[SOLVED] Build for DCS

[pholahan1]

Hi All, I'm just getting into flight simulations and am going to build my setup. This is what I'm thinking of and would appreciate any suggestions/modifications.
ASUS ROG Strix Z-390-e MB, Intel i7-8600K, MSI GeForce GTX 1070, Noctura NH-C14S cooler, EVGA SuperNova 650W psu, G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8GB DDR4 RAM, WD Blue 1TB HDD, Corsair 450D case.
Thank you !

 

[vapour]

There is no I7-8600k but I7-8700k or I5-8600k.
I5-9600k will be my pick and add 500 gb ssd as well
Looks good otherwise.
RTX 2060 can be considered too.

 

[logainofhades]

What is your budget? I would probably recommend a Ryzen 2600, or 2700, with a B450 board, and use the savings on a better graphics card. The rtx 2060 should be out, in stores, soon, and is faster, than a 1070, for not much more money. Also, you are going to want an SSD.

 

[pholahan1]

What is your budget? I would probably recommend a Ryzen 2600, or 2700, with a B450 board, and use the savings on a better graphics card. The rtx 2060 should be out, in stores, soon, and is faster, than a 1070, for not much more money. Also, you are going to want an SSD.

Thanks for the reply. I omitted the Samsung SATA III 512GB SSD. Looks like the rtx 2060 is pretty close in price to the 1070...I'll make the change in my build, Thanks!

 

[pholahan1]

There is no I7-8600k but I7-8700k or I5-8600k.
I5-9600k will be my pick and add 500 gb ssd as well
Looks good otherwise.
RTX 2060 can be considered too.

Sorry, I meant i5-8600K and forgot to include the Samsung SATA III 512GB SSD.. If I went with the 9600K would I need to go to Liquid Cooling?

 

[vapour]

Where do you live?
I will get Cryorig H5 universal or better.
To me, there are both good and bad liquid cooling, it depends on the model.

 

[pholahan1]

Where do you live?
I will get Cryorig H5 universal or better.
To me, there are both good and bad liquid cooling, it depends on the model.

I live in Florida, USA. Been mostly pricing components online at Newegg.

 

[vapour]

US price is lowest probably in the world. what fps are you looking for? max setting? If so, you may want to consider better gpu too. Total budget?

 

[kindangrysliceofpie]

Hey sauce boss! I’m a fellow DCS pilot (beginning, an F-15 is totally different from the Cessna I fly) and I can totally help. What monitor(s) do you have? I like having a 1440p monitor or higher (helps me see targets farther off) at least 75 Hz, so I’d recommend something like that. The 1070 will work perfectly, but I’d recommend a ryzen system over an intel one. Here’s a little parts list I assembled:


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XJmPWD

 

[pholahan1]

US price is lowest probably in the world. what fps are you looking for? max setting? If so, you may want to consider better gpu too. Total budget?

Budget around $1500 US. As another suggested, I'm now looking at an MSI RTX2070 gpu.

 

[logainofhades]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Universal 76 CFM CPU Cooler ($93.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($44.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card ($499.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1436.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-16 16:08 EST-0500

 

[vapour]

My take:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($75.90 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($706.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.65 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: MSI - Optix MAG27CQ 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($398.95 @ B&H)
Total: $1648.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-16 16:36 EST-0500

 

[pholahan1]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Universal 76 CFM CPU Cooler ($93.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($44.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card ($499.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1436.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-16 16:08 EST-0500

So, why do you guys recommend AMD over Intel? I'm open to getting the best bang for the buck, but I don't know what the comparison is between the two.

 

[vapour]

If no budget limit, go for I9-9900k, but 1.5k and you want best setting to play, balancing the build is needed. 2600 overclock can be a bit better than I5-8400, roughly speaking, but with doubled threads.

 

[pholahan1]

If no budget limit, go for I9-9900k, but 1.5k and you want best setting to play, balancing the build is needed. 2600 overclock can be a bit better than I5-8400, roughly speaking, but with doubled threads.

But, is the 2600 better than the i5-8600K?

 

[vapour]

For gaming, Intel I5-8600k is better. But you need z370 mb with good vrm and a good cooler.

 

[pholahan1]

For gaming, Intel I5-8600k is better. But you need z370 mb with good vrm and a good cooler.

This was in my build: ASUS ROG Strix Z-390-e MB

 

[pholahan1]

For gaming, Intel I5-8600k is better. But you need z370 mb with good vrm and a good cooler.

Sorry, I also have this cooler in my build: Noctura NH-C14S cooler

 

[vapour]

I talking about price wise if you get 8600k. Your set up is good just will have worse graphics than my choice. It will reach 144 FPS though.

 

[pholahan1]

I talking about price wise if you get 8600k. Your set up is good just will have worse graphics than my choice. It will reach 144 FPS though.

Thank you, I really appreciate your input. I'm looking forward to getting it all together, as it's my first build.

 

[pholahan1]

After reading everyones input, this is what I've come up with for a build. Please let me know if I've missed anything. I'm mainly going to be running DCS and FSX.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($259.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65 CFM CPU Cooler ($73.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste ($6.39 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.08 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Pro 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($140.90 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB VENTUS Video Card ($484.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Corsair - K68 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($109.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1504.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-18 12:24 EST-0500

 

[kindangrysliceofpie]

Looks pretty good!

 

[logainofhades]

That SSD price is a bit crazy, for a SATA drive. The 970 evo is faster, and cheaper. Don't need the Arctic Silver 5. The cooler supplied stuff is plenty good enough. You can get faster 3000 ram, for less.

With some tweaks, and slightly more money, you can step up to a 2080, going with an R5 2600.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65 CFM CPU Cooler ($73.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($67.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card ($698.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.45 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: Antec - Earthwatts Gold Pro 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE RGB MK.2 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($99.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $1517.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-18 13:05 EST-0500

 

[pholahan1]

That SSD price is a bit crazy, for a SATA drive. The 970 evo is faster, and cheaper. Don't need the Arctic Silver 5. The cooler supplied stuff is plenty good enough. You can get faster 3000 ram, for less.

With some tweaks, and slightly more money, you can step up to a 2080, going with an R5 2600.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65 CFM CPU Cooler ($73.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($67.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card ($698.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.45 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: Antec - Earthwatts Gold Pro 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE RGB MK.2 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($99.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $1517.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-18 13:05 EST-0500

I was looking at the M.2-2280 SSD but thought they were more expensive than the 2.5" SSD and wouldn't be worth it for my purposes, but I was wrong. I'll make that switch. I do not belong to Newegg Business, so I'm stuck with retail prices.

 

[tbln930]

I am just researching a build for DCS and all of the current players I chatted with are telling me not to consider anything less than 32 GB of memory (and more is better) and an SSD is a requirement. The 2080 is good but even that will get pushed to its limits.

I like this setup with some minor changes. A 1 TB SSD. 32 GB memory (a hard drive is way too slow) and upgradeable. Some are running 64 GB Ram DDR4 and saying it is not too much.

Be curious if anyone has got theirs up and running. I got to demo the F-18 DCS module on a six month old machine with a Rift VR and it was spectacular. There is nothing like it as far as flight simulation goes in the private sector. THe newer headsets with higher resolution are coming out now. I just got emailed on the new Rift.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65 CFM CPU Cooler ($73.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory($92.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive($67.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card($698.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case($98.45 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: Antec - Earthwatts Gold Pro 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE RGB MK.2 Wired Gaming Keyboard($99.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $1517.37