Bootable RAID 0 on board?

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Hey everyone, first time posting here, looks like a great forum.

Got a question about the SATA raid support on my motherboard (MSI KT6V-LSR).

In the features, under the VIA 8237 Chipset part, it shows I have SATA raid 0 support. My question is, should this be bootable? Or is it going to be a software setup. I'd really like to boot onto the raid 0 setup.

Otherwise I'll just buy another wd800jb IDE and a hardware raid controller card. But I thought for the price of the card I might as well buy 2 SATA drives and run them in raid if they'd be bootable.

I've read up quite a bit on setting up raid and whatnot, just not finding anything saying if this raid 0 support on my motherboard should be bootable.

Thanks for the help, appreciate any feedback.
 
Should be bootable. Is it built into the chipset or on a different chip on the mobo?

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thanks for the reply, pretty sure it's on a different chip, there's the chip by the cpu and another down by the ide/sata controllers that I assume controlls those.

here's a cut/paste on the chipset(s)- if it helps any -

Chipset
• VIA® KT600 Chipset
- Supports FSB @200/266/333/400MHz
- Supports dual channel native SATA controller up to 150MB/s with Raid 0 or Raid 1
- Integrated Hardware Sound Blaster/Direct Sound AC97 audio
- Ultra DMA 66/100/133 master mode PCI EIDE controller
- ACPI & PC2001 compliant enhanced power management
- Supports USB2.0 up to 8 ports

• VIA® VT8237 Chipset
- Integrated Hi-Speed USB 2.0 controller, 480Mb/sec, 8 ports
- 2 Serial ATA/ 150 ports
- 2 channel Ultra ATA 100 bus Master IDE controller
- PCI Master v 2.3, I/O APIC
- Supports both ACPI and legacy APM power management - Serial ATA/150 RAID 0
 
Here's a link to MSI's <A HREF="http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=KT6V-LSR&class=mb" target="_new">KT6V-LSR product detail</A>. The RAID is on the VT8237 southbridge - not a separate controller chip. For this chipset there are two chips that make up the chipset: a Northbridge (KT600) and a Southbridge (VT8237).

For detailed info on how to setup your RAID - read the RAID FAQ in the HDD forum.

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Hi again,

that is where I did the cut/paste from. I've read the faq here and several others, lots of good info. But one thing I'm reading (if I'm reading correctly) is that if you do "software" raid then you cannot boot windows from that raid setup. That you'd have to put windows on another drive separate from the array and boot from that one.

was just trying to make sure if I set up SATA raid 0 with this onboard controller, that it would be bootable, or if it would be like some of these cheap raid cards that I see that just do software raid. hope i'm making sense.

Thanks!
 
RAID 0 from the VT8237 will be bootable.

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Rugger, thank you for your patience. Have built several PCs and have been a bit of a "computer junkie" for quite a while, but no real experience with this raid stuff.

I finally got a DVD writer and am seeing what people mean about how it can take a while to encode so I'm hoping it will help with that. Also going to be doing some audio recording/editing in the future. Wouldn't mind some better load times with the games either :)

am planning on keeping all my important documents and such on my trusty ol' wd hdd.

thanks again
 
Speed is never a bad thing! What's your system setup?

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Well, my current setup is definitely starting to show it’s age lol, has served me well though-

-MSI KT6V
-AMD XP 1900+ o/c a hair to 1.67 (I don’t have good enough cooling to feel comfy going much higher)
-512MB Samsung PC3200
-Gainward 64MB Gf4 ti4200 o/c a bit to 285/544
-WD 7200 rpm 80GB
-Maxtor 7200 rpm 18GB
-52x cdrw
-LG DVD +/- R/W GSA-4163BI
-SB Audigy Platinum
-win xp pro

will probably be upgrading the vid card, ram, and cpu later on...thinking i'll do this raid thing first.
 
What core on the XP; Palomino? Thoroughbred? What FSB are you running? What size cache on the HDDs?

Check out the Samsung RAM on the same page as the Infineon. It's the same price and I personally like to stick with the same branded RAM. I'm probably just superstitious, that or remembering back to when memory upgrades were a tricky deal...

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I've been going back and forth between this and the memory forum too much! I was thinking this was the thread on Memory recommendations - not HDD RAID!

You're right on the RAID0. I didn't see anything that would really benefit from the RAID0. Having 1GB of RAM would have a bigger impact than the RAID.

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I finally got a DVD writer and am seeing what people mean about how it can take a while to encode so I'm hoping it will help with that.
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Are you hoping that the RAID will help speed up the DVD burning process? Or are you asking about encoding/decoding video for burning onto a DVD?

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Are you hoping that the RAID will help speed up the DVD burning process?
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I just got me 2 DVD burner RAIDed on my computer. It could burn my movie twice faster, but I had to RAID my TV because one wasnt fast enough to display the movie from my RAIDed DVD player.

It is not too bad, just make sure that you have 2 DVD players that are identicals.. You dont want to have 2 differents remote for your player.

having 2 differents TV aint too bad. but they should be the same size, for better quality display...

I did read the FAQ, that helps me a lot for that!!

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[shocked) Ohhhh , where did you insert the floppy to load the drivers???

*pat now having some not so nice image in his head from Wusy inserting a floppy in his...*

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yeah...i was thinking raid 0 would help speed up the video editing/rendering/encoding/decoding... i know it isn't going to make my DVD writer burn faster lol......

again i've read the raid FAQs, and wasn't really asking anything besides if my mobo would give me hardware raid... i didn't know if in general on board raid controllers are hardware or software... didn't see that in the faq... apologize to everyone for asking the question if i missed it in the faq somewhere...thanks..
 
RAID 0 will be useful for editing. I mean, running throu the video file for clipping, cutting.

Otherwise, it may make your system faster, but only for large file moving.

A DVD drive is fairly slow compared to HDD. MY USB2 HDD can easily keep the DVD burner happy on my system..

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I'd highly recommen another 512MB RAM for the type of work you're doing...This <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-141-164&DEPA=1" target="_new">PQI Power series 512MB</A> is a great deal. RAM prices are really cheap right now and I think you'd get as much or more of a performance boost from the RAM as the RAID. JMHO

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Hey that looks like a pretty good deal, hadn't seen that one on newegg, think i'll get a stick.

With the raid 0, it's just something I've been wanting to try for a long time. To me it sounds like it'd be fun to mess with and get working correctly, and could offer some performance boost to video, audio work, and with the load time on games, among other things.

Just finished my checkbook though and I think I might hold off on that for the time being lol. And anyways the $45 SATA 80GB western digitals that I was going to set it up with are gone now lol (they were under the "refurb" section at newegg). Thanks for the heads up on the pqi ram. I've usually tried to stick with the same brands too but at this price I think I'll give it a try.
 
hrmm just a heads up to anyone else looking at this particular pqi ram, apparently it takes up 4 banks. that's the max on my mobo so i can't run anything else with it 🙁

i should have done my homework on this one lol. at least it was newegg, should be an easy return :)
 
Why does it take up 4 slots? There are no obstructions from a large heatspreader - just looks like a regular stick of RAM.

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not 4 slots, 4 banks. my mobo supports 2 dimms, up to 4 banks. my samsung only takes up 2 banks, so i need to buy another stick that only takes 2 next time.

i think taking up 4 banks on 1 stick allows for slightly lesser quality chips to be used, thus the dirt cheap ram.

it looks like it would have ran just fine by itself, would be better for a motherboard that supports more than 4 banks though so you can use more than 1 stick.

i'm not exactly sure how to tell how many banks it has by the info given at newegg, maybe the 64Mx64-bit in the description gives it away. the chips on this stick say 32Mx8 though hmmm...might refer to something else... I had to use HWiNFO to finally see it is 4 bank ram.

lesson learned for me though, gotta watch out for that in the future
 
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