Best mini itx motherboard for fx 9590?

[guymarshall]

What is the best mini itx am3+ motherboard that will accept the fx 9590? I will be using it with a h80iGT in a mini itx case (silverstone 12049 sugo case).

 

[Suztera]

None. You really want a decent 990FX motherboard with that cpu which typically is ATX sized.

Going Intel is the best option with mini-itx builds.

 

[spentshells]

None such board exists.

Avoid that cpu like the plague

 

[guymarshall]

None such board exists.

Avoid that cpu like the plague

I really like the extra cores for streaming and mantle is good. Amd is also cheaper than intel for the same performance. Yes the 8350 has much better price to performance, but the 9590 is still cheaper than most intel cpus.

 

[sizzling]

The 9590 is a shocking CPU and is not cheaper than Intel when you add up everything you need to run it.

The FX9xxx series need very good cooling like a AIO 240mm or greater. AMD recommend a minimum of 1000w PSU to ensure the 3v rail is strong enough yo support the ridiculous 220w CPU and then you need great case cooling as the VRM's on even the best 990 boards have a habbit of overheating causing instability. Then after all that a stock i7 with stock cooler a cheap mobo will out perform it.

Please take the advice here and avoid that cpu

 

[spentshells]

None such board exists.

Avoid that cpu like the plague

I really like the extra cores for streaming and mantle is good. Amd is also cheaper than intel for the same performance. Yes the 8350 has much better price to performance, but the 9590 is still cheaper than most intel cpus.

Guy, that simply hasn't been the case for many years, the performance gap between them is quite high. I've not actually seen the 9590 below 250 dollars. For that price you could get an i5 which will game better in nearly all situations.

For the same price you can get this....4690

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116989

Pair that with an nvidia card and a itx motherboard and you are streaming with a far quieter, faster and just plain old better. Nvidia Shadow play is a great option for game streaming.

 

[guymarshall]

The 9590 is a shocking CPU and is not cheaper than Intel when you add up everything you need to run it.

The FX9xxx series need very good cooling like a AIO 240mm or greater. AMD recommend a minimum of 1000w PSU to ensure the 3v rail is strong enough yo support the ridiculous 220w CPU and then you need great case cooling as the VRM's on even the best 990 boards have a habbit of overheating causing instability. Then after all that a stock i7 with stock cooler a cheap mobo will out perform it.

Please take the advice here and avoid that cpu

- i7s cannot be cooled with stock coolers, stock coolers are designed for normal use, not rendering or gaming.
- Good motherboards like asus viii motherboards are very good at temperature control
- Cheap motherboards cannot supply i7s with the right voltage without instabilities and overheating
- i7s are not cheap to run either, and they are so much more expensive for the same performance. i7s don't have 8 fast cores that are good for streaming, rendering and editing for less than £200, they have 4 slightly stronger cores for over £250!!! Not worth it, as games use more and more threads, AMD will win because of their 8-core fx series.

 

[guymarshall]

None such board exists.

Avoid that cpu like the plague

I really like the extra cores for streaming and mantle is good. Amd is also cheaper than intel for the same performance. Yes the 8350 has much better price to performance, but the 9590 is still cheaper than most intel cpus.

Guy, that simply hasn't been the case for many years, the performance gap between them is quite high. I've not actually seen the 9590 below 250 dollars. For that price you could get an i5 which will game better in nearly all situations.

For the same price you can get this....4690

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116989

Pair that with an nvidia card and a itx motherboard and you are streaming with a far quieter, faster and just plain old better. Nvidia Shadow play is a great option for game streaming.

- You can get an fx 9590 on amazon for £179
- i5s may win in games for now (by small margins) but in the future when games use more threads amd will be ahead of intel.
- The fx series have advantages over intel, if only 2 cores are used in gaming, the intel only has 2 left over for os and streaming etc, whereas the amd still has 6, which is more than the intel cpu started with!

 

[spentshells]

The 9590 is a shocking CPU and is not cheaper than Intel when you add up everything you need to run it.

The FX9xxx series need very good cooling like a AIO 240mm or greater. AMD recommend a minimum of 1000w PSU to ensure the 3v rail is strong enough yo support the ridiculous 220w CPU and then you need great case cooling as the VRM's on even the best 990 boards have a habbit of overheating causing instability. Then after all that a stock i7 with stock cooler a cheap mobo will out perform it.

Please take the advice here and avoid that cpu

- i7s cannot be cooled with stock coolers, stock coolers are designed for normal use, not rendering or gaming.
- Good motherboards like asus viii motherboards are very good at temperature control
- Cheap motherboards cannot supply i7s with the right voltage without instabilities and overheating
- i7s are not cheap to run either, and they are so much more expensive for the same performance. i7s don't have 8 fast cores that are good for streaming, rendering and editing for less than £200, they have 4 slightly stronger cores for over £250!!! Not worth it, as games use more and more threads, AMD will win because of their 8-core fx series.

Yes an i7 can be cooled with a stock cooler, saying that makes little sense. The case (if ITX) will need decent airflow.

 

[spentshells]

The 9590 is a shocking CPU and is not cheaper than Intel when you add up everything you need to run it.

The FX9xxx series need very good cooling like a AIO 240mm or greater. AMD recommend a minimum of 1000w PSU to ensure the 3v rail is strong enough yo support the ridiculous 220w CPU and then you need great case cooling as the VRM's on even the best 990 boards have a habbit of overheating causing instability. Then after all that a stock i7 with stock cooler a cheap mobo will out perform it.

Please take the advice here and avoid that cpu

- i7s cannot be cooled with stock coolers, stock coolers are designed for normal use, not rendering or gaming.
- Good motherboards like asus viii motherboards are very good at temperature control
- Cheap motherboards cannot supply i7s with the right voltage without instabilities and overheating
- i7s are not cheap to run either, and they are so much more expensive for the same performance. i7s don't have 8 fast cores that are good for streaming, rendering and editing for less than £200, they have 4 slightly stronger cores for over £250!!! Not worth it, as games use more and more threads, AMD will win because of their 8-core fx series.

I highly doubt an 9590 would beat my ivy bridge xeon at any task, I just don't see it happening.

Have a look for yourself.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1289?vs=551

Hey if you want the 9590 I say go ahead it's pretty darn fast, but don't plan on stuffing it into to an ITX case.

 

[junkeymonkey]

heres a example I got around here [for what its worth ??]]

LINUX RUN ----
Processor(s): Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670 CPU @ 3.40GHz
> Logical Cores: 4
> Physical Memory: 16,756,445,184 bytes ( 15.6 GiB )
> CPU Frequency: 3,398,990,144 Hz
> Program Version: 0.6.7 Build 9457 (Linux - x64 AVX2 ~ Airi)
> Constant: Pi
> Algorithm: Chudnovsky Formula
> Decimal Digits: 1,000,000,000
> Hexadecimal Digits: Disabled
> Threading Mode: 4 threads
> Computation Mode: Ram Only
> Working Memory: 4,859,459,952 bytes ( 4.52 GiB )
> Logical Disk Usage: 0 bytes ( 0 bytes )
> Start Date: Wed Feb 25 03:01:59 2015
> End Date: Wed Feb 25 03:05:01 2015
> Computation Time: 174.334 seconds
> Total Time: 182.220 seconds
> CPU Utilization: 385.460 %
> Multi-core Efficiency: 96.365 %

WINDOWS RUN ---

Processor(s): Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Logical Cores: 4
Physical Memory: 17,107,124,224 bytes ( 16.0 GiB )
CPU Frequency: 3,399,036,528 Hz

Program Version: 0.6.7 Build 9457 (Windows - x64 AVX2 ~ Airi)
Constant: Pi
Algorithm: Chudnovsky Formula
Decimal Digits: 1,000,000,000
Hexadecimal Digits: Disabled
Threading Mode: 4 threads
Computation Mode: Ram Only
Working Memory: 4,859,459,952 bytes ( 4.52 GiB )
Logical Disk Usage: 0 bytes ( 0 bytes )

Start Date: Sun Jul 26 22:02:58 2015
End Date: Sun Jul 26 22:06:05 2015

Computation Time: 169.315 seconds
Total Time: 186.057 seconds

CPU Utilization: 389.285 %
Multi-core Efficiency: 97.321 %



Processor(s): AMD FX(tm)-9590 Eight-Core Processor
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 16,720,162,816 bytes ( 15.5 GiB )
CPU Frequency: 4,715,679,744 Hz

Program Version: 0.6.8 Build 9461 (Linux - x64 XOP ~ Miyu)
Constant: Pi
Algorithm: Chudnovsky Formula
Decimal Digits: 1,000,000,000
Hexadecimal Digits: Disabled
Threading Mode: Thread Spawn (1 Thread/Task) -> ? / 8
Computation Mode: Ram Only
Working Memory: 5,092,016,776 bytes ( 4.74 GiB )
Logical Disk Usage: 0 bytes ( 0 bytes )

Start Date: Mon Aug 3 10:54:20 2015
End Date: Mon Aug 3 10:59:00 2015

Computation Time: 265.643 seconds
Total Time: 280.166 seconds

CPU Utilization: 737.512 %
Multi-core Efficiency: 92.189 %


i5 =100 sec. faster ?? and that's with the amd running 2133 memory and the intel with 1600

guess I lost the amd windows run but as you see os played no real factor from the intel runs [sorry]

 

[Zerk2012]

What is the best mini itx am3+ motherboard that will accept the fx 9590? I will be using it with a h80iGT in a mini itx case (silverstone 12049 sugo case).

Here is the list of all AM3+ mITX motherboards they are none.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#xcx=0&f=8&s=4,22
They don't make them.
If you wish to use a AMD processor is your decision but you will need to find a different case the will support a mATX motherboard.
Get the FX 8350 processor it is the same exact processor as the 9590 but with a lower clock speed and using a massive 100Watts less you can overclock it up to near the same speed as the 9590 without using the massive 225 Watts of power and use the H80i.
The H80i will not cool that 9590 processor.
Even the mATX case selection is very limited.

 

[junkeymonkey]

I hate to think power ripping through a mitx to run that 220w chip under load for any amount of time .. its not like the full atx boards with a full 8 phase or more like them to start [lol]

to me that 220w thing is just a novelty and then what was amd thinking ??

a nice intel mitx with a mid range xeon like a 1230/1241v3 will do all you ask in spades at I think 80w and blow any amds fx away with ease

[you get what you pay for ]

http://ark.intel.com/compare/80909,80807,75054,75047,75122


just to add you think now the fx line is getting near 5 or 6 years old ?? why buy the past today

to me its hard to spend good money on that aged tech. for todays use ??

I like todays stuff fro todays needs not 5 years ago

 

[guymarshall]

What is the best mini itx am3+ motherboard that will accept the fx 9590? I will be using it with a h80iGT in a mini itx case (silverstone 12049 sugo case).

Here is the list of all AM3+ mITX motherboards they are none.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#xcx=0&f=8&s=4,22
They don't make them.
If you wish to use a AMD processor is your decision but you will need to find a different case the will support a mATX motherboard.
Get the FX 8350 processor it is the same exact processor as the 9590 but with a lower clock speed and using a massive 100Watts less you can overclock it up to near the same speed as the 9590 without using the massive 225 Watts of power and use the H80i.
The H80i will not cool that 9590 processor.
Even the mATX case selection is very limited.

The fx 8350 at 5ghz will produce much more heat than the 9590 at 5 ghz! The 9590 has a cherrypicked die that has reduced heat output to get to 5ghz easily, so it will produce less heat than the 8350. The 220w tdp is only reached if it is continuously run at 5ghz for hours! And even then the 8350 will produce more heat and break more quickly at that clock speed.

 

[junkeymonkey]

thing is it can be trying to keep any fx chip under 65c and cooling can become a issue they can start to throttle at 62c guys with water can still see temp issues with them

if you do choose these fx chips you better choose the cooler wisely and skim through all these type threads on it

and just to let you know there only a hand full of board built for the 220w chips some like asus claim to but were not designed to

example

'' Supports CPU up to 140 W'' in the specs?? but cpu list shows '' a 220w chips supported ???

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH_990FX_R20/specifications/
cpu list
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH_990FX_R20/HelpDesk_CPU/

so what is it ?? a 140w board your going to try to run a 220w chip on ??? come on , really ??? LOL

thing is your still buying a 6 year old platform today and with all the heat issues you can search here at tom on that there age maybe starting to catch up with them running todays programs ???

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/all.html?refine=9590+hot


not many recommend them anymore anyway or like me try to talk you out of it

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

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ASRock 990FX Extreme9
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Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 R4.0\5.0
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[junkeymonkey]

Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ????

''Supports CPU up to 140 W''

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_V_FORMULAZ/specifications/

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_V_FORMULAZ/HelpDesk_CPU/


goes back to what I said about asus above lol.... shows a 140w supported board but show a 220w chip supported ??? lol what do I trust there with seeing that ???

asus aint nothing of what it use to be now a days more hype then quality

and things like that is why theres so many of these too hot -throttling and all type threads on these chips /platform

thing is was the board truly designed for thr 220w chips or are they 140w boards that got a quick bios update to do so [ and heres where the issue can '' lie '' ]

whats bad is how amd admitted it was a mistake

''What has hurt AMD is a big bet on a Bulldozer architecture — in which two CPU integer cores share a floating-point unit and other components — that simply didn’t work out. “Everyone knows that Bulldozer was not the game-changing part when it was introduced three years ago,” then-CEO Rory Read said at a Deutsche Bank event. “We have to live with that for four years ''

yup, AM3+ is what drove me to intel . and did it fast

 

[guymarshall]

Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ????

''Supports CPU up to 140 W''

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_V_FORMULAZ/specifications/

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_V_FORMULAZ/HelpDesk_CPU/


goes back to what I said about asus above lol.... shows a 140w supported board but show a 220w chip supported ??? lol what do I trust there with seeing that ???

asus aint nothing of what it use to be now a days more hype then quality

and things like that is why theres so many of these too hot -throttling and all type threads on these chips /platform

thing is was the board truly designed for thr 220w chips or are they 140w boards that got a quick bios update to do so [ and heres where the issue can '' lie '' ]

whats bad is how amd admitted it was a mistake

''What has hurt AMD is a big bet on a Bulldozer architecture — in which two CPU integer cores share a floating-point unit and other components — that simply didn’t work out. “Everyone knows that Bulldozer was not the game-changing part when it was introduced three years ago,” then-CEO Rory Read said at a Deutsche Bank event. “We have to live with that for four years ''

yup, AM3+ is what drove me to intel . and did it fast

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Zerk2012]

What is the best mini itx am3+ motherboard that will accept the fx 9590? I will be using it with a h80iGT in a mini itx case (silverstone 12049 sugo case).

Here is the list of all AM3+ mITX motherboards they are none.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#xcx=0&f=8&s=4,22
They don't make them.
If you wish to use a AMD processor is your decision but you will need to find a different case the will support a mATX motherboard.
Get the FX 8350 processor it is the same exact processor as the 9590 but with a lower clock speed and using a massive 100Watts less you can overclock it up to near the same speed as the 9590 without using the massive 225 Watts of power and use the H80i.
The H80i will not cool that 9590 processor.
Even the mATX case selection is very limited.

The fx 8350 at 5ghz will produce much more heat than the 9590 at 5 ghz! The 9590 has a cherrypicked die that has reduced heat output to get to 5ghz easily, so it will produce less heat than the 8350. The 220w tdp is only reached if it is continuously run at 5ghz for hours! And even then the 8350 will produce more heat and break more quickly at that clock speed.

Most of this made me LOL especially the part where it will only draw that much power if it's ran at that speed for like 5 hours. Really??? So it starts out only needing 140 watts to run that speed stable then later it needs 220 Watts to maintain it????
A cherry picked die to reduce heat is fairly retarded it's the same exact chip design and the only factor in generating heat is the watts that is used.
You need to take a few courses in basic electronics.

 

[junkeymonkey]

in the end '' you buy - you try- and hope it don't have you back here to cry'''

 

[guymarshall]

What is the best mini itx am3+ motherboard that will accept the fx 9590? I will be using it with a h80iGT in a mini itx case (silverstone 12049 sugo case).

Here is the list of all AM3+ mITX motherboards they are none.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#xcx=0&f=8&s=4,22
They don't make them.
If you wish to use a AMD processor is your decision but you will need to find a different case the will support a mATX motherboard.
Get the FX 8350 processor it is the same exact processor as the 9590 but with a lower clock speed and using a massive 100Watts less you can overclock it up to near the same speed as the 9590 without using the massive 225 Watts of power and use the H80i.
The H80i will not cool that 9590 processor.
Even the mATX case selection is very limited.

The fx 8350 at 5ghz will produce much more heat than the 9590 at 5 ghz! The 9590 has a cherrypicked die that has reduced heat output to get to 5ghz easily, so it will produce less heat than the 8350. The 220w tdp is only reached if it is continuously run at 5ghz for hours! And even then the 8350 will produce more heat and break more quickly at that clock speed.

Most of this made me LOL especially the part where it will only draw that much power if it's ran at that speed for like 5 hours. Really??? So it starts out only needing 140 watts to run that speed stable then later it needs 220 Watts to maintain it????
A cherry picked die to reduce heat is fairly retarded it's the same exact chip design and the only factor in generating heat is the watts that is used.
You need to take a few courses in basic electronics.

What I meant is the 180+ watts is only a problem if used for hours on end! If it is outputting 180 watts for 5 seconds it won't do anything.
A better designed chip means higher clock speeds at slightly lower heat output and power usage, so it is definitely not retarded! I don't need to take courses in elecrtronics as I haven't even done my a-levels yet, dyslexia changes what I say sometimes, I just have to accept it.

 

[Zerk2012]

What is the best mini itx am3+ motherboard that will accept the fx 9590? I will be using it with a h80iGT in a mini itx case (silverstone 12049 sugo case).

Here is the list of all AM3+ mITX motherboards they are none.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#xcx=0&f=8&s=4,22
They don't make them.
If you wish to use a AMD processor is your decision but you will need to find a different case the will support a mATX motherboard.
Get the FX 8350 processor it is the same exact processor as the 9590 but with a lower clock speed and using a massive 100Watts less you can overclock it up to near the same speed as the 9590 without using the massive 225 Watts of power and use the H80i.
The H80i will not cool that 9590 processor.
Even the mATX case selection is very limited.

The fx 8350 at 5ghz will produce much more heat than the 9590 at 5 ghz! The 9590 has a cherrypicked die that has reduced heat output to get to 5ghz easily, so it will produce less heat than the 8350. The 220w tdp is only reached if it is continuously run at 5ghz for hours! And even then the 8350 will produce more heat and break more quickly at that clock speed.

Most of this made me LOL especially the part where it will only draw that much power if it's ran at that speed for like 5 hours. Really??? So it starts out only needing 140 watts to run that speed stable then later it needs 220 Watts to maintain it????
A cherry picked die to reduce heat is fairly retarded it's the same exact chip design and the only factor in generating heat is the watts that is used.
You need to take a few courses in basic electronics.

What I meant is the 180+ watts is only a problem if used for hours on end! If it is outputting 180 watts for 5 seconds it won't do anything.
A better designed chip means higher clock speeds at slightly lower heat output and power usage, so it is definitely not retarded! I don't need to take courses in elecrtronics as I haven't even done my a-levels yet, dyslexia changes what I say sometimes, I just have to accept it.

It's not a better design it's the same exact design.
FX 9590 5.0 @ 1.464 volts
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/62166-amd-fx-9590-review-piledriver-5ghz.html
FX 8350 4.9 @ 1.476 volts
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-fx-8350-piledriver-cpu-review/
Very little difference just a bit better bin.

 

[Zerk2012]

in the end '' you buy - you try- and hope it don't have you back here to cry'''

He cant buy it their no mITX board to support it.

 

[junkeymonkey]

''A better designed chip means higher clock speeds at slightly lower heat output and power usage, '''

well a intel chip like this 4670 non k [210$$] I can get it up to 70c good stress test -[ 50-60c normal everyday use loaded] with out throttling or anything and its a 84w chip you got that 9590 [ 229$$] 220w overclocked and you better keep it below 65c

then you see above the intel can do that pi run 100 seconds faster with slower memory
then you think the amd is so called 8 core multi threading the i5 is 4 core no hyper/multi threading where is that paying off ?? I bet a 80w xeon 1230 would smoke the amd chip as well with hyper threading stock

they say amd is ''good enough'' ?? for what office use ? gaming ?? [seeing how the vid card does most all the work anyhow and then do I want the 100sec slower chip helping that out ???

and you want that mitx build ? intel seems to have that well covered I just cant see amd as a primary rig anymore as of today

anyway
good luck