BX-133 w/ Tualley-S doesn't reboot

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Hi all,

This should be the last in my ongoing saga about modding my old BX-133's.
The board that I bought the Lin-Lin and P-III-S cpu for doesn't like to
reboot. This vaguely rings a bell, but my memory is so shot that I can't
recall what the scoop was. When you choose restart from WinME, the system
shuts down to a black screen and remains there. Pressing 'reset' has no
effect. Upon shutting the machine off and turning it back on (power switch
is in 5 second delay mode, so no problems there either) the system boots
normally and runs well. Very well. I'm really impressed with the
performance on MPEG authoring/conversion.

BX133 with Lin-Lin and Tualatin 1.4GHz/512K running at 1.55G @ 38.5
degreeC (no, the clocking from 122-144MHz makes no difference, and the temp
varies only 2 degrees. It could go higher but I'm afraid the GF3 video
would melt down.)

System functioned perfectly before the addition of the cpu, so the other
components shouldn't be an issue, unless the ABIT GF3 Siluro running at a
bus speed of 96MHz is a factor in this.

Thanx for your thoughts.

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[Spajky]

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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:12:05 -0500, "Phr3d" <Gwaihir@Orthanc.com>
wrote:

>This should be the last in my ongoing saga about modding my old BX-133's.
>The board that I bought the Lin-Lin and P-III-S cpu for doesn't like to
>reboot.

>the system boots
>normally and runs well. Very well. I'm really impressed with the
>performance

>BX133 with Lin-Lin and Tualatin 1.4GHz/512K running at 1.55G @ 38.5
>degreeC (no, the clocking from 122-144MHz makes no difference, and the temp
>varies only 2 degrees. It could go higher but I'm afraid the GF3 video
>would melt down.)

it will not ....
>
>System functioned perfectly before the addition of the cpu, so the other
>components shouldn't be an issue, unless the ABIT GF3 Siluro running at a
>bus speed of 96MHz is a factor in this.

check the caps, check how voltage mosfets running hot,
see the high AGP clock fix for nVidia cards on my site (how I did it
with mine ...

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Hi Spajky,

ok, I'm not sure I follow here, do I need to cool the voltage mosfets? The
caps were replaced by homie, else I don't think it would run at all <lol>.
Everything functions well, not a worst case burn-in but Deux Ex is a nasty
little number - it performs perfectly @ 1280 for hours, and my DV AVI to
MPEG conversions complete in about 1/2 to 2/3 the time of the 1.1a/128 that
the Tualley replaced.

System temp is 35 degrees C.

I'll try the Irongate dword someday, but I've reached my 'goal' of 1.5GHz,
so I don't need additional speed, and the card seems ok with the 96MHz. I
just wish I didn't have to turn the damn thing off to "reboot". Or do you
think the irongate setting will lower the speed to the AGP?

Thanx for all the info on the site, I'm still following the links, so maybe
something else will turn up.


"Spajky" <Spajky##@volja.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:12:05 -0500, "Phr3d" <Gwaihir@Orthanc.com>
> wrote:
>
> >This should be the last in my ongoing saga about modding my old BX-133's.
> >The board that I bought the Lin-Lin and P-III-S cpu for doesn't like to
> >reboot.
>
> >the system boots
> >normally and runs well. Very well. I'm really impressed with the
> >performance
>
> >BX133 with Lin-Lin and Tualatin 1.4GHz/512K running at 1.55G @ 38.5
> >degreeC (no, the clocking from 122-144MHz makes no difference, and the
temp
> >varies only 2 degrees. It could go higher but I'm afraid the GF3 video
> >would melt down.)
>
> it will not ....
> >
> >System functioned perfectly before the addition of the cpu, so the other
> >components shouldn't be an issue, unless the ABIT GF3 Siluro running at a
> >bus speed of 96MHz is a factor in this.
>
> check the caps, check how voltage mosfets running hot,
> see the high AGP clock fix for nVidia cards on my site (how I did it
> with mine ...
>
> --
> Happy Easter & Regards, SPAJKY ®
> & visit my site @ http://www.spajky.vze.com
> "Tualatin OC-ed / BX-Slot1 / inaudible setup!"
> E-mail AntiSpam: remove ##

 

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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:09:18 -0500, "Phr3d" <Gwaihir@Orthanc.com>
wrote:

>ok, I'm not sure I follow here, do I need to cool the voltage mosfets?

No, but I recommend that (since they were not ment to support such
current & voltage difference, they heat more than they should with
Tuallies & if they are a weaker ones, may overheat at summer & blow
up)

>I'll try the Irongate dword someday, but I've reached my 'goal' of 1.5GHz,
>so I don't need additional speed, and the card seems ok with the 96MHz. I
>just wish I didn't have to turn the damn thing off to "reboot". Or do you
>think the irongate setting will lower the speed to the AGP?

It seems that it lowers texture data transfer (not actually AGP
clock!)

>Thanx for all the info on the site, I'm still following the links, so maybe
>something else will turn up.

BTW, do you cool additionally also BX NB?
It may help stability using higher FSB frequencies!
I have a small fan on my "greenie" ...
also try to move around mem sticks a bit /maybe leave the 2nd empty.

The next thing would be checking the clock generator if it heats (mine
does not!) & maybe voltage controller chip (closest to mosfets), who
knows ... sometimes I2C data supplied to clock generator gets screwed
& doesn´t wanna boot up the MoBo after reset (hard or soft way),
usually helps powering machine off for few seconds; sometimes needed
also TL powering it off by pulling out the mains cable (or switch off
PSU).

May be also incomplete compatibility between that LinLin
adapter & MoBo (seen that with some slotkets & other MoBos). In the
last 2y there were some reports with different versions of BX133 using
not the same "Mod" to work them properly (looks alike there are some
small differences between versions & their Bios-es ...)

But the main question is:
Does the MoBo acts the same (the reboot problem) after freshly booted
Win, or just later, when it gets heated up a bit after certain time of
use?

--
Regards, SPAJKY ®
& visit my site @ http://www.spajky.vze.com
"Tualatin OC-ed / BX-Slot1 / inaudible setup!"
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"Spajky" <Spajky##@volja.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:09:18 -0500, "Phr3d" <Gwaihir@Orthanc.com>
> wrote:
>
> >ok, I'm not sure I follow here, do I need to cool the voltage mosfets?
>
> No, but I recommend that (since they were not ment to support such
> current & voltage difference, they heat more than they should with
> Tuallies & if they are a weaker ones, may overheat at summer & blow
> up)
>
> >I'll try the Irongate dword someday, but I've reached my 'goal' of
1.5GHz,
> >so I don't need additional speed, and the card seems ok with the 96MHz.
I
> >just wish I didn't have to turn the damn thing off to "reboot". Or do
you
> >think the irongate setting will lower the speed to the AGP?
>
> It seems that it lowers texture data transfer (not actually AGP
> clock!)
>
> >Thanx for all the info on the site, I'm still following the links, so
maybe
> >something else will turn up.
>
> BTW, do you cool additionally also BX NB?
> It may help stability using higher FSB frequencies!
> I have a small fan on my "greenie" ...
> also try to move around mem sticks a bit /maybe leave the 2nd empty.

I have a Taisol heat pipe that draws cooling air across the 'greenie, but
that's it.
Memory position doesn't make a difference.

>
> The next thing would be checking the clock generator if it heats (mine
> does not!) & maybe voltage controller chip (closest to mosfets), who
> knows ... sometimes I2C data supplied to clock generator gets screwed
> & doesn´t wanna boot up the MoBo after reset (hard or soft way),
> usually helps powering machine off for few seconds; sometimes needed
> also TL powering it off by pulling out the mains cable (or switch off
> PSU).
>
> May be also incomplete compatibility between that LinLin
> adapter & MoBo (seen that with some slotkets & other MoBos). In the
> last 2y there were some reports with different versions of BX133 using
> not the same "Mod" to work them properly (looks alike there are some
> small differences between versions & their Bios-es ...)

I am seeing those differences. For instance some have 6 pci, some have 5.
I wish it wasn't so miserable to switch the poor thing around, I wonder if
it would work on one of the other ones (I have three).. hm.. The LinLin
doesn't really fit, you hafta' kinda' wrench it in there. I'd rather not do
it again <heheh>.

>
> But the main question is:
> Does the MoBo acts the same (the reboot problem) after freshly booted
> Win, or just later, when it gets heated up a bit after certain time of
> use?

Cold or 'Hot', makes no difference. One *New* thing -- if you wait long
enough (my wife discovered this, patience is obviously not my best quality),
usually until the monitor brings up it's 'entering power save' message, then
the 'reset' button Does function. So that is a huge improvement to
reaching down for five seconds (atx) or around back to the PSU on/off.

>
> --
> Regards, SPAJKY ®
> & visit my site @ http://www.spajky.vze.com
> "Tualatin OC-ed / BX-Slot1 / inaudible setup!"
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:43:19 -0500, "Phr3d" <Gwaihir@Orthanc.com>
wrote:

>Cold or 'Hot', makes no difference. One *New* thing -- if you wait long
>enough (my wife discovered this, patience is obviously not my best quality),
>usually until the monitor brings up it's 'entering power save' message, then
>the 'reset' button Does function. So that is a huge improvement to
>reaching down for five seconds (atx) or around back to the PSU on/off.

.... yeah, it looks like is a IMHO software (on Mobo serial SMbus -
I2C) - firmware/Bios problem with some hardware, locking up the clock
generator or elses data at least temporarly ... could be related to
your specific revision of your MoBo or IDE controler chip ... have no
further idea how to troubleshoot ...

..... maybe installing OS w/o ACPI could help; disabling it in Bios &
disabling there also awareness of P&P OS may help .... no further idea
anymore ... :-(

--
Regards, SPAJKY ®
& visit my site @ http://www.spajky.vze.com
"Tualatin OC-ed / BX-Slot1 / inaudible setup!"
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