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Hi All,

Looking at a new PC, see below for choices so far, thoughts?

  • CPU =$485 Intel® Core™ Processor i9-14900K 8P/16 + 16E 3.20GHz [Turbo 6.0GHz] 36MB Cache LGA1700
  • Mobo =$220 ASUS PRIME Z790-P WIFI D5 DDR5 ATX w/ Wi-Fi 6, 2.5GbT LAN, (4)PCIe x16,(1)PCIe x1, (3)M.2, (4)SATA
  • PSU = $170 1,000 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Gold w/ PCIE 12+4Pins Connector for PCIe 5.0 graphics cards
  • GPU = $1200 MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4080 16GB GDRR6X 256-Bit HDMI/DP Nvlink Tri-Frozr 3 Ada Lovelace Architecture Graphics Card (RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC)
  • Case = $150 LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic EVO XL Full-Tower Dual chamber Gaming Case Seamless View Tempered glass on the front & side [No Fan] (Black Color)
  • Cooling = $160 Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Elite Liquid CPU Cooler
  • RAM = $127 G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series (Intel XMP 3.0) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 7200MT/s CL34-45-45-115 1.40V Desktop Computer Memory UDIMM
  • SSD Boot HD = $90 ADATA 2TB SSD Legend 850 LITE, NVMe PCIe Gen4 x 4 M.2 2280 Internal Solid State Drive, Speed up to 5,000MB/s

total = $2600

Some questions:
1. Been awhile since I updated a PC, not familiar with liquid cooling, any advice or recommendations or things to watch for in general? Plan to watch some youtube install vids first…
2. Looking for really quiet fans, any suggestions or do you think the above will be pretty quiet?
3. I want to somewhat future proof this and be able to plug in a RTX 5090 or even 6090, should I go to 1200W PSU, anything else look like it could be a problem for next gen GPUs?


Using the following for benchmarks,
GPU = https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu-benchmark-graphics-card-comparison-chart
CPU = https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html
 
Hi All,

Looking at a new PC, see below for choices so far, thoughts?

  • CPU =$485 Intel® Core™ Processor i9-14900K 8P/16 + 16E 3.20GHz [Turbo 6.0GHz] 36MB Cache LGA1700
  • Mobo =$220 ASUS PRIME Z790-P WIFI D5 DDR5 ATX w/ Wi-Fi 6, 2.5GbT LAN, (4)PCIe x16,(1)PCIe x1, (3)M.2, (4)SATA
  • PSU = $170 1,000 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Gold w/ PCIE 12+4Pins Connector for PCIe 5.0 graphics cards
  • GPU = $1200 MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4080 16GB GDRR6X 256-Bit HDMI/DP Nvlink Tri-Frozr 3 Ada Lovelace Architecture Graphics Card (RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC)
  • Case = $150 LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic EVO XL Full-Tower Dual chamber Gaming Case Seamless View Tempered glass on the front & side [No Fan] (Black Color)
  • Cooling = $160 Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Elite Liquid CPU Cooler
  • RAM = $127 G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series (Intel XMP 3.0) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 7200MT/s CL34-45-45-115 1.40V Desktop Computer Memory UDIMM
  • SSD Boot HD = $90 ADATA 2TB SSD Legend 850 LITE, NVMe PCIe Gen4 x 4 M.2 2280 Internal Solid State Drive, Speed up to 5,000MB/s

total = $2600

Some questions:
1. Been awhile since I updated a PC, not familiar with liquid cooling, any advice or recommendations or things to watch for in general? Plan to watch some youtube install vids first…
2. Looking for really quiet fans, any suggestions or do you think the above will be pretty quiet?
3. I want to somewhat future proof this and be able to plug in a RTX 5090 or even 6090, should I go to 1200W PSU, anything else look like it could be a problem for next gen GPUs?


Using the following for benchmarks,
GPU = https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu-benchmark-graphics-card-comparison-chart
CPU = https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html
That board with its 14 phase power design isn't really cut out for that 14 gen unlocked i9. I'd also be looking at a case that fits a 420 AIO such as the lian Li Lancool III.

 
Some questions:
1. Been awhile since I updated a PC, not familiar with liquid cooling, any advice or recommendations or things to watch for in general? Plan to watch some youtube install vids first…
2. Looking for really quiet fans, any suggestions or do you think the above will be pretty quiet?
3. I want to somewhat future proof this and be able to plug in a RTX 5090 or even 6090, should I go to 1200W PSU, anything else look like it could be a problem for next gen GPUs?


Using the following for benchmarks,
GPU = https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu-benchmark-graphics-card-comparison-chart
CPU = https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

This wouldn't happen to be a Cyberpower purchase would it? If so do not buy. Cyberpower is an absolute joke among serious system builders and enthusiasts due to their overall poor build quality and overuse of generic components. As has already been said, pairing a generic PSU with a 4090 is already bad news. And there's potentially lots of other red flags too.

Upgrading to a 14900K won't make this future proof necessarily, especially for gaming. Anything more than an i7 and in most cases, an i5, is diminishing marginal returns on your purchase. In other words, you won't get the benefits you paid for, for use in a gaming environment.
 
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If you were to build it yourself while taking in most of the tips above you would end up with something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($401.60 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($130.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($289.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7000 CL32 Memory ($116.49 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus W/Heatsink 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1199.99 @ ASUS)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.00 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMe (2023) 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2668.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Standard PSU = red flag to me what exact make and model PSU.

The rest depends on what the PC will be used for.
oops that was a mistake should have been = Corsair RM1000x (2021) Fully Modular ATX Power Supply - 80 PLUS Gold - Low-Noise Fan - Zero RPM

updated original post... thanks...
 
If you were to build it yourself while taking in most of the tips above you would end up with something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($401.60 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($130.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($289.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7000 CL32 Memory ($116.49 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus W/Heatsink 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1199.99 @ ASUS)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.00 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMe (2023) 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2668.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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awesome, thank you helper800... why did you choose the Intel Core i7-14700K over the i9-14900K, other than cost was there a reason?
 
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If you were to build it yourself while taking in most of the tips above you would end up with something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($401.60 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($130.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($289.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7000 CL32 Memory ($116.49 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus W/Heatsink 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1199.99 @ ASUS)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.00 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMe (2023) 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2668.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-30 14:59 EST-0500

Also, if you could spend $400 more helper800, what would you upgrade? Also, would like to be able to put in a RTX 5090 or even RTX 6090 in the future if possible...

Main use = gaming PC, Cyberpunk 2077 , Elden Ring ...etc
 
This wouldn't happen to be a Cyberpower purchase would it? If so do not buy. Cyberpower is an absolute joke among serious system builders and enthusiasts due to their overall poor build quality and overuse of generic components. As has already been said, pairing a generic PSU with a 4090 is already bad news. And there's potentially lots of other red flags too.

Upgrading to a 14900K won't make this future proof necessarily, especially for gaming. Anything more than an i7 and in most cases, an i5, is diminishing marginal returns on your purchase. In other words, you won't get the benefits you paid for, for use in a gaming environment.
I got some of the ideas from Cyberpower and ibuypower but plan to build myself, here is the case = link
 
That is a 4K monitor you need a 4090 video card.
You can drop down to a 14600K and probably fit it in your budget. Also would require less cooling.
@4K resolution the video card means a lot more than the processor the 14600K would be a much better choice if you can get the 4090 with it.
 
That is a 4K monitor you need a 4090 video card.
You can drop down to a 14600K and probably fit it in your budget. Also would require less cooling.
@4K resolution the video card means a lot more than the processor the 14600K would be a much better choice if you can get the 4090 with it.
so this guy I was watching the other day was gaming at 4K with a RTX 4080 and seemed to think it was fine, why are you saying I would need a 4090?

Can you game at 4K 144 FPS with the RTX 4080

is it to ensure the FPS are always above the 144... is the adaptive sync crap?

thanks for your comment by the way, much appreciated...
 
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If you were to build it yourself while taking in most of the tips above you would end up with something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($401.60 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($130.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($289.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7000 CL32 Memory ($116.49 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus W/Heatsink 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1199.99 @ ASUS)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.00 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMe (2023) 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2668.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-30 14:59 EST-0500

I'm liking this much better than mine, thanks again helper800...
 
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My opinion on Raptor Lake Refresh is that it's great for peeps doing a lot of productivity work such as video editing for example but it more or less does nothing for gamers and the casual user. E-cores don't do much for gaming and that's what Intel has been doing these past few years .. adding more E-cores. As far as monitor resolution goes for gaming ... 1440P is the sweet spot. It allows you great frames per second without breaking the bank while giving you a solid picture.

I'd run that build like this. Replace the 140mm fan that's included with that case with the 140mm ARBG fan down below. Easy to work with case that has great airflow and offers plenty of options. This gpu (RTX 4080 Super 20GB) is due for release this January. You can use the integrated graphics that come with this cpu until then.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($340.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool LS720 SE 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: *MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit ($123.94 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 77.6 CFM 140 mm Fan ($27.99 @ Adorama)
Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ3A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor ($246.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1543.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-30 19:47 EST-0500


A better look at those components.

https://www.asus.com/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg27aq3a/

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html

https://us.deepcool.com/products/Co...m-Liquid-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16473.shtml

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/374/1649235161/F5-6000J3040F16GX2-TZ5RK-F5-6000J3040F16GA2-TZ5RK

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850x-nvme-ssd?sku=WDS200T2X0E

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A1000G-PCIE5


Add this to that case.
https://www.amazon.com/Lian-Li-Lancool-Controller-Black/dp/B0BNGMFN9R
Lian Li Lancool 216 RGB Controller (Black) $16.99

And you end up with something like this.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmpaN61OISA


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TfR60pM5oU


Expect the RTX 4080 Super 20GB to sit between the RTX 4090 24GB and the RX 7900 XTX 24GB on here.

average-fps-2560-1440.png
 
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My opinion on Raptor Lake Refresh is that it's great for peeps doing a lot of productivity work such as video editing for example but it more or less does nothing for gamers and the casual user. E-cores don't do much for gaming and that's what Intel has been doing these past few years .. adding more E-cores. As far as monitor resolution goes for gaming ... 1440P is the sweet spot. It allows you great frames per second without breaking the bank while giving you a solid picture.

I'd run that build like this. Replace the 140mm fan that's included with that case with the 140mm ARBG fan down below. Easy to work with case that has great airflow and offers plenty of options. This gpu (RTX 4080 Super 20GB) is due for release this January. You can use the integrated graphics that come with this cpu until then.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($340.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool LS720 SE 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: *MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit ($123.94 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 77.6 CFM 140 mm Fan ($27.99 @ Adorama)
Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ3A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor ($246.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1543.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-30 19:47 EST-0500


A better look at those components.

https://www.asus.com/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg27aq3a/

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html

https://us.deepcool.com/products/Co...m-Liquid-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16473.shtml

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/374/1649235161/F5-6000J3040F16GX2-TZ5RK-F5-6000J3040F16GA2-TZ5RK

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850x-nvme-ssd?sku=WDS200T2X0E

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A1000G-PCIE5


Add this to that case.
https://www.amazon.com/Lian-Li-Lancool-Controller-Black/dp/B0BNGMFN9R
Lian Li Lancool 216 RGB Controller (Black) $16.99

And you end up with something like this.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmpaN61OISA


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TfR60pM5oU


Expect the RTX 4080 Super 29GB to sit between the RTX 4090 24GB and the RX 7900 XTX 24GB on here.

average-fps-2560-1440.png
thank you Why_Me, lots to digest, is the TX 4080 Super 20GB the RTX 4080 Ti or is that coming even later?

Hard to wait until after xmas, have 2 weeks vacation from dec 15 to jan2 ...ughh...
 
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thank you Why_Me, lot's to digest, is the TX 4080 Super 20GB the RTX 4080 Ti or is that coming even later?

Hard to wait until after xmas, have 2 weeks vacation from dec 15 to jan2 ...ughh...
In normal circumstances that gpu should have been named RTX 4080 Ti 20GB. Personally I like the 'Ti' name better than 'Super'. Less to type and easy to remember. You can purchase everything now but the gpu. Use the integrated graphics that comes with that cpu for now and once that card is released jump on it.
 
Pretty much all new cpu coolers these days include decent thermal paste.
okay, I was thinking in case I scratch it or F it up in some way, usually they are so cheap anyways... might still order some, don't want to delay my $2600 build waiting for a ten dollar thing...
 
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so this guy I was watching the other day was gaming at 4K with a RTX 4080 and seemed to think it was fine, why are you saying I would need a 4090?

Can you game at 4K 144 FPS with the RTX 4080

is it to ensure the FPS are always above the 144... is the adaptive sync crap?

thanks for your comment by the way, much appreciated...
Using DLSS in more demanding titles the 4080 would work @ 4K. Like he said most people can't tell the difference about like max and high settings most people can't tell the difference.

The 4090 is massively overpriced, I might wait till after the first of the year and see what the 4080 Super performance to price will be.

For gaming the 14700K will be all you need.
 
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Here's the differences between the 13700K and 14700K in regards to frames per second, power consumption, etc .. I would post the review from this site but for some arsenine reason Tom's refuses to install a dropdown menu in their reviews.

P-cores (big cores) are what counts for gamers and casual users. E-cores (little cores) are more or less helper cores for peeps who are into using multi threaded apps / programs.

Look on here for P-cores and E-cores and do the math.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-33m-cache-up-to-5-60-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/

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I got some of the ideas from Cyberpower and ibuypower but plan to build myself, here is the case = link

Definitely a solid case choice for sure. You can't go wrong with Lian Li. If you want an alternate suggestion, I would suggest taking a look at the Phanteks NV5.

Here's the differences between the 13700K and 14700K in regards to frames per second, power consumption, etc .. I would post the review from this site but for some arsenine reason Tom's refuses to install a dropdown menu in their reviews.

The difference is literally like 3.5 FPS, it's not enough to make that much of a difference. It's a 0.01% increase over the previous generation.
 
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