Building Gaming Rig

[PC_RIG_noob]

Hello, i've read many articles on tomshardware and it has been very helpful in my reaserch for building a PC, Thank you! I am trying to build a PC gaming rig from scratch ( for the first time so I'm new to almost everything ) and I was wondering if my components were all compatible? I am on some what of a tight budget. Also i'm not sure if i am missing anything else for the build ( besides the Mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers )

Processor ( intel core i5 4670k Quad Core) :
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8037045&Sku=I69-4670K

Motherboard (MSI B85-G41 PC MATE Intel B85 Motherboard):
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8041589&Sku=M452-1159

Video Card (PNY GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost OC Video Card) :
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7983370&Sku=P56-0658

Power Supply (Thermaltake SMART M750W SP-750M Modular Power Supply -750Watt) :
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2543335&Sku=T925-8032

Case (Ultra Rogue M925 Full Tower Gaming Case ) : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2851012&Sku=U12-42152

Cooling Fan (Cooler Master Hyper N520 CPU Cooler) : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4434989&Sku=C283-1202

RAM (Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B Desktop Memory Kit):http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=40739&CatId=4534

Hard Drive (Toshiba HDKPC03 DT01ACA100 1TB Hard Drive) x2 : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3303660&Sku=T24-9901

P.S I am not even sure if I need a fan and I'm totally unsure about the RAM (compatibility)
Thanks in Advance!

 

[thundagawd]

You ALWAYS need fans in the case, ESPECIALLY if you're gaming (unless you're building a liquid-cooled system). Your tower might have a couple of fans pre-installed (Usually exhaust fans), but you'll need intake fans as well that will cool your components (You can usually get great fans for as low as 7$ each, provided you're willing to do the research or ask someone more knowledgeable on the subject). The CPU cooler will handle cooling the processor, but you'll need something to assist you in cooling your graphics card (side fans), as well as intake fans on the frontal vents to get a good airflow going through the case.

And yes, your motherboard and your RAM are compatible. Corsair vengeance is DDR3 memory, and your Motherboard has the proper slots for it.

P.S. A lot of people use the PCPartpicker site when it comes to assembling builds, the site has a compatibility filter that prevents you from picking components that won't work together, it's a nice utility to have when it comes to building.

 

[jjs0891]

everything is compatible but your build sucks. On top of that, everything is from tigerdirect. Why are you buying all your parts from tigerdirect?

 

[Anas Bashar]

your Mobo will not be able to OC the CPU, plus the B85 is low-end buisiness type, manufacturers usually make these with relatively low quality materials.
for the Mobo CPU combination, you have two options:
1- i5-4670K with a Z87 Mobo, like this one: ASRock Z87M Extreme4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157373
2- an i5-4670 with H87 Mobo.

for the case, a mid-tower case will be more than enough.

for the PSU, get something from Seasonic, Antec, XFX pro series or Corsair HX series.

the ram is ok, i cannot comment on the other parts.

-UPDATED-

 

[PC_RIG_noob]

You ALWAYS need fans in the case, ESPECIALLY if you're gaming (unless you're building a liquid-cooled system). Your tower might have a couple of fans pre-installed (Usually exhaust fans), but you'll need intake fans as well that will cool your components (You can usually get great fans for as low as 7$ each, provided you're willing to do the research or ask someone more knowledgeable on the subject). The CPU cooler will handle cooling the processor, but you'll need something to assist you in cooling your graphics card (side fans), as well as intake fans on the frontal vents to get a good airflow going through the case.

And yes, your motherboard and your RAM are compatible. Corsair vengeance is DDR3 memory, and your Motherboard has the proper slots for it.

P.S. A lot of people use the PCPartpicker site when it comes to assembling builds, the site has a compatibility filter that prevents you from picking components that won't work together, it's a nice utility to have when it comes to building.

Okay Thanks, so would you recommend me buying 2 more fans? and do you know how well my graphics card will be against, say crysis 3? or any of those high end games ?

 

[PC_RIG_noob]

your Mobo will not be able to OC the CPU, plus the B85 is low-end buisiness type, manufacturers usually make these with relatively low quality materials.
for the Mobo CPU combination, you have two options:
1- i5-4670K with a Z87 Mobo, like this one: MSI Z77MA-G45 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130647
2- an i5-4670 with H87 Mobo.


for the case, a mid-tower case will be more than enough.

for the PSU, get something from Seasonic, Antec, XFX pro series or Corsair HX series.

the ram is ok, i cannot comment on the other parts.

ummmm what is OC? and should I be looking for a 750w PSU? from Seasonic, Antec, XFX pro series or Corsair HX series
( Still new :/ )
thanks

 

[thundagawd]

Okay Thanks, so would you recommend me buying 2 more fans? and do you know how well my graphics card will be against, say crysis 3? or any of those high end games ?

Yeah, at least 2 fans, if not more. Your case appears to have room for 4 fans in the side (You'll only need 2 if you only have 1 graphics card), and 2 in the front (I think). As for your graphics card, a 660Ti can run Battlefield 4 on ultra at a relatively stable 60FPS, and a 660Ti is roughly 25% stronger than your 650Ti, so my guess is on BF4 ultra, your card would probably get around 50-ish FPS, dipping into the low 40's if there a LOT happening at once. As for Crysis 3, a GTX 770 gets like 70 FPS on Ultra with the MSAA set to 4X (Crysis 3 goes up to 16x MSAA, which is the notoriously big performance killer, but on a lower setting it's nowhere near as bad) You can probably pull off a stable 40-50 FPS if you keep the MSAA relatively low and tinker around with the post-processing options (shadows, particle effect, reflections, etc.). Keep in mind these are all estimates, feel free to check out performance demos for certain games using your particular card on youtube, they typically have 5-15 minutes of gameplay per video to give you a feel for what it would be like for you, just so you don't jump on the card and then suffer buyer's remorse because it doesn't handle the games you want to play as well as you'd want it to.

And in response to your questions regarding Anas Basher's comments, OC = Overclocking, essentially, pushing a card/processor beyond it's limits by adjusting the voltage & such assigned to the component (you need a lot of cooling and a high power supply to accomplish this, and you can risk damaging your components if you're not sure familiar with how it works). And in regards to your PSU, I'd suggest something from Corsair, as they're amongst the best brands (in my opinion) when it comes to PSU's. You can check out the Corsair RM750: 750W, gold certified, fully modular, and only like $20 more expensive than the one you initially planned on. When it comes to PSU's you really can't go wrong with Corsair.

 

[Anas Bashar]

if you are absolutely sure that you will never buy a second card, a 650W will be totally enough and you will still be cose to the %50 load range, in which the PSU efficiency is at its highest. else wise get a 750W.

regarding the OC, thanks thundagawd for the explanation. personally i would encourage anyone to try to OC at some point down the road. even if you cannot do it now, or simply not interested, you will eventually go there. it is nice to squeeze more power from your CPU and GPU and get some performance boost.
for example this i5-4670K can go up to 4.5Ghz stable 24/7 operation, compare that to the stock frequency of the locked i5-4670 (3.4, 3.8 boost).

 

[PC_RIG_noob]

AH Such great information from you guys thanks you!
So i decided to get the

Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2 Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 Power Supply
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7195038&Sku=C13-2802

and two Cougar Vortex PWM CFV12HP 120mm Case Fan
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3828304&Sku=H702-0026

the Mobo will be MSI Z77MA-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130647

Also what Processor do you recommend for Overclocking with the motherboard I chose above ? ( i heard the i7 is better but gaming Pc dont need the i7, and the i5 is much cheaper )

 

[jjs0891]

that Z77 motheboard is for 1155 LGA. You need Z87. Also, go for ASRock, Asus, Gigabyte motherboards instead. i7 is 100$ more which could be better spent on a better video card. The i5 4670k is still a beast for gaming especially when overclocked.

 

[thundagawd]

AH Such great information from you guys thanks you!
So i decided to get the

Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2 Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 Power Supply
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7195038&Sku=C13-2802

and two Cougar Vortex PWM CFV12HP 120mm Case Fan
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3828304&Sku=H702-0026

the Mobo will be MSI Z77MA-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130647

Also what Processor do you recommend for Overclocking with the motherboard I chose above ? ( i heard the i7 is better but gaming Pc dont need the i7, and the i5 is much cheaper )

Good fan choice, I have a few of those in my build and they work very well. As for your motherboard, Z77's aren't compatible with 4th gen Intel processors so you'll need a mobo with a Z87 chipset as jjs0891 said (His choice of motherboard brands are pretty much spot on as well, so try to stick to good brands, don't go for no-name brands in an attempt to save a few bucks otherwise it might cripple you in the long run). As for Processor choice, i7's ARE stronger, but the extra power isn't necessary seeing as you could get the same performance out of a lightly overclocked i5, the i5 4670K is a great choice for gaming (Processor's with a "K" after their name are usually overclockable, otherwise they're locked at a specific output and can't be raised/lowered).

If you plan on Overclocking though, you'll probably want to get more fans (there's usually a certain amount of spots for fans in a case, so once you want to give it a go, just fill all those spots up with the appropriate-sized fans, thankfully fans aren't insanely expensive), and make sure to read a lot of guides and do some research, otherwise you can risk damaging you processor (The great thing about custom builds however, is that you put it all together, and therefore know how everything in your machine is set up. If you mess up an overclock and your computer refuses to start up, you can make use of the CMOS switch on your motherboard to reset your BIOS settings and start over from scratch).

 

[Anas Bashar]

I updated my pervious reply.
go with the ASRock Z87M Extreme4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157373
it got 2 PCI-e3 X16 slots.

 

[PC_RIG_noob]

I updated my pervious reply.
go with the ASRock Z87M Extreme4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157373
it got 2 PCI-e3 X16 slots.

After alot of thought and consideration and modifications (thank you Anas Basher and thundagawd for you inputs) I think my final rig will be :

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.79 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($338.63 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.89 @ DirectCanada)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($23.21 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.00 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1090.83

I DO like the mobo you suggested but i know Asus better than Asrock ( just personal preference ). I sure Asrock is a good company tho

 

[Anas Bashar]

1- regarding the Mobo, personally i would go with the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157369.... it is exactly the same price, and a no-brainer at that price range. it got an extra PCI-e3 X16 slot too.
google it, it got good reviews and awards.

2- the PSU, i would go with the V2 of that same PSU "CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021
it is $20 more i know, but offers much better quality http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-TX750-V2-Power-Supply-Review/1227/10
i quote "compared to the old TX750, the new version is a no-brainer, providing higher efficiency and far lower noise and ripple levels" these tiny-and-significant details define the quality of a PSU.