Question BSOD after all attempts to fix

[GenericJim]

I would assume that my bios time being 35 seconds would be an issue as it’s the newest stuff, but I guess that also could be the exact reason. I’m less worried about that and more worried about the bsods honestly

 

[GenericJim]

I would assume that my bios time being 35 seconds would be an issue as it’s the newest stuff, but I guess that also could be the exact reason. I’m less worried about that and more worried about the bsods honestly

On top of that. I don’t fully understand bios options, especially the boot section of it tbh.

 

[Colif]

Fair enough. I don't go in my bios either unless I have to.

Your bios isn't showing me anything in the dumps, it should tell me Motherboard name, bios version, ram, and what CPU you have. I know you say you have newest but it makes me wonder if there is a problem with it.

Had anymore bsod? if so, share dumps.

 

[GenericJim]

My cpu is 7950x
Ram is gskill ddr5
Bios is most up to date
Asus Tuf gaming x670e plus wifi
I still haven’t. But idrk how to recreate it either.

 

[Colif]

Most people don't want them

you can run this to force it but take the precautions I show.
obviously download win 11 instead of 10

Info - Driver Verifier Instructions

Please don't run this until you are asked to as it can put you in a boot loop what is Driver verifier? It is a part of Windows designed to reveal bad drivers. It tests them individually. It will cause Blue Screen Errors as that is its job Driver Verifier monitors Windows kernel-mode...

forums.tomshardware.com

it has nasty habit of causing a boot loop, hence precautions. You might be fine and it doesn't happen. I just like to be prepared
Its part of windows, it tests drivers, it just has a nasty habit of breaking windows.
It will cause a BSOD, if any drivers are bad. If it doesn't cause a BSOD in 12 hours, stop it as it will slow PC down.
Give me any dumps you get as a result.

 

[GenericJim]

I should probably go through doing memtest86 first;m, as I’ve done windows memory diagnostics but I have seen that it can miss a lot. After that if nothing shows I can try that, but if it ends up fresh installing windows wouldn’t that just end up in the same place as previously, not really knowing if windows messed up?

 

[Colif]

no, the win 11 installer is just a boot drive. Its useful if you get a boot loop as can boot off it and run system restore. Its all explained on the link

Memtest is a good place to start

 

[GenericJim]

I mean if you have to do a fresh install, but yes. I will run it tonight and see if it comes up with anything, when running it it is okay to just start it and go to sleep correct?

 

[Colif]

Yes (I assume you mean Memtest?)

I don't ask people to run the verifer enough to know how often it ends in a loop. From memory the last few people have been fine.
I just don't like suggesting something that can break windows. Hence precautions.

 

[GenericJim]

yea memtest
the verifier ive read about, i just know that it can end with a fresh install of windows which with my luck would probably be the case, but if memtest doesnt come back with anything i can try it
i cant exactly tell if my pc is running at its full potential is my issue to know if something is running in the background incorectly
as i previous had an older build, it doesnt quite seem snappier or faster, and seems like benchmarks score slightly lower than most others ive seen. just makes me nervous, could be a placebo effect is all. hopefully we can get it all ironed out as the only decent pc store from me is a 3 hour drive.

 

[Colif]

i would copy anything off PC you can't afford to lose before running it then. Just to be safe. If you ready for it, it might not happen.

 

[GenericJim]

i dont really have anything that isnt games and redownloadable software, just if i do reinstall windows i feel like all the troubleshooting would be for nothing because i would be right back at square one with new drivers that im not sure if they work or not ya know

 

[GenericJim]

could any of this be from over tightening cpu cooler? i read that its suppose to be slighjtly over finger tight, but i went way beyond that

 

[Colif]

You might want to think about doing page 94 at some stage as I am still concerned about your BIOS details not showing in the dumps.
It might not be right

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/13MANUAL/PRIME_PROART_TUF_GAMING_AMD_AM5_Series_BIOS_EM_WEB_EN.pdf

i am not sure, it could be possible. Only had one BSOD in this thread so its hard to say, it isn't a Hardware error as such. could help to loosen it.

 

[GenericJim]

You might want to think about doing page 94 at some stage as I am still concerned about your BIOS details not showing in the dumps.
It might not be right

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/13MANUAL/PRIME_PROART_TUF_GAMING_AMD_AM5_Series_BIOS_EM_WEB_EN.pdf

i am not sure, it could be possible. Only had one BSOD in this thread so its hard to say, it isn't a Hardware error as such. could help to loosen it.

bios was updated after the crash, updated bios directly afterwards

 

[Colif]

Just run memtest and DV (not at same time) and we see what they show. 1 step at a time.

 

[GenericJim]

will start memtest when going to bed tonight, will let you know in morning when i wake up.

 

[GenericJim]

that minidump file was also before i had updated my mobo bios, so if it occurs again we can check to see if any issues are still of concern then

 

[Colif]

Ok, I remember you saying it was after the crash.

 

[GenericJim]

Question. Should I have expo on or off for memtest

 

[Colif]

looks at EXPO - https://au.pcmag.com/processors/95927/what-is-amd-expo-one-click-memory-overclocking-with-a-new-name

EXPO：AMD EXtended Profiles for Overclocking
does that give you custom profiles specific to your ram sticks?
it replaces XMP on ddr5.

https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1048855/#BB

I see one person who left it on and got 1000's of errors in memtest and then turned it off and got none

leave it on and see if you get any errors. If you do, turn it off and test again

 

[GenericJim]

I assume it’s the same as xmp just for amd cpus. In simplest terms. But okay I started it. From my understanding will take a few hours so I will lay down now and check in the morning. Hopefully I get the golden 0 for now. Then wait to see if any crashes occur then will reseat everything and see again and if so will run driver verifier. Trial and error I suppose at this point

 

[GenericJim]

I assume it’s the same as xmp just for amd cpus. In simplest terms. But okay I started it. From my understanding will take a few hours so I will lay down now and check in the morning. Hopefully I get the golden 0 for now. Then wait to see if any crashes occur then will reseat everything and see again and if so will run driver verifier. Trial and error I suppose at this point

Will memtest close when done or just stay there till I get up?

 

[Colif]

1 hour per 8gb of ram to test

I don't actually know what it does at end. The instructions we have just shows how to make and run it. From what I can see it just stays on screen until you come back.

 

[GenericJim]

1 hour per 8gb of ram to test

I don't actually know what it does at end. The instructions we have just shows how to make and run it. From what I can see it just stays on screen until you come back.

Okay, will let you know for future reference then. Thank you