Big Tech-Supported 'CLOUD Act' Is Yet Another Warrantless Surveillance Bill

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sadsteve

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So, another reason (a BIG one) to not use cloud storage/services. I will use email, I'll just encrypt the info I deem private and send it as an attachment.
 

Giroro

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"Allow the U.S. president to enter "executive agreements" that empower police in foreign nations that have weaker privacy laws than the United States to seize data in the United States while ignoring U.S. privacy laws."

There are countries out there which have weaker privacy laws than America's current policy of "there is no protection whatsoever, so long as the government is involved or its profitable"?
Because we didn't exactly ever get around to fixing the NSA, or the patriot act, or do anything to discourage massive private and governmental collection of data, or figure out how to prevent massive data breaches of those giant databases, or come up with a way to protect the "everybody" who has had their SSN stolen, or for that matter ever elect a single person to the federal government who actually understands how the internet works and realizes why we need to take privacy seriously.
Handing this kind of data out to foreign governments isn't just going to get innocent Americans arrested overseas (and in America), it completely obliterates the idea of National Security.
If we ever get into (another) war, I would much rather the enemy not have a comprehensive database about every individual American soldier - including name, address, family, previous work/skills, fingerprints, SSN, Drivers license photo, phone records, personal emails, social media accounts, and now even criminal records.
 

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Yeah, THAT'S totally safe.
 

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As far as I know, the government hasn't yet broken the encryption provided by a program like Veracrypt. All they'd really know is that I'm sending some information, not what the information is.
 

bo cephas

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Poor reporting. Who sponsored CLOUD? Who supported it? Who opposed it? Who voted for it and who voted against it? The Press is supposed to help us keep track of our representative's actions. You give us only two names, and substance from only one of those. Spectacular dropping of the ball.
 

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Im OK with the idea that law enforcement agencies can ask for information to foreign companies without all the hustle of local laws. As long as companies are willing to cooperate, there is nothing wrong with it.
Were I live, most corrupt people just save their money in foreign banks, and whenever our local justice asks/demands for info, they are usually safe because of stupid laws that prevent banks from sharing info (even with law enforcement agencies).
 

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... the law would presumably convince other nations that they don’t have to require American tech companies to store their data locally to be able to access their citizens’ data.
Might be true in some cases, but more often the "store locally" has been a pre requisit to prevent the US government from having (easy) access to the data.
With the new law US companies are then totally out of question as storage providers.
 

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I like how all of the acts that take away rights and privacy have names that sound safe and progressive: The Patriot Act, The Freedom Act, The Bald Eagle Act, The Cloud Act. (These are all real btw).

When we finally get leaders who aren't clowns and a little SOCIALISM (that's a joke), will they be passing acts titled The Spy Act, The Slavery Act, or The Bear Trap Act?

"After much debate, review, and transparency, the United States Congress is set to pass the Killer Clown Act of 2022. The purpose of this act is to undo many of the underhanded policies passed by the previous administration and close well known loopholes. President Bernie Sanders is expected to sign off on this bill later this week."
 
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