bios settings conflicting with msi command center/gaming app

[Piller]

Firstly, I have a msi z97 gaming 5, and a 4690k.

I had opened the gaming app, to see how much the gaming mode bumped up my new gpu. This made me remember why I never use the app. Theres no option to reset back to default, and it sets my cpu multiplier to 39.0

So I go into bios, reset everything back to default, as well as change my fan curves, save, reboot. Open the msi command center to confirm, its reading my multiplier at 39.0 still, and my fan curves at stock. CPU-z confirms its still 39.0 multipler. Reboot back into bios and see my bios settings for stock is still active. my bios is still set at 35, my fan curves are set on there. I can manually set my multiplier back to 35 on the command center and save, but everytime i reboot it resets back to 39. If I select "default settings" in command center, it sets it back to 39.0 as well. I understand 39 is boost speed, but it constantly stays at 39, and its making the cpu heat up when running for a duration

This is frustrating to say the least. My main concern is the fact I wanted to do an actual overclock in the next couple weeks when I get watercooling.

my command center/gaming app just refuses to let my bios control the cpu freq, and fan curve. Any help is appreciated! thanks

 

[space55]

A couple of things:
1) If I'm not mistaken, your default CPU multiplier is 3.9. 3.5 is your stock speed, whereas 3.9 is your "turbo" speed set by Intel out of the factory.
2) You should NEVER be overclocking your CPU in software. Always in BIOS. Somewhere in your software, there should be an option to turn off CPU overclocking. If not, just stop using that software. For GPU overclocking, your best bet is MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X (Both of which I have issues with, but they're the only tools you can really use)
3) If the CPU really heats up a lot, I'm going to guess that you have the stock fan installed. And from my experiences with the Intel stock fans, they're not that great. Just wait for the watercooling components to arrive, then overclock your CPU through BIOS, then validate with Prime95. Overclock your GPU in MSI afterburner, and then verify in FurMark or other synthetic benchmarks.

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[Piller]

A couple of things:
1) If I'm not mistaken, your default CPU multiplier is 3.9. 3.5 is your stock speed, whereas 3.9 is your "turbo" speed set by Intel out of the factory.
2) You should NEVER be overclocking your CPU in software. Always in BIOS. Somewhere in your software, there should be an option to turn off CPU overclocking. If not, just stop using that software. For GPU overclocking, your best bet is MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X (Both of which I have issues with, but they're the only tools you can really use)
3) If the CPU really heats up a lot, I'm going to guess that you have the stock fan installed. And from my experiences with the Intel stock fans, they're not that great. Just wait for the watercooling components to arrive, then overclock your CPU through BIOS, then validate with Prime95. Overclock your GPU in MSI afterburner, and then verify in FurMark or other synthetic benchmarks.

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but should the cpu be running at boost clock the entire time until it reaches a certain temp then throttle back? I thought it was only at 3.9ghz when under full load?

I've got a cm 212 evo, but I obsess whenever the cpu temps go above 50c on the stock clock.

I use command center to verify my fan curve is active only, and bios for all cpu changes, and afterburner for gpu. Curiosity had just gotten the better of me that day. I uninstalled the gaming app, and uninstalled command center, reset my curves in bios and default cpu settings, then reinstalled command center and its working normally. just curious about the cpu speeds now when not under load. should it be reading at 3.5ghz on cpuz? or stay at 3.9ghz until it reaches a heat threshhold

 

[space55]

As long as there's something running that could benefit from an increased CPU speed, the CPU will usually boost up to it's turbo speed. It's normal. Mine should be running at its turbo speed even though I've got very little running. There's a chance that you have Intel's Turbo Boost technology disabled, but that's probably not happened or going to happen.

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[Piller]

As long as there's something running that could benefit from an increased CPU speed, the CPU will usually boost up to it's turbo speed. It's normal. Mine should be running at its turbo speed even though I've got very little running. There's a chance that you have Intel's Turbo Boost technology disabled, but that's probably not happened or going to happen.

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its enabled as well as the secondary (increased) boost setting set to auto

it just runs at boost speed while sitting at the desktop, and I assumed its the cause of the warmer cpu temps under load

 

[space55]

Go into task manager and see if there are any processes eating up your CPU. That seems to be the last answer.

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