Bulldozer vs Nehalem

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i cee allot of ppl around here dreaming of monster cpu's and crap but i have a question if anibody is still around...one that rely bugs me....WTF happened to K9?? Anyone? C'mon guys!!!
 


canceled like Intel's Tejas processor.
 


I believe it was skipped for the reason that a K-9 is a dog; K9 equals canine. It was not canceled, just named k10 instead.
 



I think they were referring to Windows Server 2008 - which is the last 32-bit version of Windows Server:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070517-windows-vista-declared-32-bits-last-hurrah.html

I wouldn't go by dates (as long as they're within a reasonable frame), as if you Google, you can find more recent ones. I'm just trying to use more reputable sources, so they might be a little older than some. Besides, a print magazine will always be around 3 months out-of-date due to publishing lead times.

@turpit -> [:turpit:2]
 


But River can wash away Sandtiger... which is bulldozer's octa core version.

So Bulldozer > Nehalem > Sandtiger... while Sandtiger > Bulldozer...

I'm awfully confused :ouch:
 
I'd be suprised if AMD actually got ahead of Intel. I mean look at AMD now its getting slaughtered my Intel. And Intel is already ahead of AMD at 45nm manufaturing methods while AMD is still 65nm.

"As we were gearing up to cover the launch of AMD's highly anticipated Phenom quad-core processor, we received an email with the following information (our paraphrase).

Intel is planning to unveil a new 45 nm processor with the designation Core 2 Extreme QX9770. This new part will become available in the first quarter of 2008. Furthermore, Intel informed us that we should simulate this new CPU using the QX9650 in or lab, as it wouldn't be distributing any review samples, since none exist yet."

 


It basically rock, paper, scissors; only its Bulldozer, Nehalem, Sandtiger.... :lol:
 
K9 was a parallel processing cpu more like a modern gpu. Amd thought that software was heading in that direction. They then realised that it wasn't and therefore would be useless at running most software so they canned it after about 6 months. Thats 1 of the reasons they were late with Barcy.

Its still no excuse for joke that is Phenom.

Amd's software analysts should be sacked anyway if they have any. These are the same people that were conviced that everyone would move to 64bit OS's within 6 months of the Athlon 64 being released. I bet that 99% of Athlon 64's never saw a single 64bit instruction in there lifetime.

As for Amd getting out of this rut they are in. I don't think it will happen. They need money for R&D but at the moment they don't have money for toilet paper let alone to take on Intel at the game they invented.

Back when Amd released K8 they had much lower overheads and wern't really considered a threat by Intel so they left them alone. With the release of K8 the money started pooring in and Intel started to take notice. What let Amd down was poor management and short sightedness. They only looked at the imediate future rather than looking at the big picture that Intel will come back at them and when they do its going to hurt.

As for IBM's involvment with Amd I think thats more to do with there hatred for Intel than anything else because IBM gains almost nothing from that.

Amd's future. I would like to see Samsung buy Amd. Then they will really come alive. Samsung is on a world domination march in everything at the moment. Its almost getting to the point where there isn't a household without something manufactured by Samsung, be a TV, phone, or the memory chips in ram.

If Samsung owned Amd forget about the spider platform every single component could be manufactured by Samsung meaning very low production cost therefore cheaper for the consumer.

Bulldozer v Nehalem. Nehalems already won as far as I'm concerned Amd just don't have money.

Just my 2p and probably little bit more.
 



Reminds me of that B horror flick KillDozer
 


well you need two superchargers and direct fuel injectors to overclock it to 2.0Ghz...

I don't think its worth it :lol:
 

It really happened. The large-cache XP's had heat issues and started to lag behind the high-end and much higher clocked Northwoods. I honestly recommended a Northwood to a friend at that time. Integrated memory controller on the K8 subsequently took care of this all. The scaling advantage of the IMC put the nail in the P4 coffin as desktops went dual-core.

I wouldn't call "lag behind" a "slaughter," though. It's probably when combined with other usability areas like heat-induced throttling that the Athlon XP appeared to lose heavily to the P4 as a consumer product.
 

That's right, and a 200MHz overclock to 1.8 on LN2! So that means about 60MHz on air max and your vcore will be sky-rocketing already. If AMD is going to try and cut leakage the way it's appearing at the moment, this is actually feasible. Especially if they try to go 32nm with SOI :lol:
 


:lol: We would hit 700Mhz like back in the Pentium 3 days again...Someone should tell hector that the clockspeeds are supposed to go UP, not down. :pt1cable:
 


Yeah, later in the athlon xp series they did start to lag behind (P4 @ 3.2 > xp 3200+) but it was neck and neck for the most part.
 
I have only been in to building PCs since last September.

The AMD 64x2 did come out before the Core2Duo right?

It was out like 6 months before wasn't it?

What were people saying when the 64x2's came out?
 


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: !!!FAIR AND OPEN COMPETITION!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
 
OMW here we go again. :pt1cable:

You know in the past 12 moths it has become harder and harder to find any good, real or relevant information about any new PC hardware being release. Everybody just seems to love throwing BS around as fact/s and go to town with it.

We may as well start speculating on the how much the soon to be released *MM CPU’s based quantum computing technology will influence my crisis frame fates at 2048x1536. :kaola:

The new MM CPU’s will fit into the new **VF socket motherboards from INTEL (let me not get started on rest of the motherboard specs) and be packaged in a coral seaweed package which will need a constant salt water supply to keep it from dropping below 50000 trillion gagaflops per second, finally some real crisis hardware.

And while I am on a roll…..I just heard that Microsoft is going to buy MAC OS from apple. They are going to fix it (I don’t feel like sharing to many details on how they plan to do this and what they plan to improve on) and distributing it as Microsoft OS x (code name “milktart” and should be ready for release in early 2011 and will only work on any system running an INTEL processor that is not based on there netbust architecture, as it sux. Mac users hang on Bill is coming to your rescue…………I could go on and on but sanity must prevail. :bounce:


*Very Fast :sol:
**Might Mouse :pfff:
 
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