Building new rig for/with an aspiring 13yr old and would like some thoughts and input.

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So I myself have only dabbled in the past with my own rigs and really all of my “knowledge” comes from reading forums and such. That being said we have purchased all the parts but intake/exhaust fans and the GPU. I have read what I could about all of the hardwares pros and cons and have done the best I could I think. This is, for now, going to be a gaming pc for him. But because he and his mother have saved $1600 for this pc for the last 1.5yrs and I am throwing in $300. I have chosen to build him something that he can grow into and hopefully learn to tinker and to be a sound pc enthusiast one day. I have mentioned the fact to him that the next generation of GPUs are due out “presumably” by the end of the year and he has chose to wait for that and only utilize the onboard graphics until then. As far as the build goes I am currently feeling good about it but really would like the input of others waay more experienced than myself. This is supposed to be ready for him to eventually start overclocking when he grows into it. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

This is what has been purchased.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GqV6QZ

Also, we have only JUST ordered these parts so if you guys have a better idea then feel free to let me know.
 
Agree with madmatt30, quality build with quality parts.

My only question is, what monitor will you be pairing with this rig as that will dictate what GPU you will be needing. If the goal is 1080p gaming, then you don't need to wait till the next gen GPUs come out. Go for a 1060/1070. The 1060 6gb is great for 1080p/60hz. If you are wanting the higher than 60 fps at 1080p max settings, then the 1070 will be a good choice.
 
Thanks for the feel goods guys. Here is where I will likely get some flak though. In the beginning I was told the budget was $1200. At that price point I had him with an i5 8600 and a GTX 1070 with a $40 case. TBO though he upgraded the case to what it is now :). Now I am saving the rest of the money for the xx80 equivalent on the next gen platform. His monitor is one his mother recieved from her company that I picked out from a group of monitors she could choose from. It is the Asus VE278H which I pegged to be the best gaming 1080p monitor out of the bunch. And a solid one to boot. I explained to him the trap that is 4k gaming and why it would be a bad idea to do that based off of wanting this build to last, for as long as possible, on ultra settings while having smooth frame rates. I talked briefly about the 2k 27in realm but talked him out of it for the same reasons. Now I understand I am going to get heat on this but because he is 13 and because I think he (hopefully) wont need to do a single thing to this computer until college, I am letting it stand as a 1080p machine. He knows nothing really but is wanting to learn. I basically built him something that when he so chooses can offer him the ability to expand his knowledge and abilities I.T. wise. Complete overkill for 1080p sure. But really when you go chase down comparison game benchmarks between the two there are “some” games that arent where I would want to be sitting fps wise with a 1070 if I were spending this amount of money on a new build especially for “future proofing” PLUS it would eliminate his ability to upgrade himself to 2k or 4k if he chose to in the future. These were my thoughts on it. Oh, and also I did not want to spend a dime of this money on a monitor because god knows I would likely pick one that was over $400. Haha
 


The monitor that he has is a 1080p with 75hz refresh rate. That means, that regardless of the GPU, the monitor is only capable of providing a max of 75 fps. That system with that monitor paired with a gtx xx80 GPU would be like driving a Ferrari in a school zone all day.

A 1060/580 is really designed for 1080p/60hz high settings gaming. Perfect cards for that threshold. A 1070 will have no issue pushing 75fps at 1080p at high settings. In fact, a 1070 is really good for 1080p/144hz. If you purchase a gtx 1080, gtx 1080ti, or the next gen gtx xx80, the gaming experience will be exactly the same as the 1070 because with that monitor, the monitor becomes your bottleneck.

If it were me, I would build the rig and throw in a 1070ti/1080 (they are about the same) and get a 1080p 144hz monitor. At that resolution they system will be "future proof", the gaming experience would be much better, and it will cost about the same as the next gen gtx xx80. It has been a long time since we have had a next gen GPU from Nvidia, I expect these GPUs to be expensive and difficult to get your hands on.

That is just my two cents. Good luck!
 
You’re absolutely right on all accounts. All that being said I just cant find it in myself to build to a lower spec because of his current monitor. LoL I also would not want to buy him a monitor if it did not have GSync for one. So it would be a GSync 1080p 144hz monitor if I got to choose. But even then (correct me if I am wrong) you would then have to be able to hit 144fps on all games in order to limit screen studdering issues because from what I have “heard” is that it can create monitor/display issues if it is showing less than its native hz in fps.
 
Here is a really in depth article on gsync. Lag becomes the biggest issue. I have two gsync monitors and it is best to set a frame cap of 2 fps lower than the native refresh of the monitor and enable vsync in the game or Nvidia control panel. This setting will have the least amount of lag and eliminate screen tearing.

https://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/
 
Not a bad choice in parts. You could save some money going with a Crucial MX500 drive. Samsung drives are nice, but a bit overpriced. Could go a bit cheaper on the ram, and cooler, too. That expensive motherboard isn't really necessary either, to be honest, so you could save there as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($327.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.95 @ Adorama)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $1111.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-05 12:37 EDT-0400


AMD is also an option.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($306.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.95 @ Adorama)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $1015.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-05 12:41 EDT-0400

You could even go with a 2600x, to make room for that GTX 1070.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.95 @ Adorama)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $953.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-05 12:43 EDT-0400