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Doom and Gloom, 1 planned multithreaded app won't come out and QFX won't run any games at 60fps.

BooHoo, poor AMD buyer.

BooHoo.

You got one thing right, anyone buying QuadFX will be crying when they see the power bill! :lol:
 
When Porsche releases a new engine it isn't to be faster than Ferrari's new engine, it's to be faster than Porsche's old engine.

Hey Baron, quit talking about something that you don't know anything about. And the same goes for you about computer stuffs, cuz I think you don't know what you are talking about... all the time. Stop using cars to explain computers. In automotive wolrd, you can't just say a Porche isn't faster than a Ferrari. Which Porche and which Ferrari are you talking about, because both companies are making a whole lot more than 1 model. And a car being fast has only little to do with it's engine.

So do us all a favor, and quit posting.
 
Baron's my forumz buddy and all, but I must say, if you buy QuadFX you will regret it.

Quad FX is inferior in just about every single way. Quad FX is one of the most overwhelming failures I have ever seen.

I know you'll never buy an Intel machine, but do your wallet a favor and hold off on AMD quad until they actually make a quad core processor.

Over on the site which I cannot and will not name I will quote the following that made me wee myself:

An Intel system doesn't have enough bandwidth to handle DDR2 800. The 4x4 can allow 4 gamers play 4 different games at the same time without a glitch.
WHY THE (BLEEP) WOULD SOMEONE WANT TO RUN FOUR INSTANCES OF THE SAME GAME? WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO RUN ANYTHING MORE THAN ONE INSTANCE OF A GAME?


I expect Quad FX to become a cheaper server alternative. 12 SATA drives, 8TB, cheap ram, one such beast can handle 8000 Google mail users or more. With 100,000 such machines, you can kill Google.
I don't even know what the hell that means. Wouldn't Google run their servers on...um... SERVERS? And haven't we had huge multi-processor servers for years?


But true multitasking benchmarks would show Quad FX fragging anything Intel has in stock. As I said long time ago, the right way to measure multitasking performance is to launch multiple instances of the same program and measure the completion time. In this case, one should launch four copies of the same program at the same time.
Who the hell runs the same thing four times over? There's very few instances where one would do that. Basically, Shakira is trying to CREATE ARTIFICIAL BENCHMARKS that somehow put Quad FX on top of Core 2 Quad.



To ALL OF YOU.


Why are you worried about what I do with my money? Do you think I care what your opinion is?

I have never regretted a purchase I made. (Except for the souls I picked up cheap)

I have a 4400+ and an FX70 at 2.7GHz will be

AT LEAST 100% faster. Maybe 300% on multithreaded apps


That is always worth it. Intel doesn't play well with others so I may never buy another Intel chip. I would sell them to you though.

How about that C2Q. And hey it's only $1100+. I mean the best mobo is only $400.

Go for it. I see a $1500 barbones on your future.

lol 300% faster? you must be in the marketing departement, AMD scales worse then Intel ATM, the only 300% figure increase your going to get is price and heat/power consumption.
 
What's sad is that you can't imagine a professional uses multithreaded apps.

I mean REALLY SAD!!

Go away!

:idea: Yeah, having 4 cores via Quad-FX and a multi-threaded Web Browser will let BaronMatrix post +300% faster, using more forum-threads (pun intended) :roll: :lol:

:arrow: Quad-FX will be faster than the Athlon 64 4400+ for sure, but will it be 300% faster (as in 4 times the performance)... only time, and developers of multi-threaded software will tell.

:!: No point talking about future games price/performance, or even just performance, by the time they are available on the market in 9 - 18 months hardware will have improved by around +41.43% (9 months) to +100% (or double, at 18 months) - This is true for both AMD and Intel.

:? Has this thread served its purpose it ?
 
Baron:

Didn't you make a prediction that the two chip system would use about the same amount of current as a single cpu system and get over twice the results? Thats a real shame becuse we all know that all of your other predictions are now fact.

Also are you sure that you really want to buy and use a system that will double the amount of electricity needed? I thouht that you and Al Gore were tight and shared some common interests in prediction and invention.

If a few hundred of these systems are unleashed it will probably step up the global warming situation and rip a hole in the ozone layer.
 
Also are you sure that you really want to buy and use a system that will double the amount of electricity needed? I thouht that you and Al Gore were tight and shared some common interests in prediction and invention.

Didn't you get the memo? With every QuadFX system, AMD will throw in for free a:

powerplant.jpg


:lol:
 
BaronBS nLogic®


BaronBS nLogic® is a unique technology that connects the real world with the unreal, developed by the greatest scientist, inovator and predictor BaronBS(the inventor of 4x4 also). It can be used in various areas of science, but its "dev", developed this technology to measure the performance and the quality of various computer hardware.

The benefit of this briliant method is that no benchmakrs of the hardware are needed, but you will always get the benchmark scores that you have always wanted from your hardware. BaronBS nLogic® is very powerfull technology that can make the life in your own world easier. It also can compensate for your unexplainable conclusions and your great lack of intelegnece and knowledge.

It's concept is very simple and is based on imagination. The amazing results are achieved in few steps:
Step 1: Ignore all facts, techical informations, logical explanations and arguments.
Step 2: Imagine that your hardware is the best and the fastest.
Step 3: Accept your wishes as reality and apply them to your real world.

BaronBS nLogic® is not perfect and is still in development by the greatest C# "dev" he has ever seen in the mirror. If you notice some contradictions with facts, arguments and logical explanations from reality, just repeat the steps until you see the results you wanted.

The power of BaronBS nLogic® is based on few very powerfull features:

- nLogic® Blinds®
The most powerfull feature of BaronBS nLogic® is the nLogic® Blinds®, which ignores the things(facts, arguments, technical data, logical explanations, etc.) that you don't want to see, while it makes you able to see and bias the things that you want to see.

- nLogic® Change Subject®
This is very usefull feature and comes in addition to nLogic® Blinds®. It automaticly starts working whenever someone tries to involve you in the real world. For example, when some one starts talking with arguments, explains by using logic and mentions tehcnical data, which are in contradiction with BaronBS nLogic®, than nLogic® Change Subject® automaticly starts changing the subject of discussion until the discutant give up.

- nLogic® I am the best®
This is a bonus feature wich makes you the best in everythin you can imagine. Its concept is simple but 100% efficient. It isolates you in your imagined world and zeroes your social skills. There you have no competition and simply you are the best in everything you imagine.

So far, the BaronBS nLogic® is supported on the HORDE Operating System only. Microsoft hope that their negotiations with the analyst & "dev" BaronBS will be successfull and that they will get a license to include it in Windows Vista.
 
Jesus, I've seen smarter people clean streets. What you're saying has no logic...I make no sense alot of the time, but you're just being a retard. Quit talking about stuff you know nothing about, stop posting quotes that you can't provide links to and finally stop wasting people's time. Keep w**king to your dead animal p0rn and leave this forum.

Your benchmark results mean nothing and your lack of knowledge suggests that you have some kind of learning difficulty...Tell me - was you mother your dad's sister? Probably...That would explain much...Whya would run 4 games at once? You can't play them all? Justify why you would even think about running 4 games at once.

I don't like intel, but I can admit when they have something going...And this gravy train will be a long time stopping (the gravy train is Intel...Just incase you thought gravy came on trains baronBS)
 
Jesus, I've seen smarter people clean streets. What you're saying has no logic...I make no sense alot of the time, but you're just being a retard. Quit talking about stuff you know nothing about, stop posting quotes that you can't provide links to and finally stop wasting people's time. Keep w**king to your dead animal p0rn and leave this forum.

Your benchmark results mean nothing and your lack of knowledge suggests that you have some kind of learning difficulty...Tell me - was you mother your dad's sister? Probably...That would explain much...Whya would run 4 games at once? You can't play them all? Justify why you would even think about running 4 games at once.

I don't like intel, but I can admit when they have something going...And this gravy train will be a long time stopping (the gravy train is Intel...Just incase you thought gravy came on trains baronBS)
MPD...Multiple Personality Disorder....AKA...CYBIL. 😛 He/She has 4 personalities.
1. Baron Matrix..a janitor
2. Cybil...a disturbed girl
3. Fatality(Johnathen Wendel)...A Pro gamer
4. Bill Gates..top tier DEV/Programmer/CEO of a Company...and one of the worlds most powerful men.

See how trouble starts? Everytime it posts, we have to figure which character he/she is blessing our presence with. :roll:
 
The general public wouldn't really bother with trying to explain something they know nothing about...I know nothing about structural engineering, so in turn I wouldn't try to comment on the job my brother does.

In turn, I know nothing about vehicles, so I wouldn't service my own car...

If you know nothing about something (lets face it, there's something us nerds have limited information on somewhere) that's what these forums are for, there's always someone out their that knows about it (I know very little about the new AMD quad.dual core, that's why I'm not getting involved in the original thread, but some of it is common sense) If you're interested in the subject and wish to know about it, then ask and find out...Don't assume and then quote from an un-named soruce...
 
When Porsche releases a new engine it isn't to be faster than Ferrari's new engine, it's to be faster than Porsche's old engine.

Hey Baron, quit talking about something that you don't know anything about. And the same goes for you about computer stuffs, cuz I think you don't know what you are talking about... all the time. Stop using cars to explain computers. In automotive wolrd, you can't just say a Porche isn't faster than a Ferrari. Which Porche and which Ferrari are you talking about, because both companies are making a whole lot more than 1 model. And a car being fast has only little to do with it's engine.

So do us all a favor, and quit posting.

No can do. This is a free country. Stay out of my threads. I can talk to myself for 8 pages.
 
No can do. This is a free country. Stay out of my threads. I can talk to myself for 8 pages.
There are people visiting this forum, otuside from "your" country.
I am sure you talk to your self, but this is a public forum. You know, people are reading and writing here.
 
When Porsche releases a new engine it isn't to be faster than Ferrari's new engine, it's to be faster than Porsche's old engine.

Hey Baron, quit talking about something that you don't know anything about. And the same goes for you about computer stuffs, cuz I think you don't know what you are talking about... all the time. Stop using cars to explain computers. In automotive wolrd, you can't just say a Porche isn't faster than a Ferrari. Which Porche and which Ferrari are you talking about, because both companies are making a whole lot more than 1 model. And a car being fast has only little to do with it's engine.

So do us all a favor, and quit posting.

No can do. This is a free country. Stay out of my threads. I can talk to myself for 8 pages.

roflmao take note absolutly NO AMD fanboys are backing you up Baron, your by your self here.

I had a dual socket system years ago - Good Old ABit BP6 :lol:
 
Baron:

Didn't you make a prediction that the two chip system would use about the same amount of current as a single cpu system and get over twice the results? Thats a real shame becuse we all know that all of your other predictions are now fact.

Also are you sure that you really want to buy and use a system that will double the amount of electricity needed? I thouht that you and Al Gore were tight and shared some common interests in prediction and invention.

If a few hundred of these systems are unleashed it will probably step up the global warming situation and rip a hole in the ozone layer.

I guess it's like having an OC'd 940 and an OC 965 in the same house, huhn?

Doom and Gloom. Doom and Gloom. Do you really think I said the same as a single sore or as a dual socket wksta?

Begone
 
Step 1: Ignore all idiots, weaklings, illogical explanations and arguments.
Step 2: Imagine that your hardware ets the job done.
Step 3: Accept your reality as wishes and apply them to non-CPU engineers.
 
Baron:

Didn't you make a prediction that the two chip system would use about the same amount of current as a single cpu system and get over twice the results? Thats a real shame becuse we all know that all of your other predictions are now fact.

Also are you sure that you really want to buy and use a system that will double the amount of electricity needed? I thouht that you and Al Gore were tight and shared some common interests in prediction and invention.

If a few hundred of these systems are unleashed it will probably step up the global warming situation and rip a hole in the ozone layer.

I guess it's like having an OC'd 940 and an OC 965 in the same house, huhn?

Doom and Gloom. Doom and Gloom. Do you really think I said the same as a single sore or as a dual socket wksta?

Begone

You guessed wrong, the 965 atleast stayed under half of what the 4x4 system is doing :lol:

LOL Baron dude i really want to see you buy your 4x4 system, i really do. Its going to be so funny like seeing how ignorant people can get just cracks me up.

Your the talk to THG, keep up the work.

Just think to your self, intel can easily bring DIB to desktop/high end and have two quad core conroes with seperate FSB's see your AMD eat dust., but atleast Intel learnt from its mistake, AMD just did what Intel got away from.

AMD started the power/heat wars, now they cant finish what they started.
 
Step 1: Ignore all idiots, weaklings, illogical explanations and arguments.
Step 2: Imagine that your hardware ets the job done.
Step 3: Accept your reality as wishes and apply them to non-CPU engineers.

step one is as flawed as AMDs marketing and its current "high end" products. So your saying, ignore... yourself?

step two - i dont have to "imagine" cause my core 2 duo is quicker then your 4x4 system you dont own (check out the benchmarks, an x6800 gets close to the 4x4 system, half the cores, quater heat/power and its only at 2.93ghz! AND on the older FSB), and btw, even a 486 can get the "work done", depends on when you want it "done" by.

step 3 - perhaps it is you that needs to accept the reality as wishes and apply them - no amount of wishes will make that 4x4 into a decent efficent system.



The diffrence between you and me (and most others here) is the fact that if the AMD does come out with something faster, we gladly accept it as the winner, and buy it at the right price and dont care if its AMD or Intel, but you, your just a sore fanboy.
 
When Porsche releases a new engine it isn't to be faster than Ferrari's new engine, it's to be faster than Porsche's old engine.

Baron, I live in two miles north of Eight Mile (remember that movie?). So I'm just north of Detroit and let's say we know a little something about the automotive industry. Automotive companies don't compete with themselves, they compete with each other. Why does GM have a research and development facility that takes up two square miles of the city I live in (Warren, Michigan)? It's to make better products than what their competitors make.

All companies are like that. Intel drives AMD to be better and AMD drives Intel to be better.
 
Step 2: Imagine that your hardware gets the job done.

If you apply that logic then you'd be buying a Sempron or Celeron. Back when AMD had the best chips (which wasn't too long ago) you'd be touting the benchmarks, you'd be proudly displaying how the FX series was crushing the heat plauged Pentium 4 EE.

Well, the tables have turned. I'm sure they'll turn again, but the next year or so is going to be an Intel year until AMD can counter with something good (4x4 is not that something).
 
http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=32

Baron, here is your Quad Father, go for it man, post some verified benchmarks.

wes

Wait a second. I thought Quad FX was going to be cheaper?


Four-thousand dollars for the FX-70? The low-end of the spectrum? The high-end FX-74 couldn't even come close to Core 2 Quad.

Ship date December 22? Hope this isn't a Christmas present cause you'd be paying a bunch for uber-fast shipping on a very heavy box.

For four-thousand dollars they probably threw in a 20-inch widescreen. Oh wait. Just found this:

No Monitor

Well that sucks...

Power supply.... 1 Kilowatt... That'll be bad for the eletric bill but good for your gas heating bill!

At least it comes with one GeForce 8800.

FAIL.