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[julienruc]

Hi all,

I haven't been keeping up with the news in the world of PC building over the last few years and I saw that it's moved forward quite a bit. We're up to implementing DDR5 RAM and AMD moving out of AM4 as well, really quite exciting!

I am currently building a PC and I wanted to know if there are better/newer alternatives that I may not be aware of. I would love to hear your input.
My budget is 20 million IDR, which is roughly 1,200 Euros // 1,350 USD. The budget is for the tower price only.

The goal of this PC is a mix of gaming and photo/video editing. I am a Youtuber and I want to build myself a home PC that can allow me to do some work outside of the office as well as some moderate gaming.
Currently looking to play Baldur's Gate III so I am hoping it can hold up on 1440p relatively well and I will be playing similar games like that in the future.
More importantly, I will be using a dual monitor setup and I am the type to have dozens and dozens of windows and tabs open, it MUST be able to run multiple Adobe software open simultaneously, and I hope the PC can do some rendering as I will sometimes render 1080p videos from home.

Current build (using EU PCPartpicker as prices are more in-line with Indonesia):
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€239.00 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€69.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€178.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory (€91.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: KFA2 (1-Click OC) GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB Video Card (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (€90.28 @ Galaxus)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V850 V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€159.30 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan (€9.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1297.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-10 10:38 CEST+0200

My current thoughts:
- RAM: I know nothing when it comes to DDR5, any things I need to watch out for?
- RAM: I may be adding an extra 32Gb and I'm unsure how stable it will be to run 4 sticks.
- Storage: I will add more as needed, and I have a few HDDs lying around for data storage.
- GPU: I know Nvidia's offering tend to be better for the Adobe suite, but to what extent? Should I consider AMD cards?
- GPU: Would it be worth running a 3070Ti instead given it theoretically performs better in games? Or would the new architecture provide better for work?

Any recommendations are appreciated.

 

[Lutfij]

If you want 64GB's of ram, make sure you've got a dual stick layout, as opposed to a quad stick kit, since more sticks of ram will add stress to the integrated memory controller in the processor. Most have had issues with getting 4 sticks of ram to work on the new platforms. Over subsequent BIOS updates, that should be alleviated.

If you're buying a new system, might as well buy the new architecture on the GPU arena, if you had an RTX3070Ti, I'd have asked you to stick to it and not waste money for something later in generation.

 

[julienruc]

If you want 64GB's of ram, make sure you've got a dual stick layout, as opposed to a quad stick kit, since more sticks of ram will add stress to the integrated memory controller in the processor. Most have had issues with getting 4 sticks of ram to work on the new platforms. Over subsequent BIOS updates, that should be alleviated.

If you're buying a new system, might as well buy the new architecture on the GPU arena, if you had an RTX3070Ti, I'd have asked you to stick to it and not waste money for something later in generation.

Based on the description of usage alone, 32Gb should be plenty wouldn't it?

 

[geofelt]

Ryzen is very sensitive to ram.
Check that whatever ram kit you buy is supported on the motherboard ram qvl list for your processor.
Or, by the ram vendor explicitly.

If you ever want 64gb of ram, buy a 64gb ram kit up front.
Such tasks as photo editing can use ram to avoid workfile i/o.
More is better.
Ram must be in a single matched kit to run properly.
4 stick kits are more difficult for a motherboard to manage.
Adding ram, even the same part number does not constitute a match.
The same specs can be made up of entirely different components.

 

[Moonstick2]

If you ever want 64gb of ram, buy a 64gb ram kit up front.

Or, buy 32 GB of RAM now, and then later down the line buy a 64 GB RAM kit and offset the cost by selling the 32 GB kit.

Current prices for the kind of RAM the OP chose are €92 2x 16GB, €208 4x 16GB, €196 2x 32GB. So it depends on whether the OP's budget can stretch to the extra €100 (IDR equivalent), or they'd be better off leaving it for a while.

Personally I think if the OP has the extra €100 they'd be better off putting it towards extra storage. 1 TB isn't much for a PC used for both gaming and video editing; yes they've got some extra HDDs lying around but HDDs are going to be a hell of a lot slower than an NVMe drive. I think 64 GB + HDD is going to be a lot slower to work with than 32 GB + NVMe.

 

[julienruc]

You guys seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on RAM, so I'll spend some more time looking that up and looking at boards also.

Appreciate the concern @Moonstick2, I'm not really worried about storage. It's a minor concern for me at this stage.

 

[ilukey77]

steer clear of the 4060 8gb wait for the 7800xt or go a 4070ti 8gb is a scam in 2023 !!
( im not 100% on Nvidia strengths over AMD in production work ive briefly read that Nvidia beats out AMD in some production work not sure if thats video editing or not or has a better tool set )

check to see if the ak620 fits the mobo okay dual tower coolers can foul on ram case should be fine for tower height
cl30 6000 is the sweet spot for zen 4 cpu's

And maybe just maybe a 7700 non x might be a better buy over the 7600x while obviously more expensive the non x cpus are slightly cheaper and easier to cool !!

 

[PC Tailor]

steer clear of the 4060 8gb wait for the 7800xt or go a 4070ti 8gb is a scam in 2023 !!
( im not 100% on Nvidia strengths over AMD in production work ive briefly read that Nvidia beats out AMD in some production work not sure if thats video editing or not or has a better tool set )

check to see if the ak620 fits the mobo okay dual tower coolers can foul on ram case should be fine for tower height
cl30 6000 is the sweet spot for zen 4 cpu's

And maybe just maybe a 7700 non x might be a better buy over the 7600x while obviously more expensive the non x cpus are slightly cheaper and easier to cool !!

NVIDIA almost definitely comes out on top in a lot of productivity based systems, namely video production for example. DLSS and CUDA cores offer a boon with video production and often NVIDIAs codec are better for encoding and decoding. The general rule of thumb as I still believe it to be is that AMD offers great value for money, especially for the likes of gaming, NVIDIA still tops the editing market though. AMD aren't necessarily desperately trying to compete in that region, at least not until very recently.

This fan won't foul on the RAM modules as the Corsair modules are fairly low clearance and the AK620 allows up to 47mm.

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Definitely like some of the users have stated, go dual module kit over quad. If you have the budget, I don't see why you wouldn't go straight to 64GB first as you're better buying the whole kit at once. But you could always buy 32GB, assess your performance, and then change to a 64GB later if you needed and sell the original pair. More costly but more adaptable.

Also I'd consider saving a bit more money and getting this PSU for a bit less over the CM: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product...d-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-850

 

[kizo]

Premiere Pro , Da Vinci Resolve , something else?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

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[julienruc]

Thank you all. Purchases are through, you've been great!

 

[ilukey77]

NVIDIA almost definitely comes out on top in a lot of productivity based systems, namely video production for example. DLSS and CUDA cores offer a boon with video production and often NVIDIAs codec are better for encoding and decoding. The general rule of thumb as I still believe it to be is that AMD offers great value for money, especially for the likes of gaming, NVIDIA still tops the editing market though. AMD aren't necessarily desperately trying to compete in that region, at least not until very recently.

This fan won't foul on the RAM modules as the Corsair modules are fairly low clearance and the AK620 allows up to 47mm.

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Definitely like some of the users have stated, go dual module kit over quad. If you have the budget, I don't see why you wouldn't go straight to 64GB first as you're better buying the whole kit at once. But you could always buy 32GB, assess your performance, and then change to a 64GB later if you needed and sell the original pair. More costly but more adaptable.

Also I'd consider saving a bit more money and getting this PSU for a bit less over the CM: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product...d-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-850

yeah ive read Nvidia are better at production work in alot of cases and Intel does certain production work really really well ..

I think the 4090 is a monster and the only Nvidia card worth buying everything else is either over priced and / or under V rammed ..

Even RT is a hit and miss system to a degree !!

Maybe im a little bias towards AMD myself but ive had nothing but decent GPU's and CPU's from AMD since my first build 4 years ago 3700x 5700xt red devil !!

so why not keep buying what has done me well !

 

[julienruc]

yeah ive read Nvidia are better at production work in alot of cases and Intel does certain production work really really well ..

I think the 4090 is a monster and the only Nvidia card worth buying everything else is either over priced and / or under V rammed ..

Even RT is a hit and miss system to a degree !!

Maybe im a little bias towards AMD myself but ive had nothing but decent GPU's and CPU's from AMD since my first build 4 years ago 3700x 5700xt red devil !!

so why not keep buying what has done me well !

Yeah, I'm quite the AMD fanboy myself, I've got a 5600X + 6800XT and looking to upgrade one of those next year depending on the offerings. Also works great the adobe suite, I've just not followed the past 2-3 (maybe even 4) years in the tech world, so I pretty much have dinosaur knowledge at this point.
However, I had to put my BIAS aside and think about what was best for him. Gotta give credit where it's due, u know 😛