Question BSOD '' PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA'' Mini dump link below

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Colif

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steamwebhelper crashed 33 times on 15th so that would cause any PC to crash I think.
And its got nothing on throne of lies or epic games launcher - never seen so many application errors.

have we checked the ram?
Try running memtest86 on each of your ram sticks, one stick at a time, up to 4 passes. Only error count you want is 0, any higher could be cause of the BSOD. Remove/replace ram sticks with errors. Memtest is created as a bootable USB so that you don’t need windows to run it
 

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steamwebhelper crashed 33 times on 15th so that would cause any PC to crash I think.
And its got nothing on throne of lies or epic games launcher - never seen so many application errors.

have we checked the ram?
Try running memtest86 on each of your ram sticks, one stick at a time, up to 4 passes. Only error count you want is 0, any higher could be cause of the BSOD. Remove/replace ram sticks with errors. Memtest is created as a bootable USB so that you don’t need windows to run it

i have done that test months ago when i was having lots of BSOD and i didnt get any erros

when i upgraded my wireless and bluetooth drivers back then ,Crashes stopped for a long time
 
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This is the First BSOD after i clean installed win 10 , it happened while playing rainbow 6.
My bluetooth and wifi drivers are those that come from windows updater , but they are newer than those on Asus web , My Graphic card is up to date .
MY spec:

CPU :I7 7700k
GPU :Asus strix geforce 1080 8 GB
Motherboard : ASUS Z270g
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 2800 MHZ v series
Power supply thermaltake Smart SE 730 watt

win 10 pro


Link :https://www.dropbox.com/sh/42a2z36yflprvlz/AADlo7Zt-6DAhSaS09mokWAoa?dl=0
 

gardenman

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I ran the new dump file through the debugger and got the following information: https://bulkiesttry.htmlpasta.com/

File information:051820-5656-01.dmp (May 18 2020 - 12:15:39)
Bugcheck:ATTEMPTED_WRITE_TO_READONLY_MEMORY (BE)
Probably caused by:memory_corruption (Process: RainbowSix.exe)
Uptime:0 Day(s), 13 Hour(s), 16 Min(s), and 58 Sec(s)

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Colif

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That is NOT caused by LAN drivers. (Yay?)
It involves the Nvidia drivers instead. I am not sure if they are the blame or just involved. As it seems it was trying to write info to disk instead.

Do you ssd or hdd? What brand are they?
 

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That is NOT caused by LAN drivers. (Yay?)
It involves the Nvidia drivers instead. I am not sure if they are the blame or just involved. As it seems it was trying to write info to disk instead.

Do you ssd or hdd? What brand are they?

I have ssd ,( WDC WDS240G1G0A-00SS50) i have checked multiple times for its health using Seatools from Seagate and others apps , and its good .

i dont think that Nvidia driver is the cause , i have the latest version and the crashes happened on other versions as well , im suspecting Realtek Audio driver , i used DDU for uninstalling graphic driver and i noticed that i have 2 sound drivers , one from Realtek ( i installed that from Asus web , version date to 2017 ) and the other one is from Creative ( i did not install it and i was not aware that its on my PC , i think it cames from windows update)
So i deleted Realtek Audio driver and i did not have any crashes for like 2 hours of gameplay
Im not sure if there is a conflict caused by 2 audio drivers , but if i get no crashes later , i think Realtek Audio driver is to blame , i will see what will happen.
 

Colif

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well, directx is related to sound. And there was always a small chance each time that a directx error could be sound.

Windows update shouldn't install Creative drivers unless it thinks you have one... Did you ever own any Creative hardware?
Even on a previous PC?
Ever use 3rd party driver updaters as they really good at dumping wrong drivers on systems.

I assume its not hiding in hidden devices in device manager?

Just throwing things out there, maybe you had one on last PC and your profile remembers and installs it now... it shouldn't but sync settings can do weird stuff, my pc used to swap my desktop wallpaper to 1080p at startup, I have a 4k monitor but it remembered when I had a 1080p one.
 

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well, directx is related to sound. And there was always a small chance each time that a directx error could be sound.

Windows update shouldn't install Creative drivers unless it thinks you have one... Did you ever own any Creative hardware?
Even on a previous PC?
Ever use 3rd party driver updaters as they really good at dumping wrong drivers on systems.

I assume its not hiding in hidden devices in device manager?

Just throwing things out there, maybe you had one on last PC and your profile remembers and installs it now... it shouldn't but sync settings can do weird stuff, my pc used to swap my desktop wallpaper to 1080p at startup, I have a 4k monitor but it remembered when I had a 1080p one.
im not sure about Creative driver, i uninstall it using DDU , but it didn't seen to have any files , like it simply get deleted and no logs showed what was deleted in DDU , anyways i got another crash

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/42a2z36yflprvlz/AADlo7Zt-6DAhSaS09mokWAoa?dl=0
 

gardenman

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I ran the dump file through the debugger and got the following information: https://donatednet.htmlpasta.com/

File information:051920-5546-01.dmp (May 19 2020 - 15:35:48)
Bugcheck:IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (A)
Probably caused by:memory_corruption (Process: System)
Uptime:0 Day(s), 3 Hour(s), 44 Min(s), and 32 Sec(s)

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Colif

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Can some things stop repeating?

ndiswan!NdisWanFreeOpenCB+0x6a
ndiswan = LAN again. I can just tell without looking... okay, I check just to make sure...
NDISWAN is a system-supplied NDIS intermediate driver that provides functionality such as data compression, encryption, loopback, and simple PPP framing that is used by WAN miniport drivers.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/network/ndiswan-overview
ndis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Driver_Interface_Specification
wan = Wide Area Network.

Guess I don't need to ask what you use again :)
Jan 19 2020Qcamain10x64.sysQualcomm Atheros Network Adapter driver

So, btw, Intel just bought the company that owns Killer so maybe sometime in future when we suggest people use Killer for Qualcomm chipsets, we will point them at intel and have to explain again :)
 

snowcat01

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Can some things stop repeating?

ndiswan!NdisWanFreeOpenCB+0x6a
ndiswan = LAN again. I can just tell without looking... okay, I check just to make sure...
NDISWAN is a system-supplied NDIS intermediate driver that provides functionality such as data compression, encryption, loopback, and simple PPP framing that is used by WAN miniport drivers.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/network/ndiswan-overview
ndis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Driver_Interface_Specification
wan = Wide Area Network.

Guess I don't need to ask what you use again :)
Jan 19 2020Qcamain10x64.sysQualcomm Atheros Network Adapter driver

So, btw, Intel just bought the company that owns Killer so maybe sometime in future when we suggest people use Killer for Qualcomm chipsets, we will point them at intel and have to explain again :)
Hehe :) this is getting frustrating , i noticed in past dump file that asio.sys driver is running dated to 22/08/2012 so i used autorun app to stop it running , and i updated Intel® Management Engine Driver and Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V to the latest version , and i just finished checking ram using memtest with no errors , i checked hard disk for bad sectors and also no erros, i looked into CPU tem and its ok , 85 to 88 when in demanding games ( we are having a hot wave here) . but i got another Crash , im not sure if i should post yet another link to dump file....
im kinda out of ideas here ...

what should i do with Qualcomm Atheros driver ? Its the latest version...
 

Colif

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asio.sys is okay with that date, its an Asus hardware driver, pretty much every Asus motherboard has it installed. Even new motherboards still get it.

I am starting to wonder if its a windows update that caused it, as suddenly lots of peoples lan drivers have become problems again.

You could post a question on https://www.tenforums.com/bsod-crashes-debugging/ and see if they have any other ideas, its not like I am giving up, but they might see things differently to me. You can link to this thread if you want, some of them know me over there. I don't go there myself. One forum is enough :)
 

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asio.sys is okay with that date, its an Asus hardware driver, pretty much every Asus motherboard has it installed. Even new motherboards still get it.

I am starting to wonder if its a windows update that caused it, as suddenly lots of peoples lan drivers have become problems again.

You could post a question on https://www.tenforums.com/bsod-crashes-debugging/ and see if they have any other ideas, its not like I am giving up, but they might see things differently to me. You can link to this thread if you want, some of them know me over there. I don't go there myself. One forum is enough :)

Ok thanks for your help , i will try that :)