Building new rig for gaming

[The One Above All]

Hello everyone,I'm new here and i wanna expand my knowledge on a few things,i'm gonna build a new pc and i need advice from you all,hope you can help me decide,money is around 2800 euro.Now then,my choices so far:

Case:Fractal Design Define XL R2 Black Pearl
PSU:Corsair HX850i
GPU:Asus Strix 1080 ti
Case fans:Noctua industrial fans
Mobo:ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X APEX(if i'm going z370 route),or ASUS ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX(if i'm going x299 route)
Cpu:for z370 i7 8700k(planning some mild oc) or x299 i7 7820x(also some oc hopefully 4.6 on all cores)
Cpu cooler:Noctua NH-D15S
Ram:G.SKILL 32 GB KIT DDR4 3200 MHz CL14 Trident Z
I already have ssd and hdd:Seagate BarraCuda Pro 2 TB and Kingston HyperX Savage SSD 480GB

I am building this pc with future proofing in mind,and i'd like to play modern games at absolute ultra,and also emulators(pcsx2 and rpcs3),any help is appreciated,thanks!

 

[Frag Maniac]

What res are you playing at? The 1080 Ti will handle pretty much all games at 1440p at 60 FPS, but at 4K some games it will only play at mid 40s FPS on max settings.

Also, don't bother with X299 unless for some reason you need all those extra Pci-Ex lanes. Z370 will handle a single GPU at x16 and one high speed x4 NVMe drive, which is all you need really. SLI is not a wise investment anymore since an increasing number of games either don't support it, or don't support it well. Plus X299 has quad channel RAM, and quad RAM kits are pricey. You really don't need an X platform unless you're doing pretty serious workstation stuff, or SLI.

 

[The One Above All]

Thanks for the quick reply,I don't plan on playing 4k,max will be 2k,however i'm really leaning toward the 7820x because of the +2 core,also i'm gaming on heavy emulators like pcsx2 and rpcs3,and i want "kinda" future proof pc

 

[Frag Maniac]

The best CPU currently benched for gaming is the 8700k, and it's only $380 right now. Honestly, 6 cores is as ample as 16GB RAM for the foreseeable future where gaming is concerned. Put the $190 saved toward a NVMe drive.

 

[The One Above All]

I'm sorry,what's an NVMe drive?An SSD?Also will the i7 8700k be better than 7820x for emulation?

 

[Frag Maniac]

I'm sorry,what's an NVMe drive?An SSD?Also will the i7 8700k be better than 7820x for emulation?

It's a new standard of faster SSDs that mounts in a Pci-Ex x4 slot, they're also much smaller. They're sequential read speed on a 480-512GB is well over 2000 MB/s, and write speed of over 1200 MB/s. Samsung's EVO series NVMe drives are the most popular, and have very good speed, but they have only a 3 yr warranty. There are others with plenty adequate speed that have 5 yr warranties. My overall choice would be the Plextor M8Pe for speed and reliability. Plextor more than any other brand is made for reliability. I've had one of their standard 128GB SSDs for quite some time.

Samsung 960 EVO 500GB (3200 read, 1800 write, 3 yr warranty, $230)
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147594&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Plextor M8Pe 512GB (2300 read, 1300 write, 5 yr warranty, $194)
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820249086

Don't be fooled by specs alone though. Manufacturers always rate their drives on what they do best. They don't reveal what speed they run on things they DON'T do so well. When it comes to everyday use scenarios for apps and programs (including games), the Plextor is actually faster than the Samsung. It's only slower at large file transfers. Tom's review rated it very good for every day use and reliability, as well as price. And their drive I have is one of those M5s mentioned in the review.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/plextor-m8pe-series-ssd-review,4794.html

 

[The One Above All]

Oh i see,thanks for the answer!I will look into it!

 

[Frag Maniac]

If you go with a 512GB NVMe, which I recommend because it's the sweet spot for speed, capacity, price, and warranty* (see below), make sure you make a partition just for the OS (35-40GB should be plenty). When you install things, make sure anything that can be is NOT installed on the OS partition. The only thing that should go on that partition is OS and drivers, and anything that does not give you install path options.

That way if you ever need to format the OS, it will be quick and painless, meaning you'll only need to reinstall drivers, instead of all your programs and any games you put on the drive.

* Regarding 5 yr warranties on SSDs, they're usually limited ones, meaning they come with write size limitations. A 512GB size drive has over 750TB of write allowance though, so unless you go crazy with tons of huge file transfers, the warranty should be valid for at least 5 yrs.

 

[The One Above All]

Thank you friend i have made up my mind!Change of plans:
Mobo:MSI Godlike Gaming z370(i want the best of the mainstream,and i will combine with an msi 1080 ti)
Cpu:i7 8700k predelidded
Gpu:MSI 1080 ti gaming x trio
ssd:Samsung 960 PRO 512GB
i will have anough money for all of this so i think it will be great,but i need to wait a month or so,so things could change till then...

 

[The One Above All]

The only thing that i'm still not decided on is cpu cooling,i'm looking at the noctua nh-d15s for air cooling(high end),but the kraken x62 looks sexy as hell,although i'm afraid to use watercooling as i've heard many things about pumps failing and worse,leaks...and i'd like to keep my 8700k at 4.8 ghz on all cores stable with acceptable temps(70-75 max)