Budget Gaming/Video Editing Build: ~$600 AUD - help please

[jonc8611]

Approximate Purchase Date: This week

Budget Range: around $500-600 AUD

System Usage: Light gaming (mostly simulators - Assetto Corsa, Automobilista, BeamNG etc), video editing and photo editing

Parts to Upgrade: CPU, M/B, RAM, GPU (currently Core 2 Duo E8500, EP45-DS3, 4GB DDR2, GTX660). Will be keeping Antec EA500D PSU, Cooler Master case and existing SSD/HDD's.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: umart.com.au / msy.com.au

Location: Australia

Parts Preferences: No preference

Overclocking: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Why Are You Upgrading: Can't run latest BeamNG, can't race in Automobilista with more than 10 cars on the track

Have been doing a lot of reading and catching up on the latest components, but now quite confused as to which way to go.

Was originally planning to do G4560/GTX 1050 Ti build, however now I don't know if overclocked Ryzen 3 1200 would be better for the video editing side?

These were the two build sheets I had in mind:

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/TDnZgL

CPU: *Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($79.00 @ Umart)
Motherboard: *ASRock - B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.00 @ Umart)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($145.00 @ Umart)
Video Card: *GALAX - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Video Card ($179.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $502.00

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/CVf63F

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($138.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: *ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.00 @ Scorptec)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($145.00 @ Umart)
Video Card: *GALAX - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Video Card ($179.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $551.00

 

[imsqam]

No contest, go for the 1200, much faster quad-core speed which will help with video editing and also gaming when the CPU is taxed.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-1200/3892vs3931

And have you looked at the MSY website recently? Are you sure you want to deal with this company? That's pretty damning disclaimer about fraud that the FEDERAL COURT OF AUSTRALIA ordered to be place on their home page.

 

[jonc8611]

Yeah, MSY aren’t the best, but they are cheap. They lied about your rights as a consumer for refunds etc.

The 1200 sounds great, but there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of memory that works or am I getting caught up in these lists?

Looking at the ASRock AB350 Gaming K4 with 8GB RAM. Single sided duel channel is best?

 

[imsqam]

Priority for gaming machines is GPU>>CPU>>RAM>>Storage. So you would choose an improvement in the CPU over RAM. But your statement confuses me a little, the mobo is really what decides what RAM you will use, not the CPU. As long as the CPU is listed as a supported CPU by the mobo manufacturer then whatever RAM types are listed as supported by the mobo will work. The mobo manufacturer has taken care of all the CPU to RAM communication issues. If PCPartPicker says it is okay then in the vast majority of cases you will be okay.

ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 is a really good mobo if a little pricey for this build. But if plan on pursuing a significant overclock it will be a good choice. But if you do plan on a significant overclock then you will want to bump up the RAM speed a bit. This mobo supports DDR4-1866 / 2133 / 2400 / 2666 / 2933 / 3200 RAM.

Dual channel is better although not a great difference, about 2-5% faster than running in single channel. If you plan on using the integrated graphics it is a much greater difference but you have a discrete GPU.

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/s99JFd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/s99JFd/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($138.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($133.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($159.00 @ Umart)
Video Card: *GALAX - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Video Card ($165.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $595.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-28 00:19 AEDT+1100

 

[jetmcintyre04]

I'd say get the Ryzen 3 1200, the G.Skill 8GB RAM, the 1050Ti, and for the Motherboard, get the ASUS Prime B350 Plus for $128.
With the Ryzen 3, you can overclock it to 3.9Ghz at 1.25V which will dramatically boost the performance.

 

[jonc8611]

Thank you both for your answers. The thought of over clocking is fun, but I just don’t have the time anymore. I think that a system which works out of the box is quite important.

What are your thoughts on i5 7500 + MSI B250 + 8Gb DDR4 2133 + GTX 1050 Ti?

 

[imsqam]

I do not think that the i5-7500 and GTX 1050 Ti is a good combination, the CPU overpowers the GPU and you actually want the GPU to be a bit stronger than the CPU. A Ryzen 1200 plus GTX 1060-3GB will be much stronger and is actually a little cheaper. Check out the 3DMark scores below, no contest. Some of the top scores for the 1200 are overclocked but the first non-overclocked score is 4010 vs 2820 as the top score for the 7500. The 7500 cannot reach its potential as it is constrained by the weak GPU.

3DMark scores for Ryzen 1200 & GTX 1060-3GB: http://

3DMark scores for i5-7500 & GTX 1050 Ti: http://

i5-7500 & GTX 1050 Ti Build
PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HB34XH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HB34XH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($252.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($138.00 @ Umart)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card ($199.00 @ Scorptec)
Total: $698.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-29 02:41 AEDT+1100

Ryzen 1200 & GTX 1060-3GB Build
PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/JG4MPs
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/JG4MPs/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($138.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($133.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($129.00 @ Umart)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Dual Video Card ($255.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $655.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-29 02:51 AEDT+1100