Blizzard Making Changes to Systems in Diablo 3

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[citation][nom]dark_lord69[/nom]"No one will remember if a game is late, only if it's great."The original starcraft was WAAAAAAAAAY late... I remember![/citation]

Exactly. If any of you actually own the Warcraft II box, take a gander at the back of the manual.

Starcraft will be released summer of 1996.

Starcraft actual release date 31 March 1998. Starcraft was one of the greatest competitive RTS to ever hit the scene.

Find another game to occupy yourselves with or get over it.
 
Removal of the Identify scroll = Good // Potion Button = Good // Removing the Cauldron & Cube = Possibly Bad

I personally like the cube and I'm sure I would like the cauldron if it were available in the beta.
 
[citation][nom]bak0n[/nom]I'll only remember it if I get a LAN option.[/citation]

Blizzard made it very clear with Starcraft 2 that LAN isn't happening and they did very well with the game. Diablo 3 will be the same thing so I don't expect Blizzard to ever make another game with a LAN option. I've played the beta and it's looks great. LAN would be nice, but definitely not a requirement in my book.
 
[citation][nom]DTheSleepless[/nom]Actually, people will remember both. In the time it's taking Blizzard to give us Diablo III, BioWare gave us the ENTIRE MASS EFFECT FRANCHISE.[/citation]

Big difference. 1 is a single player RPG, the other is a multiplayer game that is created to satiate an addicting, almost infinitely replayable game. ME was a great story with good game elements, but didn't need to last longer than 1-2 playthroughs. D3 needs to last for YEARS, on 1 game.
 
[citation][nom]steadywaters[/nom]Put down $1,800 for a new rig in anticipation of an "early Q1" release. Could have gotten Ivy Bridge + nVideo GTX 6xx. I should have known better...[/citation]

Good thing you weren't holding your breath.
 
[citation][nom]Burodsx[/nom]Blizzard made it very clear with Starcraft 2 that LAN isn't happening and they did very well with the game. Diablo 3 will be the same thing so I don't expect Blizzard to ever make another game with a LAN option. I've played the beta and it's looks great. LAN would be nice, but definitely not a requirement in my book.[/citation]

Just because the game did well, that doesn't justify removing features. If battle net actually worked as it was supposed to it would be fine, but I've seen tournament players get disconnected during matches. If they are going to remove LAN support, this absolutely should NOT happen.

Obviously, the story is different with Diablo since it isn't likely to have a big competitive scene. But the point is that there is no justification for leaving out LAN support, and we have a right to call out Blizzard for this.
 
My wife and I both lov(ed) Diablo, Diablo 2, and LOD, but I will not buy Diablo 3 if it a) requires a battlenet connection to validate or play the game, or b) does not have LAN play. PERIOD! Which of course means I won't be buying D3 since it fails in both counts.

While the LAN play is just a case for games like Diablo where we (my family) like to play with each other on the LAN, but the whole validation thing is a case for all gaming for me. It is absolutely stupid for people in the same house to have to use the internet to play a game together. As for validation, I do not mind copy protection (that does not cause a ton of problems), but I refuse to buy any game that depends on the original company or some server in the sky for me to install and play a game. I like to play some of my games on and off over a number of years. A good example is Theif. What if that game had required the company for validation to install and play the game? They went belly up! That and sometimes I like to play games when I have no internet connection available. What then? Because of these new trends, I have not purchased quite a few games I would have otherwise. And if I really want to play it, I go and pirate a hacked copy where the validation has been removed. These companies are turning a lot of people like me into pirates, the very thing they were trying to control from happening.
 
[citation][nom]steadywaters[/nom]Put down $1,800 for a new rig in anticipation of an "early Q1" release. Could have gotten Ivy Bridge + nVideo GTX 6xx. I should have known better...[/citation]

Good lord, $1,800 for a rig to play Diablo? You do know it'll run on an 8800GTX, right?
 
[citation][nom]siuol11[/nom]Good lord, $1,800 for a rig to play Diablo? You do know it'll run on an 8800GTX, right?[/citation]

You mean it'll run on a 6600GT...Possibly at near max.
 
I hope that the effort to streamline gameplay doesn't end up flatlining it.

ProgressQuest eliminated all of the repetitive parts of RPG play. Give it a try if you haven't heard of it before.
 
Anybody who says this game is great and lacks experience with other two. your opinion is invalid! I know this diablo 3 is gonna suck hard comparing to first 2. You can keep your Diablo 3!!! I know its just other money grubbin half assed game.
 
[citation][nom]steadywaters[/nom]Put down $1,800 for a new rig in anticipation of an "early Q1" release. Could have gotten Ivy Bridge + nVideo GTX 6xx. I should have known better...[/citation]
and you could have probably played this game maxed with a computer that cost 1\3 of that price. Then bought whatever will come after Ivy. After you've played DIII to your hearts content.
 
[citation][nom]thrasher32[/nom]By the time they release this game no one will care anymore. Blizzard, please remove your cranium from your rectum.[/citation]

Its only been 10 years. What another few months?!? Cant wait!!!!
 
As someone who got in to beta, I got to admit that D3 doesn't feel as replayable as D2, even with random quests/ events. Or I might just be getting old. The atmosphere in the beta-areas is great, combining the feel of D1 & D2 quite well, although IMO the graphics style takes a little away from it. Overall the story feels like something you'd want to play through, once or twice.

"but for now we’re going to focus on the extensive customization options the game already offers."
If you consider an item a customization, then I guess. Granted, there're no runes in the beta yet.

With me being against always-online for SP (seriously, the game sucks hard with a latency of over 300, like pretty much all online games), and hating RMT ( although understandable ), I'm more excited for Torchlight 2 than D3.
 
[citation][nom]sporkimus[/nom]I'm starting to think George Lucas is in charge of this game because Blizz has been doing nothing but make more and more changes and just delaying the release further and further.[/citation]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
 
"No one will remember if the game is late, only if it's great. We trust in our ability to put out a great game, but we're not quite there yet. In addition to finishing and polishing the content of the game we're continuing to iterate on some of the core game systems."

If only Bethesda felt the same instead of shoehorning Skyrim into this 11.11.11 release date (whether the game was ready or not - which it obviously wasn't in the PC platform).
 
[citation][nom]phoenix32x[/nom]My wife and I both lov(ed) Diablo, Diablo 2, and LOD, but I will not buy Diablo 3 if it a) requires a battlenet connection to validate or play the game, or b) does not have LAN play. PERIOD! Which of course means I won't be buying D3 since it fails in both counts.While the LAN play is just a case for games like Diablo where we (my family) like to play with each other on the LAN, but the whole validation thing is a case for all gaming for me. It is absolutely stupid for people in the same house to have to use the internet to play a game together. As for validation, I do not mind copy protection (that does not cause a ton of problems), but I refuse to buy any game that depends on the original company or some server in the sky for me to install and play a game. I like to play some of my games on and off over a number of years. A good example is Theif. What if that game had required the company for validation to install and play the game? They went belly up! That and sometimes I like to play games when I have no internet connection available. What then? Because of these new trends, I have not purchased quite a few games I would have otherwise. And if I really want to play it, I go and pirate a hacked copy where the validation has been removed. These companies are turning a lot of people like me into pirates, the very thing they were trying to control from happening.[/citation]

No one is turning you into a pirate. You are making that decision on your own. I am playing the beta and there is nothing intrusive about the validation method they have chosen not to mention that the way you go about creating a game and finding a game your friend or family is in is freaken phenomenal. You just right click your friends name after you select your character and if he is in a call you just click join his game. No searching for game names, no nothing. Extremely easy.

If you want to plan a lan game, you require a network, if you want to play over the internet you require a network, so how is it any different besides the fact that the game connects to Battle.net. I could understand your point if you just wanted to play single player by yourself but what your are saying does not make any sense.
 
Old, decrepit, ancient...that is what Diablo is. Is there anyone besides the hardcore fans who want to play a 3/4 view throwback from a dozen years ago? Might as well break out Baldurs Gate 2 and see if it plays on Win7 and save yourself $60.00. This game is dead-in-the-water! That is why it's taking so long.
 
[citation][nom]Bloob[/nom]As someone who got in to beta, I got to admit that D3 doesn't feel as replayable as D2, even with random quests/ events. Or I might just be getting old. The atmosphere in the beta-areas is great, combining the feel of D1 & D2 quite well, although IMO the graphics style takes a little away from it. Overall the story feels like something you'd want to play through, once or twice. "but for now we’re going to focus on the extensive customization options the game already offers."If you consider an item a customization, then I guess. Granted, there're no runes in the beta yet.With me being against always-online for SP (seriously, the game sucks hard with a latency of over 300, like pretty much all online games), and hating RMT ( although understandable ), I'm more excited for Torchlight 2 than D3.[/citation]


That is my problem with the game. seems like it is going to be a great game, but it does not seem like it is going to have the replay ability the D2 had. Then again, we are not seeing everything. The beta from what I have been told is extremely limited. There is not much in the way of customization at least not in the beta.
 
ap3x, yes the beta keeps you very focused on the content they want tested. The only customization you have are switching out your skills and passive bonuses, which is a great idea imo. In D2 people would be gimped until they reached the exact skill they wanted to use. I remember many games of me leveling using tons of mana potions and mass spaming lvl 1 ice bolt. D3 just gives you the skills at a certain level, but you're limited to how many you can equip.
 
[citation][nom]cobra5000[/nom]Old, decrepit, ancient...that is what Diablo is. Is there anyone besides the hardcore fans who want to play a 3/4 view throwback from a dozen years ago?[/quote]Yeah, a lot of people, actually. Dunno where people like you get the idea that every game that's not a freaking FPS is somehow technologically backwards. Hint: the camera angle has shit-all to do with technology or progress or anything. Another hint: the FP viewpoint is OLD. REALLY old.
Might as well break out Baldurs Gate 2 and see if it plays on Win7 and save yourself $60.00.
Well you're right on that point: older games like Baldur's Gate 2 are still superior to a lot of the trash that comes out nowadays.
 
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