Question Best value CPU right now?

[Magesium]

Hello,

I have a ASRock Taichi x570 mainboard lying around and want to build a PC with it.

What is the best value CPU I can buy at this moment?

Thanks in advance!

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[jnjnilson6]

Hello,

I have a ASRock Taichi x570 mainboard lying around and want to build a PC with it.

What is the best value CPU I can buy at this moment?

Thanks in advance!

ASRock X570 Taichi

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen™ 2000, 3000, 4000 G-Series, 5000 and 5000 G-Series Desktop Processors; Intel Wi-Fi 6 802.11ax (2.4Gbps) + BT 5.2; Supports DDR4 4666+ (OC); 3 PCIe 4.0 x16, 2 PCIe 4.0 x1; NVIDIA NVLink™, Quad SLI™, AMD 3-Way CrossFireX™; 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC1220 Audio...

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Hello!

What budget have you? And what are your expectations in terms of performance? Wherefrom will you be acquiring the new CPU?

Thank you!

 

[thestryker]

What you're planning on doing with this PC is pretty important. If you've got the budget for it the 5800X3D is going to match or beat most of the similarly priced current gen CPUs at gaming. For multithreaded workloads the 5900X seems to be a fair bit better priced (at least in the US) than the 5950X. As far as overall best value you'd probably be looking at the 5600 non X CPU.

 

[jnjnilson6]

What you're planning on doing with this PC is pretty important. If you've got the budget for it the 5800X3D is going to match or beat most of the similarly priced current gen CPUs at gaming. For multithreaded workloads the 5900X seems to be a fair bit better priced (at least in the US) than the 5950X. As far as overall best value you'd probably be looking at the 5600 non X CPU.

What you've mentioned above is very true.

The 5500 non-X would, perhaps, prove one of the best CPUs price / performance to have come on the market in a long long time. Surely, it is not of the highest enthusiast performance, but narrowing down our scope to the pure state marked as 'price / performance,' it would be the golden standard, second to none, and imperviously threading along through the brightest numerals of the aforementioned (price / productivity).

It would, undoubtedly, continue on to provide brisk performance and a good stability through quite some years in time and keeping in mind its price it would be very benefactory to obtain, cardinally in view of the fact that there aren't any drawbacks in sight in regards to the aforesaid resolution of pricing, unparallel to the inclusive higher performance. The question of pricing is one to appear recurringly through all the escapades of the system builder in all times.

 

[Magesium]

Hello!

Hi! ^^

What budget have you?

I don't want to spend much but I don't want to but random junk on this nice motherboard. So I am looking for the best sweetspot price/performance.

And what are your expectations in terms of performance?

None, I just don't like seeing the motherboard unused.

Wherefrom will you be acquiring the new CPU?

Germany

Thank you!

No thanks to you!

What you're planning on doing with this PC is pretty important.

Daily tasks, internet/streaming, if I do any gaming it is most likely going to be emulation.

If you've got the budget for it the 5800X3D is going to match or beat most of the similarly priced current gen CPUs at gaming. For multithreaded workloads the 5900X seems to be a fair bit better priced (at least in the US) than the 5950X. As far as overall best value you'd probably be looking at the 5600 non X CPU.

Nice, I will check my local dealer for those models. Thanks!

What you've mentioned above is very true.

The 5500 non-X would, perhaps, prove one of the best CPUs price / performance to have come on the market in a long long time. Surely, it is not of the highest enthusiast performance, but narrowing down our scope to the pure state marked as 'price / performance,' it would be the golden standard, second to none, and imperviously threading along through the brightest numerals of the aforementioned (price / productivity).

Okay, I'm going to check this one as well. I don't care so much about having the strongest CPU, but on the other hand I don't like the idea of getting a CPU that is very underpowered compared to the motherboard.

It would, undoubtedly, continue on to provide brisk performance and a good stability through quite some years in time and keeping in mind its price it would be very benefactory to obtain, cardinally in view of the fact that there aren't any drawbacks in sight in regards to the aforesaid resolution of pricing, unparallel to the inclusive higher performance. The question of pricing is one to appear recurringly through all the escapades of the system builder in all times.

Okay, that is good to know. Thank you very much!

 

[thestryker]

What you've mentioned above is very true.

The 5500 non-X would, perhaps, prove one of the best CPUs price / performance to have come on the market in a long long time. Surely, it is not of the highest enthusiast performance, but narrowing down our scope to the pure state marked as 'price / performance,' it would be the golden standard, second to none, and imperviously threading along through the brightest numerals of the aforementioned (price / productivity).

It would, undoubtedly, continue on to provide brisk performance and a good stability through quite some years in time and keeping in mind its price it would be very benefactory to obtain, cardinally in view of the fact that there aren't any drawbacks in sight in regards to the aforesaid resolution of pricing, unparallel to the inclusive higher performance. The question of pricing is one to appear recurringly through all the escapades of the system builder in all times.

The reason I didn't suggest the 5500 is that it's a salvaged APU so it's much slower than the 5600 and has limited connectivity. While performance might not be too bad with it I think the disadvantages outweigh the better pricing.

 

[punkncat]

Based upon the reply above, I would suggest the 5600, maybe the X version, based on sale prices in your market. Here in the states it is typically going a bit under $150 right now. The R7 variant would likely prove to be a bit more future proof due to threads, even for just workloads and goofing off.

If you aren't using a graphics card you will need to consider the G skew Ryzen CPU.

 

[Magesium]

Based upon the reply above, I would suggest the 5600, maybe the X version, based on sale prices in your market. Here in the states it is typically going a bit under $150 right now. The R7 variant would likely prove to be a bit more future proof due to threads, even for just workloads and goofing off.

If you aren't using a graphics card you will need to consider the G skew Ryzen CPU.

Excuse me for asking very basic questions.

The 'G skew' Ryzen CPUs are the ones with a G after the number (such as 5600G)?

There is no Ryzen 7 variant of the 5600 as far as I can see so do you mean something like the 5800X3D?

 

[thestryker]

The 'G skew' Ryzen CPUs are the ones with a G after the number (such as 5600G)?

Yup, but keep in mind these are APUs so they'll be less performant than their X and non-X counterparts and use PCIe 3.0 connectivity.

There is no Ryzen 7 variant of the 5600 as far as I can see so do you mean something like the 5800X3D?

The R7 encompasses the 5700X/5800X/5800X3D

 

[punkncat]

There is also a 5700G

 

[jnjnilson6]

Excuse me for asking very basic questions.

The 'G skew' Ryzen CPUs are the ones with a G after the number (such as 5600G)?

There is no Ryzen 7 variant of the 5600 as far as I can see so do you mean something like the 5800X3D?

The difference between the 5600 and 5500:

And do keep in mind the 5500 is quite a lot cheaper.

 

[Magesium]

Thank you very much!

I'm not sure if I'd be willing to go for a 5800X3D yet. If not Im going to take a closer look at the 5500 and 5600.

Maybe I should open a new thread for this, but I am going to ask here for now:

GPU are quite expensive right now, if I am correct? Is it advisable to use a GPU I have lying around here for now and upgrade later? How to find a good GPU deal if I am willing to wait?

 

[thestryker]

Generally speaking it's a bad time to buy a GPU right now unless you can find a good deal on a lower end part. I have an RTX 2060 and GTX 970 as my backup cards and would use either of them before buying something new at current prices. If you're willing to look at used you might be able to find a decent deal as well. I do think as long as you have a card that is still getting driver updates it's worth waiting and seeing what happens as the year goes on.

Right now the Intel Arc A750/A770 can periodically be found for decent sale prices, but their compatibility with older titles is likely to remain shaky. The AMD 6600/6650XT have had some very good sales, but I haven't seen any lately likely due to dwindling stock. The RTX 2060 if there's availability has had some good sales, but much like the 1660ti/s stock seems to be disappearing again. I haven't seen any good deals on the RTX 3050/3060, but there may be some if NV/AMD/Intel release some very good low cost cards.

 

[jnjnilson6]

Thank you very much!

I'm not sure if I'd be willing to go for a 5800X3D yet. If not Im going to take a closer look at the 5500 and 5600.

Maybe I should open a new thread for this, but I am going to ask here for now:

GPU are quite expensive right now, if I am correct? Is it advisable to use a GPU I have lying around here for now and upgrade later? How to find a good GPU deal if I am willing to wait?

You could wait a little bit for the augmentation of the RX 7000 series to become available. You should be looking into RX 7600, RX 7600 XT, RX 7700 and RX 7700 XT as the sweet price / performance spot.

Their prices should not be exorbitant, they ought to perform very well, and would definitely be a good match with the Ryzen 5500 which would last nicely between 4 and 5 years into the future.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

There is also a 5700G

If you need integrated graphics sure. If you don't then the 5700X is the best value CPU for AM4 IMO.

 

[jnjnilson6]

If you need integrated graphics sure. If you don't then the 5700X is the best value CPU for AM4 IMO.

The 5700X is a more powerful and a very good CPU, but:

Ryzen 5500 - $88.14

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-5500-12-Thread-Unlocked-Processor/dp/B09VCJ171S/

Ryzen 5700X - $191.99
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-5700X-16-Thread-Unlocked-Processor/dp/B09VCHQHZ6/

We're talking about a x2.18 price difference for a x1.30 increase in performance.
So I do believe that the 5500 is one of the best CPUs price / performance to have come out in more than the past decade, and if we exclude the marginal performance increase and solely concentrate upon 'price / performance,' there is no other CPU to currently match it.

However, you're very right advising the OP about the 5700X because it is indeed faster than the 5500 and despite not being on the same level in terms of price to performance ratio, it would ultimately prove a very worthwhile and productive component.

 

[Deleted member 2947362]

The R5 5500 has 16mb L3 cache and PCIe 3 the R5 5600 has 32mb L3 cache and PCIe 4 from looking at benchmarks the 5500 was a fair bit the worse than the 5600 when you add a dedicated GPU.

Sometimes the R5 5500 was a fair way down the list even though it was tested with the same dedicated GPU used in the R5 5600 (none x) to me 5500 just to gimped hardware wise like with L3 cache and PCIe 3.

If had that motherboard in my system and was opting for 6 core CPU I wouldn't use anything less than a R5 5600 the price difference wont break the bank between them and I would rather have the extra performance or if you opt for a 8 core cpu I would use the R7 5700 if trying to keep budget with in nice price for what you get.

But if your just going to use the system play emulated games the R5 5500 is Over powered for that task and best price performance bar none

In reality though, if you don't plan on adding a half decent GPU to the system just get the R5 5500 but if you think you may add a half decent GPU later get the R5 5600 or R7 5700.

 

[Magesium]

Thanks for all the answers. Im going to look at all those CPUs in detail. Perhaps I'll be going for 5800X3D if I feel its worth the investment for me.

I have one HDMI output on my motherboard, does this mean, that I can only connect one display when going for a G model CPU? How powerful is this integrated graphics anyway compared to a very low budget CPU?

EDIT:
I found the 5600G begin cheaper than the regular 5600? Is the 5600G less powerful?

 

[Deleted member 2947362]

It's limited by 16mb L3 cache and PCIe 3 compared to the 5 5600 non g

but If you only intend on using it for emulation games I would of thought the 5600G would fit most your needs, not 100% sure what the built in GPU is like?

But should be enough to run most emulators, the GPU might struggle on more demanding ones though?
I donk know enough about emulators or how good the built in GPU is to run more demanding game emulators.
you would have ask advise from someone who knows more about those subjects if that's the type of CPU decide to buy.

although by all means if it is cheap and does what you need it to do why spend more if you don't need to?
You can still add a PCIe graphic's card at a later date if needed, the L3 16mb cache will hurt performance but it's not like it wont be able to play game at a good FPS.

Also if you do buy the 5600G get a good CPU cooler for it, don't use the one that comes with it unless you really have no other choice but I would say the same for all the CPU's that come with cooler in the box.

oh and one other thing to get the best out of the built in GPU make sure you get the the max rated DDR4 3200 as a minimum speed for ram

run the ram in dual channel so a 2x kit of ram or x4 kit
the amount of gigs will depend on your needs but I'd use 16gig min

you can run faster ram to get better performance from the built in GPU if you don't mind the faster ram over clocking the CPU's memory controller but be aware that may void your warranty on the CPU.

 

[thestryker]

I have one HDMI output on my motherboard, does this mean, that I can only connect one display when going for a G model CPU? How powerful is this integrated graphics anyway compared to a very low budget CPU?

Yes it only works with the G SKUs.

The integrated graphics in these is worse than a GT 1030. It's not terrible if you just need something to get by, but it doesn't take much to beat it. It's also going to be memory bandwidth sensitive.

EDIT:
I found the 5600G begin cheaper than the regular 5600? Is the 5600G less powerful?

Yes it performs worse and is stuck with PCIe 3.0 connectivity. I'd suggest reading through the Tom's review of the 5600/5500 as it has many of the lower cost CPUs in it: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-5600-and-ryzen-5-5500-review/3

 

[Avro Arrow]

Well, it depends on what you want to use it for.

Best value for gaming: R5-5600
Best gaming CPU: R7-5800X3D
Best value for productivity: R7-5700X
Best productivity CPU: R9-5950X

 

[ohio_buckeye]

value cb pu I’ve got a 5500 and it’s not bad. I’d go 5500, 5600/5600x or 5700g/5700x for best bang for bucks.

 

[Magesium]

Okay, unless I see a deal I'm going to get a 5600.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Okay, unless I see a deal I'm going to get a 5600.

That would be a good choice if you have an AM4 platform already. If you don't, I would recommend an R5-7600 so that you're not wasting money on an AM4 motherboard that you won't be able to upgrade in future. An AM5 motherboard would be viable for many years (and CPU upgrades) to come.

 

[Magesium]

That would be a good choice if you have an AM4 platform already. If you don't, I would recommend an R5-7600 so that you're not wasting money on an AM4 motherboard that you won't be able to upgrade in future. An AM5 motherboard would be viable for many years (and CPU upgrades) to come.

I have a AS Rock x570 Taichi already. Should I consider the 7600?