cpu.
my choice is RX 580 4GB and 1060 6GB
My Rig:
Samsung Curve 22inch 1080p Monitor with AMD FreeSync
i5 6500
G.skill Ripjaws V DDR4 (4x2GB) 8GB
Gigabyte Sniper B7 Motherboard
PSU Antec Neo Eco semi modular 550w 80+ Bronze

 

[Dunlop0078]

Well if you want to use freesync you have to get the an AMD card. The RX 580 is not ridiculously overpriced? Are you in US? If not how much does it cost where you live?

 

[darkerm]

Well if you want to use freesync you have to get the an AMD card. The RX 580 is not ridiculously overpriced? Are you in US? If not how much does it cost where you live?

I'm from Bangladesh.
GIGABYTE RX580 AORUS 4GB is 25,200 taka which is 306 USD

 

[photonboy]

Hi,
There is no exact "bottleneck" point, you can only look on average.

There are many games where a GTX1080Ti will beat a GTX1080 even with "only" an i5-6500.

So your choice comes down to BUDGET and what value you can get.

I strongly recommend at least 6GB of VRAM (i.e. GTX1060 6GB, or RX-470 8GB or better). There are already games where 4GB is borderline, and games will continue to use more VRAM over the next few years.

To help estimate FPS vs DOLLAR: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_570_Pulse/30.html

In the USA the GTX1060 6GB is the best value at the $300USD (ish) mark.

*I am not familiar with your stores, but if you have to choose between an RX-580 4GB, vs an RX-480 8GB then get the RX-480 8GB instead.

http://www.bdstall.com/details/gigabyte-radeon-rx-480-g1-gaming-8gb-desktop-graphics-card-32277/

 

[darkerm]

@photony yeah 1060 6GB was my 1st choise but AMD freesync is a great tech. 8GB is out of stock and its pricey..
580 8gb vs 1060 6GB. which is better?

 

[photonboy]

UPDATE:
Now I could be wrong, but I believe the RX-580 (with same cooler) is almost 10% faster than an RX-480 but the RX-480 has slightly more overclock left so if both are overclocked near max there may be only a 5% or so difference.

But... if you run a game that needs more than 4GB of VRAM it will have big FPS drops, possibly quick stutters due to constant texture loading due to data swapping in certain games (that's been proven comparing RX-480 8GB vs 4GB version in some games).

 

[darkerm]

@photonboy well my monitor is 1080p and bought it just 2 month age, before that I used 720p. so I will be using it for alteast 2year or more.
but I need a gpu that can game for like at least 3year in 1080p high setting if possible ultra.
but the prblm is 8gb 580 is out of stock everywhere and some are just as pricey as 1070.
I want to buy 1060 6gb wiht is arounf 28,000 taka (340 usd) but then I will no able to get freesynch.

 

[photonboy]

@photonboy well my monitor is 1080p and bought it just 2 month age, before that I used 720p. so I will be using it for alteast 2year or more.
but I need a gpu that can game for like at least 3year in 1080p high setting if possible ultra.
but the prblm is 8gb 580 is out of stock everywhere and some are just as pricey as 1070.
I want to buy 1060 6gb wiht is arounf 28,000 taka (340 usd) but then I will no able to get freesynch.

So... ?
Your choice seems to be to go with the GTX1060 6GB or wait for prices to drop on other cards. Obviously that's not desirable as you have no dGPU now.

The RX-580 8GB and GTX1060 6GB essentially trade blows in terms of gaming. Without getting into much detail, sure the main advantage of the AMD card is Freesync.

*MOST GAMES will run fine with only 4GB of VRAM though, especially at 1080p. If you get a new monitor, or you get STUTTER or FPS drops that you think may be a VRAM issue, then simply DROP the game settings such as 4xMSAA from 8xMSAA.

https://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/90/much-vram-need-1080p-1440p-4k-aa-enabled/index.html

It turns out it's HARD to know how much you "need" since even if you report 5GB usage in a game with a 6GB card it may work fine at 4GB anyway (as it may just load more data if it has lots of VRAM even if it's not needed at the moment).

at 1080p:
Fallout 4: 3GB
Witcher 3: 2GB
B4: 2GB
Shadows of Mordor: 4.7GB (using the HD texture pack which I don't recommend as it's VERY hard to see the difference)

GTA5: 4GB (may or may not "need" all 4GB)
etc.

That's also at ULTRA settings which you likely won't be at.

OTHER:
*Find the FREESYNC RANGE for that 22" monitor. I would then cap the FPS on games (not sure how with AMD) individually, or use the GLOBAL FPS cap set to 5FPS below the top.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/kjH48d/samsung-c22f390-220-60hz-monitor-c22f390

Is that your monitor?
If so I'd run most games at 55FPS (too close to 60FPS can cause stutters) in Freesync mode. For faster SHOOTERS try just going with VSYNC OFF and 100FPS+ if the screen tearing isn't too bad. That may feel more responsive than 55FPS FREESYNC but I can't test that.

If you cap to 55FPS for a game, crank the settings to ULTRA then see how much it dips. If you maintain 55FPS great. If you average 30FPS experiment with the game settings.

 

[photonboy]

UPDATE: https://gpunerd.com/guides/freesync-monitor-list

If you have the C22F390 then Freesync range is 48Hz to 72Hz. So then desktop resolution should actually be 72Hz, and you should perhaps set the global FPS cap to about 67FPS (Bethesda games to 60FPS if you get any weird judder/micro-stutter).

And again, minimize drops below the low-end which is apparently 48FPS.

I don't know the optimal way to set the FPS for each game, but the GLOBAL FPS cap might be ideal then disable that cap for individual games you want to run with VSYNC OFF at high FPS settings?

So if you played Assassin's Creed Ultra, change the game settings until you stay above 48FPS at least 90% of the time to avoid dropping below Freesync range. You can monitor with FRAPS, or if you have STEAM use the FPS counter as it's a lot smaller.

 

[photonboy]

It sounds like people recommend setting individual game FPS caps with RIVATUNER and avoiding the GLOBAL FPS cap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg7I4GH5dhw

The goal is to have minimal LAG, no screen-tear, and no added stutter/judder so if any of that gets worse using Rivatuner don't use it for that game, or Google for another way.

For example:
1. Freesync ON
2. download and run Rivatuner (old but I guess it works fine): http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163
3. select Fallout 4
4. set 60FPS cap (for other games up to 67FPS)

I'm NOT an expert on this, and also don't quite understand why you can't just set a GLOBAL FPS CAP as that would be far easier. Some say it adds to the lag? I guess you'd need to experiment.

 

[darkerm]

It sounds like people recommend setting individual game FPS caps with RIVATUNER and avoiding the GLOBAL FPS cap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg7I4GH5dhw

The goal is to have minimal LAG, no screen-tear, and no added stutter/judder so if any of that gets worse using Rivatuner don't use it for that game, or Google for another way.

For example:
1. Freesync ON
2. download and run Rivatuner (old but I guess it works fine): http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163
3. select Fallout 4
4. set 60FPS cap (for other games up to 67FPS)

I'm NOT an expert on this, and also don't quite understand why you can't just set a GLOBAL FPS CAP as that would be far easier. Some say it adds to the lag? I guess you'd need to experiment.

ok I got it and yes this is my monitor.
so now my question is. as for future which card will be more usefull? AMD rx 580 4gb or 8gb or 1060 6gb?
I'm sure I'll use the gpu at least 3year. which will be best for long run?

 

[photonboy]

RX-580 8GB is the best card for you (if you can afford it, otherwise the RX-580 4GB).

1) it works with FREESYNC (though you will need to understand how to best CAP etc to stay in the zone)
and

- FYI, some Freesync monitors work better if you drop below the low-end. For example, if it was a 30Hz to 75Hz monitor (must be 2.5x max/min ratio or higher) when you drop to 20FPS each frame gets sent twice so it becomes "40FPS" so you stay in the smooth, tear-free gaming mode.

Your monitor if you drop below 48FPS with Freesync on drops back into either VSYNC ON (added stutter, no screen tear) or VSYNC OFF (no added stutter, but screen-tear). I know AMD revamped how this works so I assume it's VSYNC OFF by default but if not that's what I'd choose, then again tweak to stay in the zone as I describe (or close as I can't test it).

2) FUTURE GAMES will increasingly favor the AMD architecture.

You can see that the SHIFT towards favoring its architecture started over the last year or so but it will accelerate as DX12/Vulkan is used more:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review-23.html

Don't bother reading it... also, the game CONSOLES use a nearly identical GCN architecture, and the PS5/XB? will likely use VEGA or similar which is very similar so GAME CODE WILL TEND TO OPTIMIZE TOWARDS GCN as time goes on.

It's been a slow process as the HD7970 five years ago had a similar GCN architecture but the software has taken this long to start to utilize it (again, DX12 and Vulkan is part, then CTM or Closer To Metal software etc.)