Question Buying a new gaming PC and unsure about some of the parts

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Hello

I'm soon in the process of buying a new gaming PC and I've decided to buy it through a local store that offers building computers themselves. I told them what I definitely want in the build (Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 16GB graphics card, 32GB DDR5 ram and a solid amount of disk space (both SSD & HDD). This is the build that they sent me: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZdRksp

As you can see, it gives a warning regarding compatibility between the CPU and Mobo, so could anyone of you recommend a Mobo that won't give that kind of a warning and is of roughly the same price range ( +/- 50 euros and ideally good for gaming).

Besides that, I've read reviews that the Gigabyte 9070 XT OC can get quite noisy, so I've considered swapping it out for an Asus TUF version of that card, but can anyone who has more knowledge/experience with these two cards comment their thoughts and how big of an issue the noise is.

Finally, I'm definitely not the most tech-savvy, so if you see anything else in the build that looks unsuitable (or not ideal for gaming), then please let me know.

Thank you in advance! :)

EDIT:

Approximate Purchase Date: within the next 2-8 weeks

Budget Range: 2000-2500 euros

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade: Full buy

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Not too sure, at the moment I have looked at my local websites in Estonia that most likely do their ordering from various European warehouses.

Location: Estonia

Parts Preferences: AMD, Kingston, Corsair, Asus.

Overclocking: Maybe

Multiple GPUs: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I would like a PC that does not make that much noise when gaming, which is why I'm considering Asus TUF 9070XT OC GPU as I've heard it's better in terms of noise than some other competitors. The new PC would be used to play AAA games from the last 5-10 years as well as World of Warcraft, Runescape and such.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I tried to play the new Indiana Jones game and the game didn't even open as my current PC is too old (from 2016-2017).

Confirmed parts that I want to have:

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

At least a 16GB GPU that is quiet and from a (more or less) trusted company.

3-4 TB of SSD, 4-5 TB of HDD (both from Samsung, Kingston, Seagate or other trusted brands).
 
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I would swap out the B650 chipset motherboard for an B850 chipset board, that way you don't need to flash the BIOS...or the people building it don't need to do so.

so could anyone of you recommend a Mobo that won't give that kind of a warning and is of roughly the same price range ( +/- 50 euros and ideally good for gaming).
Where are you located? Preferred site for purchase? Please keep in mind that brand and parts availability can and will vary with regards to region. Chances are we'll be picking a board that you don't have access to and thus a back and forth will ensue. We advise users to stylize their thread with info asked of in this thread;
and the community can chime in with worthwhile suggestions.

I would swap out the Gigabyte PSU for something that's reliably built. I would also add a small capacity SSD(500GB) for your OS, app's and launchers. The larger SSD can serve as your game library drive.

can get quite noisy
Noise is a subjective topic as is with aesthetics. Some people can hear the ticking of a fan's motor while some don't even notice it, regardless of what a decibel meter says.

Moved thread from Prebuilt & Enterprise section to Systems section.
 
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Is the price under the build in the ballpark of what they are charging you to build this?

I would mention that unless you have a lot of archival storage to do, don't put a HDD in this build. Replace with SSD or NVMe drive(s).

I would make the assumption that the shop has the ability to use an earlier CPU and/or there is a flash function on the motherboard. Common complaint as of late is that when you start getting into upper level motherboards the pricing is WELL too high for the offering. I would be afraid that a substitution up the stack will cost an inordinate amount of money to feature.
 
I would swap out the B650 chipset motherboard for an B850 chipset board, that way you don't need to flash the BIOS...or the people building it don't need to do so.

so could anyone of you recommend a Mobo that won't give that kind of a warning and is of roughly the same price range ( +/- 50 euros and ideally good for gaming).
Where are you located? Preferred site for purchase? Please keep in mind that brand and parts availability can and will vary with regards to region. Chances are we'll be picking a board that you don't have access to and thus a back and forth will ensue. We advise users to stylize their thread with info asked of in this thread;
and the community can chime in with worthwhile suggestions.

I would swap out the Gigabyte PSU for something that's reliably built. I would also add a small capacity SSD(500GB) for your OS, app's and launchers. The larger SSD can serve as your game library drive.

can get quite noisy
Noise is a subjective topic as is with aesthetics. Some people can hear the ticking of a fan's motor while some don't even notice it, regardless of what a decibel meter says.

Moved thread from Prebuilt & Enterprise section to Systems section.

Thank you, I updated the original post with the recommended information.
 
Is the price under the build in the ballpark of what they are charging you to build this?

I would mention that unless you have a lot of archival storage to do, don't put a HDD in this build. Replace with SSD or NVMe drive(s).

I would make the assumption that the shop has the ability to use an earlier CPU and/or there is a flash function on the motherboard. Common complaint as of late is that when you start getting into upper level motherboards the pricing is WELL too high for the offering. I would be afraid that a substitution up the stack will cost an inordinate amount of money to feature.
The pcpartpicker.com may not display the correct price. I checked it right now and it showed ~2000 dollars, but actually it should be around 2250 dollars.

The offer that the shop made has about 15% higher price than what is listed on the site, but it also includes building the PC which I would prefer not to do.
 
Personally, I would put the build together something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€496.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€39.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X870 EAGLE WIFI7 ATX AM5 Motherboard (€235.55 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Memory: Patriot Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€184.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial T500 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€86.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Lexar NM790 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€247.29 @ Caseking)
Video Card: MSI SHADOW 3X OC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card (€796.99 @ Alternate)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 12 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€111.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (€124.81 @ Senetic)
Total: €2394.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-05-16 22:40 CEST+0200


I know these are german prices, but I assume the availability and pricing would be similar enough. I would also ditch the b650 board, HDD, and that PSU.
 
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I would expect them to make money and only 15% isn't bad, really.
What is the reasoning for not having an HDD in the computer though as in what is the downside of that?

It's a great way to store images, videos, files, games etc for a relatively low price.

My current thought is that the 4TB SDD would be for all the newer games + OS while the HDD can be used for storing files that I don't regularly use but would like to have available.

Besides that, I don't fully understand @Lutfij what is the benefit of having a separate SDD for the OS and apps, so if anyone can comment on that too, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
What is the reasoning for not having an HDD in the computer though as in what is the downside of that?

It's a great way to store images, videos, files, games etc for a relatively low price.

My current thought is that the 4TB SDD would be for all the newer games + OS while the HDD can be used for storing files that I don't regularly use but would like to have available.

Besides that, I don't fully understand @Lutfij what is the benefit of having a separate SDD for the OS and apps, so if anyone can comment on that too, it would be greatly appreciated.
Having a separate drive for the OS and the games drive can improve performance in the game to a small degree while also allowing your games drive to be segregated from the OS. This is useful for troubleshooting a bad OS drive so you do not have to reinstall the games library if you needed to format the drive. HDDs are still fine for mass storage, but 4tb is a bit small and there are better drives out there for the price per GB.
 
IMO, and outside possible performance gains (or losses) I like to have my games on a different drive such that if anything goes awry with the OS drive the game drive is still intact. Most launchers have a way to recognize game installs (IMO Steam is about the best for it).

HDD are really slow. Anything you do from that drive will be really slow. You do mention using it for archive type stuff so it may be worthwhile to you. Wouldn't overlook using an external drive or NAS, etc. for that level of storage. I absolutely would not load an active game or app/process to a HDD as it is basically knocking the knees out of the possible performance of your new rig. I do still use HDD for data storage of that type but only have one PC with a HDD installed. The others are in a NAS and a USB drive caddy.
 
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first of all replace the power supply .

drop the old mechanical hard drive as well ...
get a secondary m.2 drive instead .

replace the motherboard for B850 chipset .

personally i would also replace the case

if your monitor is 1080p 60/75Hz i would advice you to replace it with a
1440p 144/165/240Hz IPS panel .




PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€496.00 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING FROZN A620 BLACK 78.25 CFM CPU Cooler (€59.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€239.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€184.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN7100 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€124.90 @ Alternate)
Storage: Verbatim Vi7000G 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€235.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus PRIME OC Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (€739.00 @ Computeruniverse)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case (€66.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: NZXT C1000 (2024) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€153.29 @ Proshop)
Monitor: Gigabyte GS27QA 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor (€167.90 @ Alza)
Total: €2467.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-05-16 23:32 CEST+0200
 
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Hello

I'm soon in the process of buying a new gaming PC and I've decided to buy it through a local store that offers building computers themselves. I told them what I definitely want in the build (Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 16GB graphics card, 32GB DDR5 ram and a solid amount of disk space (both SSD & HDD). This is the build that they sent me: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZdRksp

As you can see, it gives a warning regarding compatibility between the CPU and Mobo, so could anyone of you recommend a Mobo that won't give that kind of a warning and is of roughly the same price range ( +/- 50 euros and ideally good for gaming).

Besides that, I've read reviews that the Gigabyte 9070 XT OC can get quite noisy, so I've considered swapping it out for an Asus TUF version of that card, but can anyone who has more knowledge/experience with these two cards comment their thoughts and how big of an issue the noise is.

Finally, I'm definitely not the most tech-savvy, so if you see anything else in the build that looks unsuitable (or not ideal for gaming), then please let me know.

Thank you in advance! :)

EDIT:

Approximate Purchase Date: within the next 2-8 weeks

Budget Range: 2000-2500 euros

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade: Full buy

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Not too sure, at the moment I have looked at my local websites in Estonia that most likely do their ordering from various European warehouses.

Location: Estonia

Parts Preferences: AMD, Kingston, Corsair, Asus.

Overclocking: Maybe

Multiple GPUs: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I would like a PC that does not make that much noise when gaming, which is why I'm considering Asus TUF 9070XT OC GPU as I've heard it's better in terms of noise than some other competitors. The new PC would be used to play AAA games from the last 5-10 years as well as World of Warcraft, Runescape and such.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I tried to play the new Indiana Jones game and the game didn't even open as my current PC is too old (from 2016-2017).

Confirmed parts that I want to have:

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

At least a 16GB GPU that is quiet and from a (more or less) trusted company.

3-4 TB of SSD, 4-5 TB of HDD (both from Samsung, Kingston, Seagate or other trusted brands).
This latest generation of AMD and Nvidia cards support PCIe 5.0 so I would look for a board that supports PCIe 5.0 for the graphics card. This puts you into a better quality SSD and gives you a decent 1440P gaming monitor. That Asus card down below includes dual bios so as to not run so loud.

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=MSI+B850+GAMING+PLUS+WIFI
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B850-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI
MSI B850 GAMING PLUS WIFI €202.00

https://www.hind.ee/p/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D €362.00

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=be+quiet!+Pure+Rock+Pro+3
https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/5599
be quiet! Pure Rock Pro 3 €41.86

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=KF560C30BBEK2-32
Kingston FURY Beast DDR5-6000 32GB (2x16GB) CL30 €105.82

https://www.hind.ee/p/lexar-nm790-m-2-4tb/
Lexar NM790 4TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD €240.80

https://www.hind.ee/p/asus-radeon-rx-9070-xt-prime-oc-16gb-ddr6/
Asus PRIME OC Radeon RX 9070 XT 16GB €705.04

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=MSI+MAG+A850GL
https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A850GL-PCIE5
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W ATX 3.0 €112.60

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=Montech+AIR+903+BASE
Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case €72.90

Total: €1843.02

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/windows-11-free-or-cheap

https://www.hind.ee/p/msi-g272qpf-e2
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/G272QPF-E2
MSI G272QPF E2 27.0" 2560x1440 180Hz 1ms IPS Gaming Monitor €229.99
 
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This latest generation of AMD and Nvidia cards support PCIe 5.0 so I would look for a board that supports PCIe 5.0 for the graphics card. This puts you into a better quality SSD and gives you a decent 1440P gaming monitor. That Asus card down below includes dual bios so as to not run so loud.

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=MSI+B850+GAMING+PLUS+WIFI
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B850-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI
MSI B850 GAMING PLUS WIFI €202.00

https://www.hind.ee/p/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D €362.00

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=be+quiet!+Pure+Rock+Pro+3
https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/5599
be quiet! Pure Rock Pro 3 €41.86

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=KF560C30BBEK2-32
Kingston FURY Beast DDR5-6000 32GB (2x16GB) CL30 €105.82

https://www.hind.ee/p/lexar-nm790-m-2-4tb/
Lexar NM790 4TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD €240.80

https://www.hind.ee/p/asus-radeon-rx-9070-xt-prime-oc-16gb-ddr6/
Asus PRIME OC Radeon RX 9070 XT 16GB €705.04

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=MSI+MAG+A850GL
https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A850GL-PCIE5
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W ATX 3.0 €112.60

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=Montech+AIR+903+BASE
Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case €72.90

Total: €1843.02

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/windows-11-free-or-cheap

https://www.hind.ee/p/msi-g272qpf-e2
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/G272QPF-E2
MSI G272QPF E2 27.0" 2560x1440 180Hz 1ms IPS Gaming Monitor €229.99
@Valkyrie95 this board gives you plenty of PCIe lanes / bandwidth for multiple M.2 SSD's. Change this board out with the one up above and add this drive to that build thus giving you 6TB of storage.

https://www.hind.ee/search?q=MSI+X670E+GAMING+PLUS+WIFI
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X670E-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI
MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI €231.87

https://www.hind.ee/p/lexar-nm790-m-2-2tb
Lexar NM790 2TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD €122.45

Total: €1995.34

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Not sure id touch Nvidia cards at the moment ..

Not because i usually buy AMD either ..

More so with the driver issues and other things that a hurting Nvidia ..

And thats not to say run out and buy AMD either ..

I would wait and see what Intel bring with the b770 then make a choice !!

100% stretch for the 870 series at this point 650 670s are really pointless ..

Im going to stick with my ROG crosshair x670e gene because its a higher end board and should do fine till AM6 ..
 
Hello again

Thank you to everyone who has given their contribution and apologies for not getting back sooner. As a result of your input + some additional googling, I've come up with the following build. This is how I would like to keep the build without changing anything, so please let me know what you think of it (i.e. the PSU being exceptionally bad or mobo too weak compared to CPU/GPU etc):

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dtxsfd

1. AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 5.2GHz AM5 8C/16T CPU

2. MSI B850 GAMING PLUS WIFI AM5 DDR5

3. Kingston FURY Beast Black EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MT/s CL30

4.
1) KINGSTON 4TB NV3 M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
2) Seagate Barracuda 4TB SATA 3.0 HDD
3) KINGSTON 500GB NV3 M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 SSD (for Windows + programs, as suggested above by others)

5. MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 II 850W GOLD PSU

6. Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE CPU cooler - 120 mm

7. Kolink Unity Lateral ARGB Midi-Tower - Black

8. ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon™ RX 9070 XT OC Edition 16GB GDDR6

Thank you in advance! :)