Best way to Image PC (snapshot)

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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:34:46 GMT, Notan <notan@ddress.com> wrote:

>I purchased the previous version, 30 or 40 days before the latest
>version was released. My inquiry was to find out if I was eligible
>for a free upgrade.

I ask again: Did you look at their web site? Why wait for email if
you can simply download the upgrade?

>As far as the language barrier goes, if you're going to sell a
>program in a non-native language, you're obligated to provide
>support in that same non-native language.

I don't disagree with you, and have in fact corresponded with Acronis
without problems.
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Paul Knudsen wrote:
>
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:34:46 GMT, Notan <notan@ddress.com> wrote:
>
> >I purchased the previous version, 30 or 40 days before the latest
> >version was released. My inquiry was to find out if I was eligible
> >for a free upgrade.
>
> I ask again: Did you look at their web site? Why wait for email if
> you can simply download the upgrade?
>
> >As far as the language barrier goes, if you're going to sell a
> >program in a non-native language, you're obligated to provide
> >support in that same non-native language.
>
> I don't disagree with you, and have in fact corresponded with Acronis
> without problems.

I was looking to upgrade to v8.0, from v7.0.

A few days ago, I finally got an answer from them:

"With regards to your question, our upgrade policy is to provide free
upgrades to (a) customers who purchased the software 30 days prior to the
release of a new version, and/or (b) customers who have purchased software
maintenance or a site license that includes software maintenance. We realize
that the 30 day cut-off appears to be arbitrary, but it is keeping with the
procedures of other established software companies. If we had a 90 day
cut-off, somebody who purchased the product 91 days before hand who would
ask us to upgrade or that s/he would not have bought the product had they
known to wait just one more day. At some point we have to draw a line and
move on to working on the next version."

Notan

 

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On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 15:48:08 -0500, Kevin Fosler
<KevinKFosler@aol.com> wrote:

I've never done an image but this thread is making me think I should.

I have a 120GB drive.

Can the image be backed up to cd-r's? How many would it usually take.

Also when making an image can certain data folders (taking up much
space) be eliminated from the image?

TIA

 

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120GB would require about 180 CDs if the drive is full.

Usually an image is done as soon as the machine is built, prior to adding
any data.

Tom
"OP66" <nospam@fake.yes> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 15:48:08 -0500, Kevin Fosler
> <KevinKFosler@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I've never done an image but this thread is making me think I should.
>
> I have a 120GB drive.
>
> Can the image be backed up to cd-r's? How many would it usually take.
>
> Also when making an image can certain data folders (taking up much
> space) be eliminated from the image?
>
> TIA
>

 

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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:19:17 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net>
wrote:

>120GB would require about 180 CDs if the drive is full.
>
>Usually an image is done as soon as the machine is built, prior to adding
>any data.

Like OP66 I, too, got to thinking I should image my system, but I
don't think I'll be wanting to burn 90 CDs (my 120GB c: drive is only
about half full).

My machine is an XPS gen2. The mobo is set up for 2 SATA drives and 4
IDE devices. It came with a 120gb SATA c: drive, and I have added a
120gb ATA-133 and an old 60gb ATA-? from my previous system.

If I were to make an image of my SATA c: drive, would I need to
purchase a second SATA drive for this? I assume I could create the
image on my 120gb ATA drive, but I don't think I can make that be the
c: drive--or can I?

If I remove my current SATA (c drive, can I adjust the BIOS to
recognize an ATA drive as c: ?

--John "more confused than usual" Wells

 

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"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> 120GB would require about 180 CDs if the drive is full.
>
> Usually an image is done as soon as the machine is built, prior to adding
> any data.

Or done as a regular backup like Acronis TrueImage to a compressed image
file on the same sized or larger removable HD.

 

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"John W. Wells" <djinn@7Tsimmery.axe> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:19:17 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net>
> wrote:
>
> >120GB would require about 180 CDs if the drive is full.
> >
> >Usually an image is done as soon as the machine is built, prior to adding
> >any data.
>
> Like OP66 I, too, got to thinking I should image my system, but I
> don't think I'll be wanting to burn 90 CDs (my 120GB c: drive is only
> about half full).
>
> My machine is an XPS gen2. The mobo is set up for 2 SATA drives and 4
> IDE devices. It came with a 120gb SATA c: drive, and I have added a
> 120gb ATA-133 and an old 60gb ATA-? from my previous system.
>
> If I were to make an image of my SATA c: drive, would I need to
> purchase a second SATA drive for this?

It wouldn't have to be SATA unless that's the only mobo slot unused.
External USB2 or Firewire is an alternative. I like big SATA drives in
shock mounted removable trays like the KingWin KF-83 (~$30) for image
backup.

> I assume I could create the
> image on my 120gb ATA drive, but I don't think I can make that be the
> c: drive--or can I?

Rephrase?

> If I remove my current SATA (c drive, can I adjust the BIOS to
> recognize an ATA drive as c: ?

Usually yes.

The backup HD would be setup such that it would get a higher drive letter
and you boot from the regular HD or a floppy/CD and do the image. I like
Acronis TrueImage as it can make the image running from XP or W2K3 or W2K.
Just run it anytime you want.

 

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OP66 <nospam@fake.yes> wrote:
>I have a 120GB drive.
>
>Can the image be backed up to cd-r's? How many would it usually take.

Ghost will get you about 2:1 compression, so if the drive is full
you'd need something on the order of 86 disks. Not really practical.

>Also when making an image can certain data folders (taking up much
>space) be eliminated from the image?

Yes, but then it wouldn't be an image.

I tend to back up drives to either another equivalent drive (mirror,
for immediate replacement on failure), or to a large network volume
(image file, for rebuilding at need).

Note that a drive and it's mirror image should not be online at the
same time, or Windows will get all confused. Reboot, make the image,
power off, and remove the image drive. hard drive racks
areinexpensive, and this also gives you the ability to have offsite
backups.