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First of all, my BSD and CFTBL needed hole protection.
I read all the time about the perfect products that Cliffy produces, so i
thought i give it a shot.

I set my expectations before i go and buy something.....
(something a seller always must have in mind, in my opinion anyhow...)
Did Cliffy meet up to my expectations ? NO HE DID NOT !!!

First expectation :
"I am going to shoot a mail to him, maybe I'll get an answer after couple of
days/weeks"
**Nope, emails me back after a couple of hours.

Second expectation :
"I only want two protectors, so Cliffy will not be interessted"
**Instead of being blunt, he's friendly and helpfull.

Third expectation :
"Oke, i am going to order those protectors, they will arrive just before
Christmas (living in The Netherlands)"
**Again, expectation not fullfilled, it only took one week to arrive!

Fourth expectation :
"The goods will be wrapped in an old newspaper so they will be dented"
**Well wrapped in a bubble envelope, so the protectors looks gorgeous.

To sum things up :
When you want the same treatment as me, go for Cliffy at
www.passionforpinball.com otherwise take your business elsewhere
It's up to you.....

;-))

Jelle Nelemans - The Netherlands
________________________________
Speak*Easy-4 (1982)
Crea*ture ft Bl*ack Lag*oon(1992)
BS Drac*ula(1993)
W*H2O(1993)
S.T:T.N.G.(1993)
Twi*light Zo*ne(1993)
Pin-site : http://home.wanadoo.nl/jellen/
________________________________
 
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Not only are Cliffy's protectors terrific,He dishes out some great
advice as well!(He helped me with A question about Varathane)-John T.


Jelle Nelemans wrote:
> First of all, my BSD and CFTBL needed hole protection.
> I read all the time about the perfect products that Cliffy produces, so i
> thought i give it a shot.
>
> I set my expectations before i go and buy something.....
> (something a seller always must have in mind, in my opinion anyhow...)
> Did Cliffy meet up to my expectations ? NO HE DID NOT !!!
>
> First expectation :
> "I am going to shoot a mail to him, maybe I'll get an answer after couple of
> days/weeks"
> **Nope, emails me back after a couple of hours.
>
> Second expectation :
> "I only want two protectors, so Cliffy will not be interessted"
> **Instead of being blunt, he's friendly and helpfull.
>
> Third expectation :
> "Oke, i am going to order those protectors, they will arrive just before
> Christmas (living in The Netherlands)"
> **Again, expectation not fullfilled, it only took one week to arrive!
>
> Fourth expectation :
> "The goods will be wrapped in an old newspaper so they will be dented"
> **Well wrapped in a bubble envelope, so the protectors looks gorgeous.
>
> To sum things up :
> When you want the same treatment as me, go for Cliffy at
> www.passionforpinball.com otherwise take your business elsewhere
> It's up to you.....
>
> ;-))
>
> Jelle Nelemans - The Netherlands
> ________________________________
> Speak*Easy-4 (1982)
> Crea*ture ft Bl*ack Lag*oon(1992)
> BS Drac*ula(1993)
> W*H2O(1993)
> S.T:T.N.G.(1993)
> Twi*light Zo*ne(1993)
> Pin-site : http://home.wanadoo.nl/jellen/
> ________________________________
 
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Not only are Cliffy's protectors terrific,He dishes out some great
advice as well!(He helped me with A question about Varathane)-John T.


Jelle Nelemans wrote:
> First of all, my BSD and CFTBL needed hole protection.
> I read all the time about the perfect products that Cliffy produces, so i
> thought i give it a shot.
>
> I set my expectations before i go and buy something.....
> (something a seller always must have in mind, in my opinion anyhow...)
> Did Cliffy meet up to my expectations ? NO HE DID NOT !!!
>
> First expectation :
> "I am going to shoot a mail to him, maybe I'll get an answer after couple of
> days/weeks"
> **Nope, emails me back after a couple of hours.
>
> Second expectation :
> "I only want two protectors, so Cliffy will not be interessted"
> **Instead of being blunt, he's friendly and helpfull.
>
> Third expectation :
> "Oke, i am going to order those protectors, they will arrive just before
> Christmas (living in The Netherlands)"
> **Again, expectation not fullfilled, it only took one week to arrive!
>
> Fourth expectation :
> "The goods will be wrapped in an old newspaper so they will be dented"
> **Well wrapped in a bubble envelope, so the protectors looks gorgeous.
>
> To sum things up :
> When you want the same treatment as me, go for Cliffy at
> www.passionforpinball.com otherwise take your business elsewhere
> It's up to you.....
>
> ;-))
>
> Jelle Nelemans - The Netherlands
> ________________________________
> Speak*Easy-4 (1982)
> Crea*ture ft Bl*ack Lag*oon(1992)
> BS Drac*ula(1993)
> W*H2O(1993)
> S.T:T.N.G.(1993)
> Twi*light Zo*ne(1993)
> Pin-site : http://home.wanadoo.nl/jellen/
> ________________________________
 
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you forgot 5th expectation :

product must be made to perfection.

**expectation SURPASSED! 🙂

Pinlicious ( ...there is no spoon.)
 
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Jelle,

Nice post! I'd like to add a simple "Cliffy Is" quiz:

Cliffy Is:

A) The (bad) cat's meow.
B) The whole ball of wax (or steel...)
C) All that and a bag of... unopened goodies still stapled to the inside of
the cabinet
D) As smooth as (playfield) glass
E) All of the above

Seriously, Even though it's been said a gazillion times on this
newsgroup, it's not at all "cliche" to say that Cliffy is the among the best
this hobby has to offer. I'm glad to know him!

Jeff Giesting


In article <431cacdc$0$21218$dbd45001@news.wanadoo.nl>, "Jelle Nelemans"
<jellen@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>First of all, my BSD and CFTBL needed hole protection.
>I read all the time about the perfect products that Cliffy produces, so i
>thought i give it a shot.


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Dang !!! I had my can of "Whip-Ass" Ready to go !!

Been Very Happy w/ the protectors I got from Cliffy & STILL dont have
enough =(

Pin-Del,
 
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Good to hear. I just ordered them for my games. He was awesome to
deal with.
 
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shucks :) thanks for all the glowing reviews :) Glad to be able to help,
Jelle!

Jelle Nelemans wrote:
> First of all, my BSD and CFTBL needed hole protection.
> I read all the time about the perfect products that Cliffy produces, so i
> thought i give it a shot.
>
> I set my expectations before i go and buy something.....
> (something a seller always must have in mind, in my opinion anyhow...)
> Did Cliffy meet up to my expectations ? NO HE DID NOT !!!
>
> First expectation :
> "I am going to shoot a mail to him, maybe I'll get an answer after couple of
> days/weeks"
> **Nope, emails me back after a couple of hours.
>
> Second expectation :
> "I only want two protectors, so Cliffy will not be interessted"
> **Instead of being blunt, he's friendly and helpfull.
>
> Third expectation :
> "Oke, i am going to order those protectors, they will arrive just before
> Christmas (living in The Netherlands)"
> **Again, expectation not fullfilled, it only took one week to arrive!
>
> Fourth expectation :
> "The goods will be wrapped in an old newspaper so they will be dented"
> **Well wrapped in a bubble envelope, so the protectors looks gorgeous.
>
> To sum things up :
> When you want the same treatment as me, go for Cliffy at
> www.passionforpinball.com otherwise take your business elsewhere
> It's up to you.....
>
> ;-))
>
> Jelle Nelemans - The Netherlands
> ________________________________
> Speak*Easy-4 (1982)
> Crea*ture ft Bl*ack Lag*oon(1992)
> BS Drac*ula(1993)
> W*H2O(1993)
> S.T:T.N.G.(1993)
> Twi*light Zo*ne(1993)
> Pin-site : http://home.wanadoo.nl/jellen/
> ________________________________
>
>

--
Cliffy - CARGPB2
A passion for pinball!
http://www.passionforpinball.com
 
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I will have to agree. I grabbed a set of his NGG lift catches. He
shipped them almost instantly and I got them in like 2 days. It goes
without saying they are a great product and a vast improvement over the
originals.

Joe
 
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Not only great products, but he actually cares. I bought a set of
protectors for my FH and lost them in the move to my new house. I
explained that and he gave me a discount on the next set. I was ready
to pay full price. Now this was the truth, I did lose them in the move.
I would not suggest you try to take advantage of his kindness.

Tom
 
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Hey Cliffy, didn't anyone ever tell you that nice guys finish LAST?!
😉


> shucks :) thanks for all the glowing reviews :) Glad to be able to help,
> Jelle!
 
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That's it...I'm gonna buy a CFTBL just so I can buy a set of Cliffy
protectors! 😉

Mike



In article <MLedncDaG7K_UYHeRVn-sw@comcast.com>,
Cliffy <crinear@comcast.net> wrote:

> shucks :) thanks for all the glowing reviews :) Glad to be able to help,
> Jelle!
 
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I'm livin' proof, my brother :)

rondondo@comcast.net wrote:
> Hey Cliffy, didn't anyone ever tell you that nice guys finish LAST?!
> 😉
>
>
>
>>shucks :) thanks for all the glowing reviews :) Glad to be able to help,
>>Jelle!
>
>

--
Cliffy - CARGPB2
A passion for pinball!
http://www.passionforpinball.com
 
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Maybe time to re-examine what "Winning" means?

bogart
www.pinrestore.com

Cliffy wrote:
> I'm livin' proof, my brother :)
>
> rondondo@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Hey Cliffy, didn't anyone ever tell you that nice guys finish LAST?!
 
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Nah. I'm happy to help folks save their games and by doing so we're all
winners :)

bogart wrote:
> Maybe time to re-examine what "Winning" means?
>
> bogart
> www.pinrestore.com
>
> Cliffy wrote:
>
>> I'm livin' proof, my brother :)
>>
>> rondondo@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Cliffy, didn't anyone ever tell you that nice guys finish LAST?!

--
Cliffy - CARGPB2
A passion for pinball!
http://www.passionforpinball.com
 
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