Buying new CPU/mobo Need some help

[Waffles_1]

So iv been bottle-necking my Currecnt CPU with the new black ops 4 Royale.so i thought its about time to upgrade.

here are my specs currently https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cTZdtg

If anyone could recommend a good new Mobo and CPU Pref for overclocking in the future
Got a budget of around £400 for both(if possible save a little of it for a new Tower)

 

[jimmysmitty]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

You can reuse the memory and thats $308.00 so you have either some room for a new tower or you can move up to say the Ryzen 2700 for some more cores.

 

[ChumP]

The i5 6500 won't bottleneck a GTX 1060.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

There really shouldn't be a bottlenck on that setup.

 

[SgtScream]

It depends on the game(s). What are they and what resolution/refresh rate is your monitor?

 

[Waffles_1]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

You can reuse the memory and thats $308.00 so you have either some room for a new tower or you can move up to say the Ryzen 2700 for some more cores.

The list is empty =(

 

[Waffles_1]

It depends on the game(s). What are they and what resolution/refresh rate is your monitor?

27-Inch-Monitor- 1920X1080 with 60Hrz refreshrate

 

[Waffles_1]

There really shouldn't be a bottlenck on that setup.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3815969/black-ops-fps-1060-6gb.html That is how we found out =(

 

[SgtScream]

If you're getting between 60-80 fps in your games there is no bottleneck and your performance is optimal.

 

[Waffles_1]

If you're getting between 60-80 fps in your games there is no bottleneck and your performance is optimal.

my CPU was hitting 100% whenever i loaded in and my FPS would not change by much at all when i went from high>low settings

 

[captaincharisma]

that CPU and GPU should be enough to play games at that resolution. if you were trying to play at 4K then there might be a hardware limitation but not when playing at 1080P

 

[SgtScream]

In what game?

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

You can reuse the memory and thats $308.00 so you have either some room for a new tower or you can move up to say the Ryzen 2700 for some more cores.

No list link , just home page.

 

[Waffles_1]

that CPU and GPU should be enough to play games at that resolution. if you were trying to play at 4K then there might be a hardware limitation but not when playing at 1080P

In what game?

Black ops 4 blackout
i was told its VERY CPU needy and that is why its hitting 100% and need a new/better CPU
But iv been looking to replace my CPU and MOBO to more of a overclocking mobo and CPU so when i get this problem again i can just boost it abit

 

[SgtScream]

Update your bios and purchase an i7 7700. I can't believe how much cpu resources are used with that game. I have a Ryzen 1700 and it uses all 16 threads between 60-80% load.

 

[captaincharisma]

If you're getting between 60-80 fps in your games there is no bottleneck and your performance is optimal.

my CPU was hitting 100% whenever i loaded in and my FPS would not change by much at all when i went from high>low settings

here are the recommended requirements for playing games at 1080P at 60hz

Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 system requirements (recommended)
OS: Windows 10 64-bit
CPU: Intel i5-2500K / Ryzen R5 1600X
RAM: 12GB GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 / GTX 1060 6GB or AMD Radeon R9 390 / AMD RX 580
HDD: 55GB HD space
DirectX: Version 11.0 compatible video card or equivalent
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible

judging from the requirements there is something else going on with your setup

 

[SgtScream]

Yeah that's true, if you're getting frame rates between 60-80 with that monitor I wouldn't change anything. That is optimal even if your cpu load is high.

 

[Waffles_1]

If you're getting between 60-80 fps in your games there is no bottleneck and your performance is optimal.

my CPU was hitting 100% whenever i loaded in and my FPS would not change by much at all when i went from high>low settings

here are the recommended requirements for playing games at 1080P at 60hz

Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 system requirements (recommended)
OS: Windows 10 64-bit
CPU: Intel i5-2500K / Ryzen R5 1600X
RAM: 12GB GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 / GTX 1060 6GB or AMD Radeon R9 390 / AMD RX 580
HDD: 55GB HD space
DirectX: Version 11.0 compatible video card or equivalent
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible

judging from the requirements there is something else going on with your setup

Feel free to help me out here http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3815969/black-ops-fps-1060-6gb.html
They say my everything is fine its just the CPU load ( maybe a dodgey CPU )
Got Screenshots and stuff in this post

 

[jimmysmitty]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

You can reuse the memory and thats $308.00 so you have either some room for a new tower or you can move up to say the Ryzen 2700 for some more cores.

No list link , just home page.[/quotemsg]


Yea I noticed that.

Still looks like his setup is optimal so he might not even need it.

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/h2V8MZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/h2V8MZ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£143.86 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£164.99 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £308.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-07 15:27 GMT+0000

 

[Waffles_1]

So if i went with this setup i would be Ok for a upcoming games and be able to overclock if its just not quite there?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qKshTB
Big price difference in the Ryzen 5 2600 and the Ryzen 7 2700 but they seem almost similar

 

[geofelt]

The strongest processor your motherboard will support would be a I7-7700K.
It sells for £275.00 or so on ebay.
Your motherboard does not support overclocking, but the K is faster at stick than the plain i7-7700.
You also get 4 more threads if that is important.

For the very fastest overclockable processor, look to the newest 9th gen intel processors and a Z390 motherboard.
Pick the number of threads you need.
i5-9600K has 6
I7-9700K has 8 and the i9-9900K has 12.
Not yet available will be the I3-9350K with 4.
All of the new K processors will overclock to the 5.0 range.

Your experiment with lowering the resolution does indicate a cpu limitation.
It is not clear if that limitation is a lack of threads or a lack of single thread performance.

Here is a back handed way to get some idea.

Limit your cpu, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 80%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 20% improvement in core speed might do.

You could also experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.

 

[SgtScream]

What is your fps like when playing BLOPS IIII?

 

[SgtScream]

What is your render resolution set at in the game?

 

[Waffles_1]

What is your fps like when playing BLOPS IIII?

on blackout 40-60
mutliplayer 50-100 depending on the map
zombies 60-80
1920-1080

 

[jimmysmitty]

So if i went with this setup i would be Ok for a upcoming games and be able to overclock if its just not quite there?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qKshTB
Big price difference in the Ryzen 5 2600 and the Ryzen 7 2700 but they seem almost similar

2 core difference is the biggest thing between the 2600 and 2700 but yea about $100 more for the 2700.

However if you want to go that route, yes that would be a decent setup for now and the foreseeable future. Overclocking for Ryzen though is not as prominent as Intel. The 2700 for example typically can push to 4.3GHz which is the normal max turbo boost range for that CPU while most of Intels chips turbo boost beyond that and can typically be clocked to near 5GHz or more depending on the cores (more cores normally means less in clock speed and stability). So if you want top speed and overclocking room then Intel is the route to go.

Downside is Intel is currently more expensive. The i9 9900K is the equivalent to the Ryzen 2700X. It turbo boosts all cores to 4.7GHz and if its 2 cores 5GHz. Most samples seem to get to 5GHz on a good water cooler though on all cores. However it is $600 right now due to price gouging resellers and production issues for Intel, their 14nm is stretched thin as they have too may products using it.