OnePersonBandStudio :
Mr. B writes:
A balanced dual Xeon configuration with very high performance (2X E5-2687W, 64Gb RAM, Quadro K5000, and etc) would require the next BestConfigs to have a super-workstation category with an $8,000 budget.
Any idea what a config might look like for a Maya/Zbrush/CS6 film-making CPU/GPU rendering, particle simulation machine for a one-person-band film studio? Am looking at fast dual Xeons (E5-2670's or E5-2690's), Quadro K5000, 64gigs ECC RAM, (perhaps Maximus) in the $8k range. What acceleration technologies does Maya, AE6, and PP6 need? The idea is maximum creativity, rendering turnaround in this price-range.
OnePersonBandStudio,
To optimize a system for the applications you mention suggests a system with very high performance in all the subsystems > CPU, Memory, GPU, and disk. This is because the applications today are all over the map- and changing in terms of multi-threading, CUDA and OpenCL, OpenGL acceleration as well as becoming larger and increasingly resource hungry. Adobe CS Premiere Pro is becoming multi-theaded and OpenCL.
In general then, such a system having many cores for rendering, ECC RAM for error-correcting for lack of artifacts in both rendering and particle simulation- and by particle I don't mean only the bits they sweep off the floor at CERN , but including smoke, transparency, and reflections, because of precision at which these particles must be placed to make motion appear natural and without jumps and stuttering. A CPU clock speed as is practicable is desirable for effects processing on both sound and video as the processing of effects like reverb and room ambiance is an extremely complex algorithm of progressive waveform smoothing and repetition at varying frequencies and amplitudes. The GPU should have a high bandwidth and lots of memory and if it's Adobe CS and /or Autodesk, CUDA OpenGL, and Open CL capable. The more CUDA cores the better and it possible to see the positive effects on CPU performance benchmarks of CUDA co-processing when a high end GPU like a Quadro 6000 or K5000 is added.
As for choosing components, this is a complicated equation, but with your budget, very high performance is possible.
CPU> With CPU's there is a decrease in speed proportional to the increase in core count. A quad core E5-1620 will run on the first core at 3.8GHz and on all four cores at 3.6, so in single-threaded applications- which is most of Autodesk, Adobe, and Dessault, that $350 CPU will perform as well as a single E5-2687W that will run on it's first core at 3.8 and has the same memory bandwidth and cache per core as the E5-1620, except costing $2,000/ However, with rendering , as many cores as available may be employed so the dual E5-2687W's 16 cores / 32 threads become welcome if not necessary from a business perspective. Dual CPU's also offer much more memory and PCIe slots. I use a dual quad-core system at 3.16GHz and even simple, single renderings are far too time consuming. So, my vote would be for a dual E5-2687W.
Motherboard > I am increasingly fond of the Intel C602. There are a variety of likely boards and the choice is important as not all workstation dual CPU boards support 150W CPU's, though I've seen reports of many systems successfully using boards rated up to 135W. Still, there are a variety of motherboard possibilities and the choice would depend on the chipset and slots preferred.
Memory > As mentioned, ECC at the highest supported speed, currently 1600. The upcoming 12-core E5-2697 2.7 / 3.5GHz, about $3,200) will use 1866. My inclination, since the RAM is divided between the CPU's is to consider 128GB.
GPU > I am of two minds on this one, especially as I've not directly used either of my favorites and am relying on benchmarks and anecdotes. As you may know, workstation application -and as far as I know, Adobe, Dessault, and Autodesk don't support multiple GPU's, so having the highest bandwidth and most memory in a single GPU is desirable. And in this, I am divided between The Quadro K5000 and the Quadro 6000. The Quadro 6000 is 384-bit to the K5000's 256-bit and has 6GB memory and a 144GB's bandwidth while the K5000 has higher clock speeds, 1536 CUDA cores to the 6000's 448, and a bandwidth of 177. The 6000, 6GB is the successor to the FX 5800 which was 4GB and 512-bit and considered the video editing line at the time. My inclination is somewhat inclined towards the 6000, but then the K5000 is significantly less expensive and has all those CUDA cores,... I'm having a similar debate at the moment, one market notch down, which is whether to change from a Quadro FX 4800 (384-bit, 1.5GB) to a Quadro 5000 or K4000. The 5000 is 320-bit, 352 CUDA, 2.5GB and the K4000 is 192-bit. 768 CUDA. Interestingly, the Quadro 5000 in the right system has much higher 3D benchmarks and I keep returning to the 384-bit idea. In the consumer / gaming GeForce line, the GTX 580 (3GB) is supposed to be an excellent video editing, a graphics card "sleeper" better than a GTX 680- and the 580 is 384-bit to the 680's 256.
Drives > A PCIe RAID controller running an SSD for OS and application and a RAID 1+0 for performance- loading, transfer, backup.
Follows is a modification of a system I worked out for someone in the particle physics world and with several options >
BambiBoom PixelCannon Simucadarenderanimatica Supermodeler iWork OnePBandWalletScream II ™?™©®©$_ REV 8.16.13
The following configuration was done in consideration of the best cost /performance basis suitable for high calculation density requirements > Mathematical, Astrophysical, vector analysis, particle, fluid, gas flow, and thermal simulation, statistical analysis, molecular biology, static and dynamic structural, 2D/ 3D CAD modeling, video editing, sound processing, graphic design, rendering, architecture, industrial design, financial analysis. >
1. (2) Intel Xeon E5-2687W Sandy Bridge-EP 3.1GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 20MB L3 Cache LGA 2011 150W 8-Core Server Processor > $3,868. ($1,934 each) On the Passmark CPU benchmark chart, this processor is the No.1 rated, score = 21491. In the top 100 systems on Passmark Performance test, this CPU is used in the 6th highest performing system.
2. (2) Thermaltake WATER2.0 Pro Closed-Loop All In One Liquid CPU Cooler Dual 120mm PWM Fans 120x49mm Radiator CLW0216 > $150 ($75 each) (I'm not confident in this choice and this component should be researched more carefully. Intel recommends liquid cooling for the 150W E5-2687W, and this one is among the quietest.)
3. INTEL S2600COESSI EEB Server Motherboard Dual LGA 2011 DDR3 1600 > $580 (Newegg). (Supports up to 512GB DDR3 ECC UDIMM/LV)
4. ASUS Z9PE-D16 SSI EEB Server Motherboard Dual LGA 2011 DDR3 1600 > $480 (See links above for information)
5. SUPERMICRO MBD-X9DAi-O Extended ATX Server Motherboard Dual LGA 2011 DDR3 > $490
a. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
b. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/xeon/c60...
c. 16GB ECC registered 1600 compatible memory > http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/memory/disp...
i. A 16GB Samsung module from the compatible list > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($180 each X4= $770 for 64GB, 8X= $1,440 for 128GB)
6. 128GB (8 X 16GB) DDR3- 1600 ECC RAM for Intel S2600COESSI EEB > About $1,200 (compatibility to be researched)
7. 128GB (8 X 16GB) SAMSUNG M393B2G70BH0-CK0 1X 16GB for ASUS Z9PE-D16 > 128GB= $1,160 ($145 each, Server Direct)
8. LSI MegaRAID Internal Low-Power SATA/SAS 9260-8i 6Gb/s PCI-Express 2.0 w/ 512MB onboard memory RAID Controller Card, Single > $499
9. NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x 16 HDCP Ready Workstation video card > $1,800.
10. OPT'L > PNY VCQ6000-PB Quadro 6000 6GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card > $3,648. (I think the 6000 is so good that you might consider buying a good used Quadro 6000 which on Ebay can be had in the $1,300-1,500 range.)
11. SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD512BW 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $520
12. (3) Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM $480 ($160 each) (RAID 1+0) (Active files, backup, system image) (These may be more useful as 4TB each)
13. SeaSonic X-1250 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply > $254.99
14. LIAN LI PC-D8000 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case $331.99
15. ASUS DVD Burner 24X DVDDRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS > $28.
16. NZXT Sentry-2 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Controller > $28.
17. Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM $140
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TOTAL = about
$8,700-9,000 with Quadro K5000 > Add
+$1,850 for new Quadro 6000 or subtract
-$200 for used Quadro 6000. This could be well under $8,000 by using the onboard RAID controller (deleting the LSI = -$500) and going from 128 to 64GB RAM (= -$600).
Cheers,
BambiBoom
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