[SOLVED] Build comparison ( Need input !)

[Mcleese902]

I have the following components but only enough money to buy 1 motherboard . I need some input on which route to go .

System one :
i3-6100
16 GB ddr4
Asus gtx 750ti OC

System two :
I7-3770
16gb ddr3
Asus gtx 750ti OC

Thanks as always

 

[Hellfire13]

Go with the i7-3770. Its a much better processor for every task.

 

[Barty1884]

The 3770 would likely be the better performer all round and (theoretically) in-game, but would be limited by the 750TI.

Given that, and the fact you'd be investing a decent amount of money into an older board to support the 3770, I'd just pick up a board for the i3 and be done with it.

Selling the DDR3 and 3770 should net you a decent amount of money too (and the 750TI is worth a little bit), which would get you some money for a GPU upgrade...
A 3770 sells regularly on eBay for ~$75 USD, 2x8GB DDR3 should be $40 USD easy. 750TI might get you ~$40.
So, you could feasibly have ~$150 for a GPU upgrade (which could net you an RX570 pretty comfortably), or ~$100 for other upgrades if the 750TI is sufficient for your needs.

 

[Mcleese902]

The 3770 would likely be the better performer all round and (theoretically) in-game, but would be limited by the 750TI.

Given that, and the fact you'd be investing a decent amount of money into an older board to support the 3770, I'd just pick up a board for the i3 and be done with it.

Selling the DDR3 and 3770 should net you a decent amount of money too (and the 750TI is worth a little bit), which would get you some money for a GPU upgrade...

Ill be purchasing a 1155 board from someone in my town for 60$ , where as the H110 board will cost me around 85 . The gtx is there just cause I need something lol . It's next to be upgraded . So with this further information would you still choose the i3? With future upgrades would the 3770 be the more sound investment ?

 

[logainofhades]

What is the speed of that DDR4?

 

[Barty1884]

Ill be purchasing a 1155 board from someone in my town for 60$ , where as the H110 board will cost me around 85 . The gtx is there just cause I need something lol . It's next to be upgraded . So with this further information would you still choose the i3? With future upgrades would the 3770 be the more sound investment ?

$60 USD? or what are you looking at in local currency?

Honestly, $85 (assuming USD) seems expensive for an H110 board....
Yes, I'd still choose the i3 in most cases, as it's a relatively modern platform. The 3770 certainly would outperform - but putting money into an older platform (unless super cheap) doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

The 3770 + board is end of the road, there's no upgrading from that. Vs the i3 which would at least allow a 6700/7700 and has DDR4 that will still be viable for future upgrades.

For raw performance out of the gate, the 3770 is the better route to go, but it's all going to depend on your use-case.

 

[justin.m.beauvais]

I'd go with the i7. The 3770 is still a reasonable performer. The thing is, the top performers on the same platform as your i3 are the 6700K or the 7700K, which are not really a lot faster than the 3770 (like 30% or so), and are going to cost a LOT more than a motherboard. If you were to sell the 6100, DDR4, and the 750Ti you could easily get something like an RX 570 and well more than double your graphics performance.

An i7 3770, with 16GB of RAM, and an RX 570 would be a good mid range gaming machine.

There are arguments that can be made for both sides, but if your goal is maximum performance for minimum dollar, going with the i7 3770 is the way to go.

 

[Mcleese902]

$60 USD? or what are you looking at in local currency?

Honestly, $85 (assuming USD) seems expensive for an H110 board....
Yes, I'd still choose the i3 in most cases, as it's a relatively modern platform. The 3770 certainly would outperform - but putting money into an older platform (unless super cheap) doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

The 3770 + board is end of the road, there's no upgrading from that. Vs the i3 which would at least allow a 6700/7700 and has DDR4 that will still be viable for future upgrades.

For raw performance out of the gate, the 3770 is the better route to go, but it's all going to depend on your use-case.

My prices are CAD . I am more so just looking for performance out of the gate . I'm moving to the city soon and that comes with a muh higher salary for better toys . Thanks for the input !

 

[Barty1884]

$60 CAD isn't too bad at all actually, assuming it's not an OEM board (Dell, Lenovo etc).
For a performance now setup, I'd opt for the 3770, DDR3, $60 board and sell the rest. Should still be able to recoup enough to acquire an RX570.

 

[cryoburner]

The i7-3770 is clearly the better processor. It should offer similar performance-per-core as that newer i3, but double the cores and threads. If you are planning on running recent games on the system, the 3770 should be able to handle them reasonably well, but the 6100 will tend to choke on some titles that expect at least a quad-core. Either processor will be significantly held back by a 750 Ti in most recent games, but if you plan on getting a better graphics card, the i7 would give the upgraded system more room to stretch its legs.

The only advantage to going with the i3-6100 would be if you planned to upgrade the processor to something better than either of these, since you could reuse the RAM, as newer processors all require DDR4. However, anything faster that is compatible with the 6100's motherboard is arguably overpriced compared to newer processor that offer more cores at any given price point. So you would likely end up replacing the motherboard to upgrade the CPU either way.

 

[Mcleese902]

$60 CAD isn't too bad at all actually, assuming it's not an OEM board (Dell, Lenovo etc).
For a performance now setup, I'd opt for the 3770, DDR3, $60 board and sell the rest. Should still be able to recoup enough to acquire an RX570.

Yeah no oem non sense lol . And rx570 is the gpu I wanna go for ? I've just recently got my head around CPUS , chip sets, and all that . My knowledge with gpus is about a 7/100

 

[Barty1884]

Yeah no oem non sense lol . And rx570 is the gpu I wanna go for ? I've just recently got my head around CPUS , chip sets, and all that . My knowledge with gpus is about a 7/100

It depends. A 3770 certainly could pair well with stronger GPUs, but the 570 is a pretty good sweet spot for 1080p gaming, and is a great value for money, especially used.
New, they run about $200 CAD.... but used, I've picked them up for anywhere from $75-$110, depending on the deal. Conveniently, should be in the same ballpark you could move the unused hardware for.

 

[Mcleese902]

It depends. A 3770 certainly could pair well with stronger GPUs, but the 570 is a pretty good sweet spot for 1080p gaming, and is a great value for money, especially used.
New, they run about $200 CAD.... but used, I've picked them up for anywhere from $75-$110, depending on the deal. Conveniently, should be in the same ballpark you could move the unused hardware for.

Right now I can get a gtx 1060 evea model for 200 could probably talk them down to 175-150 . Or a rx580 for 180 could probably talk down to 140. So which would be the better outcome ?

 

[Barty1884]

Very similar in performance (assuming a 6GB 1060), so the 580 for the lower price would be the better option.
Make sure your PSU is up to the task though, you haven't mentioned what PSU you have...

 

[Mcleese902]

Very similar in performance (assuming a 6GB 1060), so the 580 for the lower price would be the better option.
Make sure your PSU is up to the task though, you haven't mentioned what PSU you have...

Antec 650 will be used when it's all together . I have a 500w no name that's used just to test stuff . Ive been told alot of here about the taboo of xheap psu

 

[Hellfire13]

1060 and 580 are pretty similar. Nothing much between them. You can go with either.

 

[justin.m.beauvais]

Honestly, I'd just look at the RX 570. For the price for performance it can't be beat. Going up to the 1060 6GB or RX 580 will get you less than 15% more performance, for a fair bit more money. I'm seeing a $40-ish USD difference on Amazon between the 570 and 580, and the 1060 as always is more expensive. Now, the used market might be different, but the prices generally scale. It really comes down to the best deal you can get.

 

[punkncat]

Just going to throw this out there:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6100/1979vs3511

The 3770 is a higher performer all the way around, aside from base clock speed. It is also a 4 core (base) CPU as opposed to the two core in the newer i3, and that will make quite a difference. Especially if some mitigation happens that causes Intel to want you not to run hyperthreading in light of some of the recently uncovered vulnerabilities. For the pricing on that local motherboard it really would be the best near future way to go and should serve you well for another few generations.

I also agree with the above concerning the 580 vs the 1060...go with the cheaper one as the performance is too close to call. Your PSU will be up to the task.

 

[Mcleese902]

Just going to throw this out there:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6100/1979vs3511

The 3770 is a higher performer all the way around, aside from base clock speed. It is also a 4 core (base) CPU as opposed to the two core in the newer i3, and that will make quite a difference. Especially if some mitigation happens that causes Intel to want you not to run hyperthreading in light of some of the recently uncovered vulnerabilities. For the pricing on that local motherboard it really would be the best near future way to go and should serve you well for another few generations.

I also agree with the above concerning the 580 vs the 1060...go with the cheaper one as the performance is too close to call. Your PSU will be up to the task.

Thanks everyone for all the help . It really is very appreciated . I'll post the full build once my case arrives .
Also I don't play bet high demand games ; far cry primal , ark survival evolved , D3 and similar titles . So looking forward to playing on somehing higher then low low low settings . With the painful onboard graphics I've been playing on .

 

[punkncat]

If you have been playing on integrated, then that 750ti is going to feel like a Cadillac in comparison. They are a quite capable older card for the price. Still a lot of them in use according to Steam.