Building new rig max 600$

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M1kss

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I asked here already and I just wonder if anything changed. I am mostly playing MMORPG's but also I do some other work with video. I already have windows and I wonder if I could get i5 for this price rang.

this is what you posted me few months ago. Can I just replace i3 with an i5 and leave everything else the same?

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.93 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($48.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $593.81
 
Don't worry I am glad someone is willing to help as I am really not good at this. I needed a lot of help from you. Maybe just let me know if you think that I should wait until monday? Maybe there will be some discouts. Problem here is that I didn't check if they send these parts to my country so price will raise maybe again.
 
MT6Anime,

More cores in and of itself has nothing to do with execution performance. Clock for clock, a non-hyperthreaded haswell core (like an i5 core) has basically the same usable execution throughput as piledriver MODULE. A theoretical 8 threaded workload that achieves high saturation on the FX-83XX will run nearly just as fast on an equally clocked i5 haswell chip.

It doesn't matter how much the industry "moves towards multi-core" in software, there are some limitations to scaling real-time workloads that will never be overcome. Perfect saturation of intercore parallel computing resources will not happen in gaming, period. Furthermore, even in that hypothetical future where the game is using 8 cores really well, the i5 still winds up running the 8 threaded real-time workload better than the FX chip because the availability of execution resources to any on of those many threads is still more versatile.

Buying into FX chips for gaming today, and sacrificing performance in existing games in favor of "hope" that the CPU will someday mature into something better is such a terrible approach to computer building. No professional systems engineer would ever build a system with poor performance in existing software, hoping that things would change in the long run. You wouldn't buy a car that was designed for futuristic roads and then go try to limp it around the potholes of todays roads. That wouldn't be practical. By the time games are leveraging 8 cores reasonably well in the mainstream, the FX-83XX will be obsolete and running those new games poorly anyway.
 


lol dude calm down all I said was that that build was the best bang for the buck at that budget. You didn't offer any counter builds so all you're doing is talking and not helping. I gave him an FX-8320 which is clearly better than an i3 but not as good as an i5 so its a nice middle ground. And the OP ended up making a better build anyways so calm down.
 
Sorry but that board for the amd build will throttle down with an fx chip like that. The power phase is very poor, and it also has no heatsinks on them at all. You will be playing your game and all of a sudden your fps will drop down to 10 then you will come back here only to find out that you will need to buy a better motherboard for the 8320
 
also forgot to mention that board is only a 95w board so it won't take a 125w processor which means it is incompatible. Recommending people the wrong boards will not leave them being very happy since with AMD power phase and how the board gets rid of the heat really does matter.
 
I'm having a hard time figuring out what the budget actually is. 600 units of a currency...?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£58.76 @ More Computers)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.20 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£143.71 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£23.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £504.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-29 17:28 GMT+0000

The above costs less than 600 somethings and is a great system for playing MMOs.

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lfk is absolutely right, not only is the FX a bad CPU choice for MMOs, putting it on a crap motherboard will just make it that much worse.
 
If you just play mmorpg's the video card that you listed will be just fine, most of the performance in those highly crowded involvements come from the processor, and for the most part about 95% of them rely on single threaded performance over multi core performance. Like if I play something like wow I just use my light work pc that just has an i3 and a 750 ti and it runs it on ultra @ 60+ fps
 


$600 is roughly £380.
 
Yeah the i5 will help you out a lot in the city areas of those games and where there are lots of players just in general. I would spend a little bit more and get the h97 asrock board https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97mpro4 The msi one I bought two of 3 days ago just because they only cost $17 at that time over here. But they both fell really cheap, and they just seemed really buggy and they didn't take the haswell refresh chip out of the box so I had to update them with a non refresh chip. I kind of bought them just for that reason so I could see that they where just as cheap as I thought they were. Now they are up on ebay
 
Okay, so I need to get i5 and that h97. I will spend more if I need, like $700 I don't have much other options. But would like to stay low as possible. So you think there will be some discouts on monday?
 
Probably in the U.K the best time is on Monday, just here in the U.S we just have a lot of places like newegg that have sales from black Friday till cyber Monday. Amazon normally drops quite a bit of their computer parts that day.