Bottleneck in gta 5

[Kunal_5]

Hi guys .i had just bought a new pc with an i5 6400 and a gtx 1060. I was about to buy an i3 bit people recommended that even the cheapest i5 is better than it. So i went with 6400. Today i installed gta 5 and i thought of maxing it out at 900p. Just as i started playing i saw huge dips to 40s and the fps never went at 60. After checking whats happening ,i saw that cpu is being used 100% but gpu is only being used about 50-60%. I honestly didn't expect this big of a bottleneck from an i5 even let it be a 2nd gen. Can someone please help me on this issue???i beg u plzzz....

 

[Ne0Wolf7]

You have a bottleneck, that's all there is to it...
GTA is a CPU intensive game hat also relies on a powerful GPU.
If you want more PFS, you'll have to lower your settings.

 

[Ecky]

You've identified it, GTA V is a CPU hog and your i5 is causing reduced framerates. Plenty of people on here say that an i5 will not bottleneck in any game, but clearly that's not the case. There's a reason i7's exist.

 

[Ecky]

You have a bottleneck, that's all there is to it...
GTA is a CPU intensive game hat also relies on a powerful GPU.
If you want more PFS, you'll have to lower your settings.

Lowering settings won't help if the GPU is only 50% utilized as it is. OP's only options are to either live with it as it is, or buy a faster CPU.

 

[Ne0Wolf7]

Lowering settings would kind of stink, but it would help either way.
But in the end, I agree with you, I just wanted to throw it out there.

 

[Ecky]

Lowering settings would kind of stink, but it would help either way.
But in the end, I agree with you, I just wanted to throw it out there.

No, it wouldn't help. If the GPU is only 50% utilized, lowering graphical settings will not improve framerates. OP could actually do some things like turn on anti-aliasing and have zero framerate impact because the GPU is not fully utilized.

 

[Ne0Wolf7]

Oh.

 

[bloodhawk758]

Hi guys .i had just bought a new pc with an i5 6400 and a gtx 1060. I was about to buy an i3 bit people recommended that even the cheapest i5 is better than it. So i went with 6400. Today i installed gta 5 and i thought of maxing it out at 900p. Just as i started playing i saw huge dips to 40s and the fps never went at 60. After checking whats happening ,i saw that cpu is being used 100% but gpu is only being used about 50-60%. I honestly didn't expect this big of a bottleneck from an i5 even let it be a 2nd gen. Can someone please help me on this issue???i beg u plzzz....

Whats your PCs full spec? The 1060 shouldn't bottleneck that hard towards an 6400. Also, what's your definiton of "maxing out"?

 

[st3v30]

Turn down all Advanced Settings and use MSAAx4 it should get you more FPS as it will tax GPU more and let CPU bear a little. Also one key settings destroys FPS on weaker CPU's that are pared with stronger GPU's and that is Population Density setting.Try Playing with half or at 0 to see will it bring you better performance, also dont use NVIDIA PCSS that settings kills FPS.

 

[Ecky]

Turn down all Advanced Settings and use MSAAx4 it should get you more FPS as it will tax GPU more and let CPU bear a little. Also one key settings destroys FPS on weaker CPU's that are pared with stronger GPU's and that is Population Density setting.Try Playing with half or at 0 to see will it bring you better performance, also dont use NVIDIA PCSS that settings kills FPS.

This is incorrect. Turning up anti-aliasing will not improve framerates in a CPU-bound scenario.

 

[st3v30]

I know it works for me in GTA 5, i get more Stable FPS.

 

[Ecky]

I know it works for me in GTA 5, i get more Stable FPS.

Placebo. Anti-aliasing increases GPU load. If your GPU is not 100% loaded due to your CPU bottlenecking your framerates, you can run AA virtually "for free", but it will not decrease your CPU load. If your GPU is 100% loaded and you apply AA, your framerates will drop.

 

[st3v30]

As you said "If your GPU is 100%", in his case it isn't so he have room to spare on AA to tax GPU more, also he is playing on 900p.So higher AA will help him get that usage up and fix drops when CPU is all the time on 100% and cant draw anymore calls for GPU.This way GPU will be more under stress from heavy AA.

 

[Ecky]

Consider this: If the CPU can deliver 40fps, and you raise graphical settings until the GPU can deliver less than 40fps, you're not improving your framerates. Your CPU is no longer the limiting factor, yes, but it's not going to get any smoother. Your framerate is only as high as the slowest component can deliver, and increasing GPU load will not help that.

 

[Supernova1138]

You've identified it, GTA V is a CPU hog and your i5 is causing reduced framerates. Plenty of people on here say that an i5 will not bottleneck in any game, but clearly that's not the case. There's a reason i7's exist.

Current i5s can run GTA V quite well and likely won't be a bottleneck unless you have a 144Hz monitor and are trying to get 100+FPS with something like a GTX 1070 or higher. The i5 6400 is something of an exception though due to its anemic base clockspeed.

OP might want to see if his board has a feature called "Multicore Optimization" or "Multicore Enhancement" that might help by forcing all cores to run at the maximum Turbo Boost speed. Just watch you temps while doing this with the stock Intel cooler, Intel has cheaped out by removing the copper slugs so using such a feature may lead to unacceptably high temps on the stock cooler.

 

[Ecky]

You've identified it, GTA V is a CPU hog and your i5 is causing reduced framerates. Plenty of people on here say that an i5 will not bottleneck in any game, but clearly that's not the case. There's a reason i7's exist.

Current i5s can run GTA V quite well and likely won't be a bottleneck unless you have a 144Hz monitor and are trying to get 100+FPS with something like a GTX 1070 or higher. The i5 6400 is something of an exception though due to its anemic base clockspeed.

OP might want to see if his board has a feature called "Multicore Optimization" or "Multicore Enhancement" that might help by forcing all cores to run at the maximum Turbo Boost speed. Just watch you temps while doing this with the stock Intel cooler, Intel has cheaped out by removing the copper slugs so using such a feature may lead to unacceptably high temps on the stock cooler.

The 6600K has ~25% higher clockspeed than the 6400. That would not turn 40fps into 100fps.

 

[naturesninja]

I have seen better FPS on that game with lesser hardware. Something else is up. Vsync has major issues with GTA V, Turn it off. Power settings should be set to maximum performance. CPU Turbo should be set to on in BIOS. Both your CPU and GPU are more than capable of maximizing that game at 1080p, minus MXAA, and long shadows/extended distance scaling, while retaining above 60FPS. This is NOT a hardware issue.

 

[Supernova1138]

You've identified it, GTA V is a CPU hog and your i5 is causing reduced framerates. Plenty of people on here say that an i5 will not bottleneck in any game, but clearly that's not the case. There's a reason i7's exist.

Current i5s can run GTA V quite well and likely won't be a bottleneck unless you have a 144Hz monitor and are trying to get 100+FPS with something like a GTX 1070 or higher. The i5 6400 is something of an exception though due to its anemic base clockspeed.

OP might want to see if his board has a feature called "Multicore Optimization" or "Multicore Enhancement" that might help by forcing all cores to run at the maximum Turbo Boost speed. Just watch you temps while doing this with the stock Intel cooler, Intel has cheaped out by removing the copper slugs so using such a feature may lead to unacceptably high temps on the stock cooler.

The 6600K has ~25% higher clockspeed than the 6400. That would not turn 40fps into 100fps.

Yes, and if you want 100FPS you'd probably want an i7, and could probably afford one if you can get a GPU that can give you 100FPS in GTA V without dialing back a lot of settings. If you're targeting 60Hz, an i5 is certainly enough for that game provided you don't have a really low clocked one like the 6400. Why Intel is offering a chip with such a low clockspeed outside of their low power line baffles me. The yields must have been quite bad that they had a lot of crappy chips they needed to foist on the public that wouldn't sell if they had the T or S suffix applied to them.

 

[Kunal_5]

You have a bottleneck, that's all there is to it...
GTA is a CPU intensive game hat also relies on a powerful GPU.
If you want more PFS, you'll have to lower your settings.

https://youtu.be/4PltxjaCkKk
Just take alook at this video.. This man has an i3 6100 but gpu is running at 100percent but why not mine? And of think that there's a bottleneck then can u suggest any other cpu

 

[bloodhawk758]

You have a bottleneck, that's all there is to it...
GTA is a CPU intensive game hat also relies on a powerful GPU.
If you want more PFS, you'll have to lower your settings.

https://youtu.be/4PltxjaCkKk
Just take alook at this video.. This man has an i3 6100 but gpu is running at 100percent but why not mine? And of think that there's a bottleneck then can u suggest any other cpu

Answer my question if you want a solution, whats your pcs spec and what is your definition of "maxed out"?

 

[Kunal_5]

You have a bottleneck, that's all there is to it...
GTA is a CPU intensive game hat also relies on a powerful GPU.
If you want more PFS, you'll have to lower your settings.

https://youtu.be/4PltxjaCkKk
Just take alook at this video.. This man has an i3 6100 but gpu is running at 100percent but why not mine? And of think that there's a bottleneck then can u suggest any other cpu

Answer my question if you want a solution, whats your pcs spec and what is your definition of "maxed out"?

My pc specs are
I5 6400
Msi gtx 1060 gaming x
Gigabyte h110m
8gb single stick 2133mhz
1tb wd blue

And my maxed out means all settings to very high and ultra except post fx and grass which are at high and fxaa on, msaa x4,txaa on, and reflection msaa off

Thanks all u brothers .... Will appreciate your help forever if u help me solve this problem...

 

[bloodhawk758]

You have a bottleneck, that's all there is to it...
GTA is a CPU intensive game hat also relies on a powerful GPU.
If you want more PFS, you'll have to lower your settings.

https://youtu.be/4PltxjaCkKk
Just take alook at this video.. This man has an i3 6100 but gpu is running at 100percent but why not mine? And of think that there's a bottleneck then can u suggest any other cpu

Answer my question if you want a solution, whats your pcs spec and what is your definition of "maxed out"?

My pc specs are
I5 6400
Msi gtx 1060 gaming x
Gigabyte h110m
8gb single stick 2133mhz
1tb wd blue

And my maxed out means all settings to very high and ultra except post fx and grass which are at high and fxaa on, msaa x4,txaa on, and reflection msaa off

Thanks all u brothers .... Will appreciate your help forever if u help me solve this problem...

Fxaa, Msaa, Txaa does pretty much the same thing, only use one of them, not all 3, and kills fps

 

[Kunal_5]

You have a bottleneck, that's all there is to it...
GTA is a CPU intensive game hat also relies on a powerful GPU.
If you want more PFS, you'll have to lower your settings.

https://youtu.be/4PltxjaCkKk
Just take alook at this video.. This man has an i3 6100 but gpu is running at 100percent but why not mine? And of think that there's a bottleneck then can u suggest any other cpu

Answer my question if you want a solution, whats your pcs spec and what is your definition of "maxed out"?

My pc specs are
I5 6400
Msi gtx 1060 gaming x
Gigabyte h110m
8gb single stick 2133mhz
1tb wd blue

And my maxed out means all settings to very high and ultra except post fx and grass which are at high and fxaa on, msaa x4,txaa on, and reflection msaa off

Thanks all u brothers .... Will appreciate your help forever if u help me solve this problem...

Fxaa, Msaa, Txaa does pretty much the same thing, only use one of them, not all 3, and kills fps

Ok ...thanks for that..will certainly try that out in some minutes.. but apart from frame rates the main thing bothering me is the gpu usage...i am scratching my head since morning about what to do since i am very scared as i dont have anymore money to buy a new cpu and this was kinda my first and last gaming pc so i just want it to run fantastic

 

[Kunal_5]

So did someone arrive at some solution????

 

[Kunal_5]

try upping your resolution to 1080p, if your monitor does not support it then go to nvidia control panel and enable DSR.it may help as your GPU is meant for maxed out settings at full HD aka 1080p and running games lower than 1080p can cause a gpu bottleneck.

I tried even at 4k...... still around 50%...i am not understanding what the heck is happening...cpu is good, gpu is fine too then what's the problem?