Best Graphics Cards For The Money: January 2012 (Archive)

[VincentP]

Why does http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html say that the GTX 590 has higher performance than GTX 660 but you guys state the reverse as true?

In the passmark chart GTX 660 has 4111, higher than the GTX 590 at 4111.
Notice too though that this is also below the GTX 580 at 4968.
Further up the chart again, the GTX 680 beats the GTX 690.
It looks like dual GPU cards to not fair as well in this specific benchmark.

 

[Centosan Centosanjr]

Why does http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html say that the GTX 590 has higher performance than GTX 660 but you guys state the reverse as true?

In the passmark chart GTX 660 has 4111, higher than the GTX 590 at 4111.
Notice too though that this is also below the GTX 580 at 4968.
Further up the chart again, the GTX 680 beats the GTX 690.
It looks like dual GPU cards to not fair as well in this specific benchmark.

So you agree with me in saying that GTX660 should be above the GTX590 ? Then why is the hierarchy chart http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html show 590 is topping 660?

 

[Sakkura]

Why does http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html say that the GTX 590 has higher performance than GTX 660 but you guys state the reverse as true?

It doesn't... you're the one getting it backwards.

That list gives the GTX 660 a rating of 4111, the GTX 590 only gets 4034.
This article puts the GTX 590 two tiers above the GTX 660.

And this just shows how inaccurate passmark is. The GTX 590 ranks below the 580 AND the 570 in their list, which is completely ridiculous. It's nearly twice as powerful as the 580, which also means it's a lot more powerful than the 660.

 

[Centosan Centosanjr]

How accurate is this hierarchy? Because I'm looking at the data from http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html and their benchmark is much more different than the one stated here. For example, in http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html, GTX590 is within 100 points difference of GTX660. Another example, GTX580 and GTX760 is also within 100 points difference.

 

[Sakkura]

How accurate is this hierarchy? Because I'm looking at the data from http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html and their benchmark is much more different than the one stated here. For example, in http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html, GTX590 is within 100 points difference of GTX660. Another example, GTX580 and GTX760 is also within 100 points difference.

That data is useless. They have the GTX 590 well behind the GTX 580 AND the GTX 570, which is ridiculous. The GTX 590 has two of the same GPUs as the 580, so obviously it should be much faster than the 580, let alone the 570. Just ignore anything that says Passmark, that's the lesson here.

 

[king smp]

I havent looked at Passmark in years
not only their GPU ratings but CPU ratings are also way off
Passmark is a very inaccurate rating site

 

[VincentP]

Why does http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html say that the GTX 590 has higher performance than GTX 660 but you guys state the reverse as true?

In the passmark chart GTX 660 has 4111, higher than the GTX 590 at 4111.
Notice too though that this is also below the GTX 580 at 4968.
Further up the chart again, the GTX 680 beats the GTX 690.
It looks like dual GPU cards to not fair as well in this specific benchmark.

So you agree with me in saying that GTX660 should be above the GTX590 ? Then why is the hierarchy chart http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html show 590 is topping 660?

No, the GP Mark chart does not accurately reflect the performance of dual GPU cards in games.
The GTX 590 is faster than the GTX 580 or GTX 660 in games.

 

[CookingMasterMan]

I WANT TO STOP FOLLOWING THIS! I DON'T WANT TO KNOW EVERY TIME SOMEONE COMMENTS ON THIS! HOW DO I DO THAT?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Go to the first post. Hit 'Stop tracking this thread'.

 

[CookingMasterMan]

Go to the first post. Hit 'Stop tracking this thread'.

THANKS!

 

[Centosan Centosanjr]

I havent looked at Passmark in years
not only their GPU ratings but CPU ratings are also way off
Passmark is a very inaccurate rating site

I bought my CPU based on their rating -.-. Can you show me a more accurate chart?

 

[Centosan Centosanjr]

How accurate is this hierarchy? Because I'm looking at the data from http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html and their benchmark is much more different than the one stated here. For example, in http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html, GTX590 is within 100 points difference of GTX660. Another example, GTX580 and GTX760 is also within 100 points difference.

That data is useless. They have the GTX 590 well behind the GTX 580 AND the GTX 570, which is ridiculous. The GTX 590 has two of the same GPUs as the 580, so obviously it should be much faster than the 580, let alone the 570. Just ignore anything that says Passmark, that's the lesson here.

I believe you because your name says gfx card master

 

[de5_Roy]

the cake is not a lie. believe me.

 

[sunandan]

hi i want to know abt the role of 7760g amd graphics tht is presenr in the hp n007tx laptop....

 

[aerial_ace]

Lol some of those high-end AMD cards basically have the "screw you Australia" price added on because of demand

 

[puppetMaster3]

What is the cheapest card that does 4k display port? I want to use for programming, not games.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Probably this 7750: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131461

Some motherboards with integrated graphics, too.

 

[shobuj66]

I am asking to include the HD 4400, HD 4600 and HD 5200 in the hierarchy chart. Though they have insignificant impact in game performance but they are not negligible. Without them the list is incomplete.

 

[shobuj66]

I am asking to include the HD 4400, HD 4600 and HD 5200 in the hierarchy chart. Though they have insignificant impact in game performance but they are not negligible. Without them the list is incomplete.

 

[Sakkura]

I am asking to include the HD 4400, HD 4600 and HD 5200 in the hierarchy chart. Though they have insignificant impact in game performance but they are not negligible. Without them the list is incomplete.

The problem is that those integrated GPUs are used in CPUs with different TDPs. Which means that performance can vary a lot.

For example, both the Core i3-4130 and the Core i3-4130T have HD Graphics 4400, but the 4130 has a TDP of 54W while the 4130T has a TDP of only 35W. That means the HD Graphics 4400 is much more likely to reduce its clock frequency to stay within the allowed TDP. Lower clocks = lower performance, thus HD Graphics 4400 isn't just HD Graphics 4400.

 

[shahrooz]

great as always

 

[Onus]

I am asking to include the HD 4400, HD 4600 and HD 5200 in the hierarchy chart. Though they have insignificant impact in game performance but they are not negligible. Without them the list is incomplete.

The problem is that those integrated GPUs are used in CPUs with different TDPs. Which means that performance can vary a lot.

For example, both the Core i3-4130 and the Core i3-4130T have HD Graphics 4400, but the 4130 has a TDP of 54W while the 4130T has a TDP of only 35W. That means the HD Graphics 4400 is much more likely to reduce its clock frequency to stay within the allowed TDP. Lower clocks = lower performance, thus HD Graphics 4400 isn't just HD Graphics 4400.

This is a valid point, but I think they should be tested on the higher TDP chips; i.e. their chart position represents the best that could be expected from them. After all, ALL GPUs will throttle under the right (wrong?) circumstances.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Yes, but on many they are actually clocked differently. It's better on Haswell than on Sandy/Ivy, though.

 

[Onus]

Please add the R7's to the chart. Thanks.
If possible, whenever a graphics card is reviewed, the author should automatically add the card to the chart.

 

[geofelt]

On the hierarchy chart, perhaps you could expand with an estimate of integrated graphics. Particularly of the stronger offerings such as HD4600 and amd apu.
A prospective buyer might want to know at which point a discrete graphics card would be significantly better.