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[flambo]

Hi
I am doing a quick research for a new build that is meant mostly for gaming.
The starting point for this build is my RTX3060ti which i already own.
The components here are supposed to be functional for a good gaming experience and be compatible with eachother.
I am mostly concerned with general compatabilty, and also for best\good value for money for the main components (cpu, motherboard, etc.)
Any tips or feedback for improvement would be welcome.

pcpartpicker link: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hj6MHG

 

[Eximo]

I assume you already have the 500GB 980 Pro?

I don't see much sense in getting a 1TB 990 Pro unless you plan a lot of serious file transfers. I would go for a 2TB SSD with dram cache, PCIe 3.0 or 4.0 for mostly gaming.

Motherboard seems a little expensive. Any particular reasoning behind that choice? Available at Amazon for $200

 

[COLGeek]

Why the 2 SSDs and not just a single 2TB SSD?

 

[flambo]

I assume you already have the 500GB 980 Pro?

I don't see much sense in getting a 1TB 990 Pro unless you plan a lot of serious file transfers. I would go for a 2TB SSD with dram cache, PCIe 3.0 or 4.0 for mostly gaming.

Motherboard seems a little expensive. Any particular reasoning behind that choice? Available at Amazon for $200

only reasoning for getting two ssd drives is for having a smaller dedicated ssd for OS, i gather you suggest this is unnecessary?
what SSD would you recommend instead?

as for the motherboard, no particular reasoning behind that choice, simply need a good MB that would be up to par with the GPU and CPU combo

 

[Eximo]

In that case, I agree, a single 2TB SSD is better suited, nothing wrong with the 990 Pro, though there are cheaper drives. You have a limited number of M.2 slots, no need to go for smaller drives. When you run out of space you can get another 2TB or even 4TB drive rather than having the hassle of replacing smaller drives.

Well don't overpay for that board. It is fine at $200.

Might also recommend DDR5 6000 CL30 as a better middle ground memory speed to target. Also 6400 CL32 that is quite often reasonably priced.

 

[flambo]

In that case, I agree, a single 2TB SSD is better suited, nothing wrong with the 990 Pro, though there are cheaper drives. You have a limited number of M.2 slots, no need to go for smaller drives. When you run out of space you can get another 2TB or even 4TB drive rather than having the hassle of replacing smaller drives.

Well don't overpay for that board. It is fine at $200.

Might also recommend DDR5 6000 CL30 as a better middle ground memory speed to target. Also 6400 CL32 that is quite often reasonably priced.

Thanks for the helpful tips

I get your explenation regarding the SSD choice, will find a single 2TB SSD instead.
I will also look at RAM alternatives according to your suggestions.

other than that, does this build seem fine to you? any other tips?

 

[Eximo]

Might want to double check the number of fans you will end up with. Not much beyond that.

There are cheaper PSUs, but the RM750x is a good choice for a mid-range build. As long as you don't intend to drop a 450W GPU in there.

There are alternative chassis, but then you really would want to change the PSU (connectors are on the side) But I tend not to make alternate suggestions as long as the case has decent airflow.

 

[logainofhades]

I personally like having a separate drive for OS, and one for games. Frankly you have a lot of overspending going on in this build, that hinders potential performance for the same money.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($344.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($102.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Video Card
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.00 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1144.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 14:24 EDT-0400

An AMD rig to consider. You get the fastest gaming cpu you can buy, and an upgrade path.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($383.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Pro RS ATX AM5 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Video Card
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.00 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1175.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 14:22 EDT-0400

 

[ohio_buckeye]

There are also z690 boards available under $150 on Newegg. If they have bios flashback I think I’d consider going that way.

 

[Eximo]

I looked yesterday for someone, cheapest with flashback is $160, B760 board. Cheapest DDR4 with flashback is $215 which goes to show you where the price priorities are on the lower end.

Z790 for $200 is fine. Aorus Elite AX also has it, in case you wanted to get a 14th gen chip. 14700K does have 4 more e-cores and the cache to go with them.

 

[Why_Me]

Here's a few suggested changes to have a look at. The 120mm fan goes inside the back of this case for a exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($244.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($189.00 @ MSI)
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Video Card
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.19 @ Amazon)
Total: $866.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 15:02 EDT-0400

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-P-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-24m-cache-up-to-5-10-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-review

https://www.predatorstorage.com/products/predator-gm7000-pcie-4-ssd.html

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/4166

https://www.arctic.de/en/P12-PWM-PST/ACFAN00120A

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Here's one board. It may not have bios flashback though

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144503?Item=N82E16813144503

 

[35below0]

If you don't mind going with DDR4 RAM, you can grab a much cheaper previous gen z690 board. The AsRock PG Riptide is as low as $125
Feature-wise, there is little the Gaming X can offer that's superior. In fact the Gaming X is kinda terrible. I'd take the Aorus Elite X WiFi7. Or you know, the UD AC
I'm not really sure what you're trying to pay for here.

With DDR5, like @Eximo said, 6000 CL30 or 6400 CL32 is the ram to have.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I don't disagree with that. From stuff I've seen there's not a lot of difference with ddr4 3600 vs some of the ddr5.

 

[35below0]

I don't disagree with that. From stuff I've seen there's not a lot of difference with ddr4 3600 vs some of the ddr5.

It will be maybe 4-5 years before DDR4 is seriously outdated. Maybe even longer. One of my PCs has DDR3 ram, and ram is not what's holding it back (it's a gen 3 i5 3750K. Nice but old now)

But there's nothing wrong with going with DDR5, provided latency is kept to 32 (if gaming matters). It's more of a question of getting the right motherboard. NVMe gen 5 support is practically worthless, but it will add cost.

 

[logainofhades]

I looked yesterday for someone, cheapest with flashback is $160, B760 board. Cheapest DDR4 with flashback is $215 which goes to show you where the price priorities are on the lower end.

Z790 for $200 is fine. Aorus Elite AX also has it, in case you wanted to get a 14th gen chip. 14700K does have 4 more e-cores and the cache to go with them.

Asrock Z690 Extreme is a DDR4 board, with Bios Flashback, for $130. If I was building an Intel rig, with DDR4, that would be the board I would pick. Going DDR4 route, with said board would allow for a 14700k, and 64gb ram. You wouldn't need to worry about a ram upgrade, for the life of the system.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($117.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Video Card
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.00 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1104.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 16:01 EDT-0400

 

[Why_Me]

Asrock Z690 Extreme is a DDR4 board, with Bios Flashback, for $130. If I was building an Intel rig, with DDR4, that would be the board I would pick. Going DDR4 route, with said board would allow for a 14700k, and 64gb ram. You wouldn't need to worry about a ram upgrade, for the life of the system.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($117.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Video Card
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.00 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1104.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 16:01 EDT-0400

That cpu might do better with a 360 AIO.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/22.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/24.html

 

[Why_Me]

This is the same build I posted up above @flambo but with changes to the board and cpu in case you're interested in a i7.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.00 @ MSI)
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Video Card
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.19 @ Amazon)
Total: $921.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 16:08 EDT-0400

A better look at that board & cpu.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

 

[flambo]

This is the same build I posted up above @flambo but with changes to the board and cpu in case you're interested in a i7.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.00 @ MSI)
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Video Card
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.19 @ Amazon)
Total: $921.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 16:08 EDT-0400

A better look at that board & cpu.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

Thanks
this is looking like a good direction for me.

I am limited to a certain retailer that does not have all of the components above, so i made a new list based on your suggestion, with the cpu and motherboard you suggested.
I am fine with paying a little extra as long as those changes are still in line with the general direction of the build you suggested.
components changed are:
* cpu cooler
* RAM
* SSD
* PSU
* Case

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.00 @ MSI)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($113.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($167.70 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Video Card
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1050.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 19:36 EDT-0400