[citation][nom]belardo[/nom]Er, no. The people who say that Windwos8 is crap HAVE given logical reasoning. Its just that YOU don't like the answers.Like the BS in Vista "Turn off the OCP if it bugs you" or "add another 4GB if is slow" - just to make it usable like an XP install... The OS should be GOOD, out of the box. Windows7 is *GOOD* out of the box. Vista isn't, Win8 is not. Most people WILL NOT know how to re-add the start menu, period. Are you going to advertise in every BB, Fry's, Walmart on how to do this? You going to go to their homes and hand hold them on how to add a 3rd party add-on?Most people are NOT going to spend 1 minute to screw with this shit, they won't know where to begin.Since Metro is part of the Windows8 "package" - it means the WHOLE Windows8 is flawed.Nobody is saying that there are not good things in Win8, there are things to like about it. But the new skin, the metro etc makes it useless to most people. I don't care that you like it. More power to you. But those who HATE Windows 8 have a valid reason to do so, period. It doesn't work for them. iPhone4, a great product... no doubt about it, doesn't mean its right for me.The best way you may educate people is to create a website with a domain that says someting like "fixthiswindows8shitnow.com" which has links and how-to's to remove metro and replace the Start menu. And still, most people will never know about it.[/citation]
Anyone on this site who doesn't know this by know is probably not an expert no matter what they call themselves. The start menu tricks have been mentioned several times on every Windows 8 article ever since Metro was first talked about, especially once the registry fixes no longer worked. Also, yes, most of the Windows 8 haters don't give logical reasons. A lot of people are saying that there is nothing good in Windows 8 and anyone who says something like that is obviously ignorant about the subject and is not using logical reasoning because they ignore the many advantages that Windows 8 has over Windows 7 and Windows Vista, such as better resource management, performance, task manager, and more.
Beyond all of that, anyone who can't even think to do a Google search for how to put a start menu back into Windows 8 or something like that, yet is more than willing to download the entire OS and test it either in VMs or on extra partitions and drives, is not the sort of person worth listening too as a computer expert.
However, even without doing this, Windows 8 is still more than just usable. Granted, not everyone, but a lot of people who hate on it are hating strictly because they don't like change, not because they can't use it. Oh sure, a lot of people may say that they can't use it, but that's BS. There is nothing that the start menu can do that you can't still do in Windows 8 in some other way just as quickly except maybe for the shut down and other such options. Even then, there are shortcuts that can be made to them in a task bar menu. Is it more inconvenient than the start menu at that point? Sure, you'd have to set it up yourself. However, anyone who says that it is difficult/time-consuming to do or not possible is obviously clueless.
I know that I'm not everyone and maybe many other people use it differently, but when I use the start menu, it's almost always for Control Panel or Computer. Any programs that I want to run are on the desktop or the taskbar (either pinned or in my quick-launch, something that, contrary to popular belief, wasn't killed off in Windows 7 and Windows 8) where I can access them even faster than in the start menu, I don't use the search bar much at all (even if I did, Metro still has search), and the run bar can be accessed just as well from the task manager which I tend to have running at all times anyway. Sure, other people might use it differently, but there is literally nothing that the start menu does that can't be done faster. I could also add Control Panel and Computer to my desktop just as well, but I don't use them all too often anymore, so they'd just be wasting space. I even have two toolbars on my task bar that go to my downloads folder which is just as fast as, if not faster than, using the start menu for it.
Ignoring any of that is not being logical unless they can give a good reason for why it doesn't work for them. Being too stupid to either not already know that they can install a new start menu or to do a Google search about it is not being logical. Saying that you need the start menu without giving actual information about why you can't live without anyway it is not being logical. Despite both of these, this is as logical and informative as the majority of complaints about Windows 8 get. Heck, most aren't even this intelligent, let alone actually intelligent. What would be by far the most logical complaints that I have seen about Windows 8 were about what MS wants to do with Metro and how they are trying to *force* it on their customers, not that the OS itself is severely flawed.
Next to that, the only other issue that I can see worth mentioning would be the driver issue, but we don't even know how that will work out by launch time. Windows 8 graphics driver really have sucked from both Nvidia and AMD and that is a logical reason to have doubts about Windows 8, granted we don't know if they will be solved by launch time or not. Given how soon that is by now, chances are that problems will still be around for a while. Again, if this continues, then it is easily a very good reason to not use Windows 8 and maybe even to hate on using it, so long as the hate is stated with the fact that the problem is the drivers, not the OS itself, kept in mind.
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