[SOLVED] Building a PC with a $3000 budget. Need some feedback on this build before I pull the trigger

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgYFOhgRJRA


If you could take the time to view the build and help me out I'd really appreciate it
I have been having trouble getting advice on Reddit and thought the community here could give me a hand

I really enjoy that PC build and it's around the budget that I want to spend. Here are the specs included:

CPU: i9 9900K

GPU: MSi RTX 2080 Ti

RAM: Gskill 32gb 3000

Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS XTREME LGA 1151

CPU cooler: Cooler Master ML360R Addressable RGB AIO

Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500M

Power supply: CORSAIR HX850i 850W 80 PLUS PLATINUM

HDD: WD Black 2TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM

M.2: SAMSUNG 970 EVO 2280 500GB

I know there are other items that arent included in the list that he uses in the video I will have to grab
Note, I want the PC to last another 5 years. I play competitive shooters such as CSGO, Valorant, Cod, other games like DayZ and VR (Oculus Rift)
 
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32gb of ram? why? get 16gb with a good Cas latency like the Trident Z at 14Cas

Based on what the OP posted.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($430.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($199.94 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 DESIGNARE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($262.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4400 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4400 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f9xtq3

  1. MSI Gaming X is too expensive. Opt for something cheaper
  2. 850 W is not necessary even for a high end build, provided that you don't overclock or use HEDT platforms/CPUs such as 10980XE or 3990X. PSUs are expensive these days but the RM 750 is somehow an exception. There's also a Seasonic 650W Platinum for a bit more, though less wattages means you can not upgrade into certain parts later.
  3. For capacities less than 4 TBs, go with a 2 TB SSD. It makes a huge difference.
  4. If you are going to increase the resolution later, strongly consider Ryzen 3900X. The 4000 series is expected to be available for upgrade later and it'll be very handy.
 
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Now to something completely different:
If you want to spent 3000$$$ on a pc why just go with 500 gb ssd storage?
I personally would take a 2 tb sata ssd like a mx500 instead of that spinning drive.
I'm building something similar, but wanted fast storage, so I picked a MB that supports NVMe M.2 with PCIE 4.0. Not cheap, but seems to be extremely fast.
 

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A stock 9900k with cheap 3000 MT/s RAM is not going to be a performance king of anything. You need to add faster RAM and a decent overclock.

If you run your 9900k at stock with 3000MT/s RAM, your performance will not beat a 3800x overclocked correctly. Here is a 9900k stock no MCE and 3200MT/s RAM with a 2080ti in Shadow of the Tomb Raider.


9900k_sotr_1080p_highest_dx12_cpu_avg-100777220-orig.jpg

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https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/palit_geforce_rtx_2080_super_gamingpro_review,13.html gives 134fps average for a 9900k stock and 3200 RAM @1080p.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider 4k highest 9900k @ 5GHz G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-3600 2 x 16GB (17-18-18-38)

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/14663/the-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super-review/4

Vs. a 3800x 3800MT/s CL15 RAM with a RTX 2080. 1080p



Vs. a 3800x 3800MT/s CL15 RAM with a RTX 2080. 4k



As you can see the 9900k with 3200MT/s RAM (an overclock) a 2080ti loses to a 3800x with a 2080 and 3800MT/s (overclock) RAM. RAM speed matters. Note that the 3800x is bottlenecked by the RTX 2080, when the 3800 RAM was CL16 it hit 141fps average.

Now with the 9900k system @ 5GHz 3600 32GB CL17 RAM with a 2080 ti matches the 3800x 3800MT/s CL15 RAM with a RTX 2080 @ 4k.

Spending a bit of money on better RAM will help performance, not all 9900k's overclock well and RAM will help keep the performance good. Also there is the issue of getting a 9900k at 5GHz cooled correctly.

A stock 9900KS with 4x8 GB DDR4 3200 CL16 MHz (Corsair Dominator) 11586,



My 3800x IF 1900 RAM 3800MT/s CL15. 11571 maximum, 11500 average good run. (score varies a lot for no reason in 3d mark with the 3800x. In cinebench r20 you could hit 5200+ each time you run but get 10900 in time spy cpu the first time, then 11500 the next time, etc turning off cpu-z and gpu-z appears to sometimes help fix this via FMSIDiag.exe )

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/11749223
12337 Time Spy https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9310157

Note: My 3800x has a full customer water loop, 360x60 copper rad with 6 push/pull fans. IF is 1900 and RAM is 3800 MT/s with tightened timings.



Having a fast 9900k system is not just a matter of spending $3000.
 
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32gb of ram? why? get 16gb with a good Cas latency like the Trident Z at 14Cas

Based on what the OP posted.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($430.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($199.94 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 DESIGNARE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($262.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4400 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4400 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($1214.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($103.60 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair AX 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $254.99
Total: $2970.66

SSD Review https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/crucial-mx500-ssd-review-nand,5390-6.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/wd-blue-sn550-m2-nvme-ssd-review-best-dramless-ssd-yet
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/patriot-viper-steel-ddr4-4400-c19-16gb-memory-kit,5991.html
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DV29GYN CPU cooler
$254.99
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/coolermaster-masterliquid-ml360r-rgb,5736.html
 
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that rig is a beast

The memory does not appear on the motherboard support list. The memory is just binned b-die for 4400MT/s @ 1.45 volts 19-19-19-39 so should get good results at any frequency @1.35 volts. The OP may need to dial the memory in himself.

Specification:
  • Capacity: 16GB (2 x 8GB)
  • Base Frequency: PC4-17000 (2133MHz)
  • Base Timings: 15-15-15-36
  • Tested Frequency Profile 1: PC4-35200 (4400MHz)
  • Tested Frequency Profile 2: PC4-34100 (4266MHz) <----- Target profile
  • Tested Timings: 19-19-19-39 <----- Target profile
  • Tested Voltage for Profile 1: 1.45V
  • Tested Voltage for Profile 2: 1.35V <----- Target profile
  • Format: NON-ECC Unbuffered DIMM
  • Pin Out: 288-Pin
  • Warranty: Lifetime
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This website states the 4000MT/s 19-19-19-39 is supported for the same memory https://pangoly.com/en/review/patri...-16gb-2x8gb-4000mhz/compatibility/motherboard

This memory kit is PVS416G400C9K which can be found on https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/ as Samsung B-die. Patriot Viper Steel / 4000C19 9.5ns / 16GB 2 sticks SR
 
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