BSA: Software Piracy Cost $50 Billion in 2008

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Ha. I was wandering why we have so many propaganda news this week. The BSA is back with their studies. How much the dirty pirates are costing us?! I have simple math task for everyone to solve. Let accept that the "losses" are really $50.2 billion and there is magic that allows to remove the "piracy" this will result in $50.2 billion less money spend for hardware because software and hardware are complementary products. How much the software sells will drop if less hardware is sold?
The numbers of those studies is very questionable. They have only single purpose to full the propaganda in order to request more protections for failing business model. Selling copies in today reality is doomed. The software companies need to find new business model.
 
Do they realize most people wouldnt buy the software if they didnt get it illegally? If i didnt pirate microsoft word, i would use open office. If i didnt pirate all my games, i would play online games. Only a few things are worth it, those are the things that make money

If games went $50 may i would buy a couple. If photoshop wasnt $700
i would probably buy it, it would have to come down to about $50 maybe.
 
I think if some magic came about that made pirating impossible you'd see software sales go up slightly short term. Long term you very well might see sales DECREASE relatively as the advancement of computing in third world countries slowed. The VAST VAST majority of people pirating software would never buy it so they might as well be making up their "we lost this much" number.

I think the way the software industry SHOULD look at the problem is as an indication that they need to think of more affordable ways to market their product.
 
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Lol brought it down to $200
 
Bullshitter's Anonymous?

If someone pirates something, they had no intention of paying for it, you didn't lose a sale, you just didn't make one.
 
"If someone pirates something, they had no intention of paying for it, you didn't lose a sale, you just didn't make one."

Not only is that true, but i wander how and where they get those numbers? I didn't know they were counting and i don't know how they count those numbers.
 
Only 30 percent in the netherlands according to the chart, imho that not to shabby knowing that 28 percent of the dutch people cant afford to buy descent software on a regular base.

The again i guess its about busyness software ... which can be translated to a lot of people running a pirated version of windows XP on their home computers (according to an article in a magazine a bit back about 48 percent).

Imagine all these 48 percent of the windows xp users switching to BSD or Linux based systems which are way more affordable.
And now imagine when will the big software vendors lose more money if every one ran pirated but common software or when they run free and open source software ?
 
if ppl all of a sudden couldn't pirate software, they would just use the free-ware equivalents. the software market is the same as any other market (that doesn't have some horrible monopoly) you don't tell us how much something costs, we, the consumer decide how much something is worth.
 
[citation][nom]matt87_50[/nom]if ppl all of a sudden couldn't pirate software, they would just use the free-ware equivalents. the software market is the same as any other market (that doesn't have some horrible monopoly) you don't tell us how much something costs, we, the consumer decide how much something is worth.[/citation]

I like that line of thinking +1
 
Thats a load of crap.

90% of the people that download stuff like adobe photoshop and the likes are people that would never buy it in the first place.

So no, illegal downloads != lost sales
 
So the failing economy is responsible for all other forms of business losing money but products built by 1's and 0's isnt effected by it?

So they are saying they didnt lose money for the same reasons many others have but instead its due to piracy?

Ok, let me try this again. When the automotive business goes under its the economy, but when the digital industry loses money its because of Piracy?

Wait Wait, Im still not getting it. Did internet Pirates cause Crysler to go bankrupt?
 
Companies like Adobe should almost be happy people are doing this. The people and companies that actually NEED these products generally buy them anyway while average people like you and me give these products a lot of good rep. I know if software Adobe Photoshop and Sony Vegas weren't potentially free, most people wouldn't know or care about them at all. This raises more interest in the subject which potentially results in more people going into career fields utilizing these products because an interest was sparked from a torrent. But it is still stealing... maybe 50/50 good and bad eh?
 
Whatever...$50.2 billion in lost due to piracy. It's quite evident that many software developers make their software free and/or easy to pirate to propagate the use of their software. Once they hit a certain critical mass they start to crack down. It's the ying and yang of software development. If there weren't piracy, there wouldn't be billion dollar software companies. Let's put it this way... if you really wanted to protect software, it should come along with a hardware key that is required on the workstation. Piracy has helped software companies more than it has hurt it. The biggest problem for software companies are the myriad of talented programmers who are sick of working for draconian companies. Hence they start to contribute into open source giving back to mankind. Piracy... whatever. The gift of open source is the future.
 
This is a complete BS. When I started learning cubase, I would download all the plugins through torrents. Now I got a steady job and bought all the software plugins, including 500$ Cubase 5. Without torrents/downloading, I wouldn't learn about them.
 
how do they know how much software in use is pirated? if they knew that... then that would make them either psychic, or incredibly good at breaking into everyone's computers and checking the validation codes on all of the installed software. Seeing as I know that no one will get in through my firewall without my knowledge, that makes them psychic... so the obvious next question is, "why don't you divine a solution to the problem instead of telling us how bad of a problem it is?"
 
There should be a methodology included or linked with the paper.. it will tell you if they considered things like sales behavior or how they calculated.

Inferences made by the sponsor partner (BSA) is not part of the research i think. you have to read the fine print to really get the full picture, which i'm too lazy to do for people here... but there is a systematic way of doing it.

Of course there should always be a % of error included, but i don't think they release that publically... only to the sponsors.. or BSA in this case...
 
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