Budget build questioning power.

[freeprince]

I was looking to upgrade my fx6100 cpu to fx 8350 cpu and I am wondering if power will be an issue.

Here are my components currently:


ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 || AMD FX-6100 || NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti FTW || 16GB(2x8)
DDR3 1866 G.SKILL SNIPER || 475W Diablotek PSU || Thermaltake Xaser III V2000A

The only thing I have recently changed from this is adding the 1TB Seagate SSHD ST10000DX001-1NS162.

I can't buy top of the line, I also did see a 750watt evga on sale at new egg 80plus bronze it was like 38dollars after rebate, but, really don't want to buy anything unless I absolutely have to.

My psu is not 80plus it's 78% efficiency so I really don't care what anyone has to say about 80 plus certified. It runs crystal cool. I just need to know if It can tolerate the power load of the stronger processor or if I'm going to HAVE TO buy a better power supply.

 

[logainofhades]

CX 750's use poor quality capacitors that cannot handle much heat. Just because a PSU is rated at so many watts, doesn't mean that it is going to properly output that wattage. There is also stability, of power delivery, to consider, which lower quality units can struggle with. The problem, in this whole thread, has had nothing to do with wattage, but of quality.

 

[freeprince]

imo don't see why I would prefer those to a 750 watt corsair

Please read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

It explains what makes a good and bad PSU. Wattage is really not the "be all end all" with PSUs. Neither is 80+/Bronze/Silver/Gold etc.

You want quality components inside, protection from spikes/surges and a variety of other things.

It's not the brand that's on the PSU you have the worry about, it's who makes the units & the components used.

Corsair don't make their own, Channel Well, SeaSonic & Flextronic (amongst others) make PSUs for Corsair to brand.
SeaSonic are a great example as, not only do they make quality units for others (XFX, Corsairs 'good' PSUs and others), they also brand & release PSUs themselves under their own name.

Compare that to a poor PSU manufacturer - say HEC (EVGA's 'lesser' quality PSUs, Thermaltakes poor quality PSUs and others). They "hide behind" known brands and don't release their own.

yea I read this I understand all that i'm just frusterated. I don't want to buy crap but I don't necessarily need top tier, my gaming habits are not powerful gaming, i'm pretty casual, i'm not going to benchmark my machine so I often wonder are they even referring to people like me or are they talking about the gamer that is on twitch and recording his games as he plays them running in extreme overclock with cooling modules and crossfire/SLI. Because i'm not THAT guy.

 

[logainofhades]

Thing is, that we are not recommending top tier. Top tier would be EVGA G2/GS. Tier 2 units are still quality, but without the higher price tag.

 

[freeprince]

Even if you were not upgrading the cpu, I would recommend getting rid of that fire hazard of a PSU. Get a tier 1 or tier 2 unit, 500w+, asap. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

over 80 dollars. I'm not making things up, but thanks anyway guys. way to make me look like i'm lying.

 

[Barty1884]

over 80 dollars. I'm not making things up, but thanks anyway guys. way to make me look like i'm lying.

I'm not understanding the $80 comment? The ones linked are around $50 and both are Tier 2.

Unless, like me you're in Canada? Then your $80 comment would make sense.

 

[logainofhades]

I am not sure where the $80 is coming from either. Your system is fine with a 500-550w, tier 2 unit. The ones suggested are not even close to $80. If you want to keep using that junk diablotek PSU, that is your choice. Just don't come crying when it dies, and takes your system with it. If you want to get that CX 750w, that is also your choice, but don't expect it to last very long.

 

[freeprince]

UPDATE: not sure if anyone cares, but I took the advice of the people on the forum and picked up a 650 watt bronze 80 plus SMART thermaltake. I could have gone with a tier 3 but it was only 500 watts and I figured I really wouldn't be pushing it hard at all anyway. I feel a lot safer now.

 

[Barty1884]

UPDATE: not sure if anyone cares, but I took the advice of the people on the forum and picked up a 650 watt bronze 80 plus SMART thermaltake. I could have gone with a tier 3 but it was only 500 watts and I figured I really wouldn't be pushing it hard at all anyway. I feel a lot safer now.

Did you ever actually read the links I sent?
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

Thermaltake SMART huh? A Tier 4 PSU, similar in quality as the Corsair CX unit you were advised against/talked out of?

Doubt it'll last very long, but at least if/when it goes it has some element of protection & you'll likely be limitted to a dead PSU, rather than a dead PSU that also took your motherboard or more components with it.

Out of curiosity, how much did you pay for this PSU?
And will you ever be willing to clarify where you kept quoting $80 from? That still bugs me. Nobody recommended an $80 PSU, yet you continually stated $80 was too high.....

 

[freeprince]

UPDATE: not sure if anyone cares, but I took the advice of the people on the forum and picked up a 650 watt bronze 80 plus SMART thermaltake. I could have gone with a tier 3 but it was only 500 watts and I figured I really wouldn't be pushing it hard at all anyway. I feel a lot safer now.

Did you ever actually read the links I sent?
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

Thermaltake SMART huh? A Tier 4 PSU, similar in quality as the Corsair CX unit you were advised against/talked out of?

Doubt it'll last very long, but at least if/when it goes it has some element of protection & you'll likely be limitted to a dead PSU, rather than a dead PSU that also took your motherboard or more components with it.

Out of curiosity, how much did you pay for this PSU?
And will you ever be willing to clarify where you kept quoting $80 from? That still bugs me. Nobody recommended an $80 PSU, yet you continually stated $80 was too high.....

at this point i'm not sure if you're really talking about tech or if you're just trying to be a prick. Many of the ones on the list tier 2 and 3 are very expensive. That's my point. The ones that they had their were tier 4, they had the corsair CX and the Thermaltake. I chose one. Not everyone who buys these has a bad experience. As I said, i'm not an extreme overclocker/tuner. I doubt I will have a bad experience with this PSU, but, if it's like you said and the PSU goes and it damages nothing else it has a warranty, so I can just get another one.

To answer your other question the CX corsair was 80 dollars and the Thermaltake was 55 dollars.

I have read reviews on it, they're not that bad, not everyone talks about the psu this way that's why I'm taking everything you say with a grain of salt, because either a large mass of people have no idea what they're talking about or your views are a little harsh compared to the experiences of the masses.

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Standard-Bronze-ATX12V-SP-650P/dp/B00B6A8N3O 4.5 stars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153173 5 eggs.

Also I was able to price match through Best Buy to get it down to just 53.xx dollars and tax
I thought I had mentioned it but since I don't see it I will explain my reasoning. I cancelled a pre-order for Best Buy and had a gift card so I had to buy from Best Buy and the selection was only a few. I went on my phone and read up on the ones that were on the rack and chose what I believed to be the best bang for my buck. Don't really care if it satisfies you at this point, it satisfies me. Have a nice day.

 

[Barty1884]

I'm certainly not trying to be a pr*ck, trust me, you'd know if I was.

Ultimately, you came here seeking advice, got a lot of it from many different forum members & chose not to follow it.
And now have a horrible attitude.

As an FYI for the most part, Amazon & NewEgg "ratings" come from buyers who are responding to things like
"do you feel like you paid a good price" (read to most consumers as "cheaper than somewhere else")
"is it as described",
"shipping as expected" etc.

Not the performance or quality of a PSU - those are not the places to look for those kind of reviews. You want Reviews from Toms, JohnnyGuru and Anandtech (there are others, of course) for PSU quality.

Sure, some of the Tier 1 & 2 PSUs are expensive. Some of them are more than affordable though.

For example, the SeaSonic S12 620W PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096&cm_re=seasonic-_-17-151-096-_-Product

$60 and Tier 2.

That would've been your best bet at the pricepoint. You choose to buy at BestBuy, you choose to buy poor quality components for a 'cheap' price, then so be it.

I wish you the best of luck with the PSU you bought. I sincerely hope you do get "bang for your buck" out of it, and not just "bang"....but, you know.

Please remember in future, if you ask for advice, at least consider it or rationalize why you disagree.