Can I mount my PSU this way?

[Adam M]

Hi I was wondering using the PSU (link below), can I mount it at the bottom of my case and have it intake air from the case and push it out? I want it to take in the air from the inside, so please don't tell me to have it the other way around (unless you have a big reason to back it up.).

PSU: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m
Case: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc9011059ww

 

[MarkW]

Install it any way you like. It is your system.

 

[cdabc123]

yes you can set it up that way if you want. it might be more efficient the other way because hot air rises but you should be good

 

[atheus]

Yes, you can mount it either way. The reason to intake cool air from outside the case is that the PSU will run cooler, last longer, and be slightly more power efficient.

 

[Rhezner]

Firstly get a PSU that is better than that, it is pretty bad, get something that is tier 1 or 2 from this list
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

It is perfectly fine as far as mounting, you have not need to worry, Why so set on mounting this way?

 

[adamjosiah]

Don't know that one specifically but most psu's will mount both ways and the screw holes will line up exactly the same. Many cases have a filter on the bottom which is why they use the psu as an intake. You can use it as exhaust certainly, just make sure you have enough fans pushing air in

 

[Adam M]

Firstly get a PSU that is better than that, it is pretty bad, get something that is tier 1 or 2 from this list
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

It is perfectly fine as far as mounting, you have not need to worry, Why so set on mounting this way?

For my budget, and the other parts I have selected, this PSU gives much more power than needed and I have seen good reviews. I want to mount it this way for good air flow, 2 (120mm) fans front (intake), 1 (120mm) outtake at back, and the power supply will take some out also, so it isn't completely Positive airflow.

 

[Adam M]

Don't know that one specifically but most psu's will mount both ways and the screw holes will line up exactly the same. Many cases have a filter on the bottom which is why they use the psu as an intake. You can use it as exhaust certainly, just make sure you have enough fans pushing air in

Having 2 fans for an intake and 1 for outtake (120mm) (excluding PSU), is that enough?

 

[Rhezner]

power is not the issue, Not all PSUs are created with equal quality and reliability, this just happens to be a unit with a bad reputation for failing.

Also how are you on a budget and getting a 780t which is a very high end case?

 

[atheus]

That's a pretty normal fan config. In fact many cases just have one intake and one exhaust. Dual intake is better if you're overclocking, though, or have a high end graphics card.

 

[Adam M]

power is not the issue, Not all PSUs are created with equal quality and reliability, this just happens to be a unit with a bad reputation for failing.

Also how are you on a budget and getting a 780t which is a very high end case?

I am putting the majority of it on other stuff (GPU, CPU (especially the CPU), storage).

Here is the full build if you care, budget is around 1100, but I am going willing to go alittle over.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Redstone_Pro_73/saved/#view=gBnqqs (it should be selected and is named all in one)

What do you recommend for a good PSU for this amount of Power (most inexpensive but with quality)

 

[Rhezner]

I would not at all recommend that PSU for this build, also if you are using this for gaming the parts are not really balanced at all and this wont game very well at all for 1100$. For rendering it is a decent build that could be improved a bit, other than the PSU which is really bad for this build.

 

[adamjosiah]

Yea dual intake should do the trick

 

[Adam M]

I would not at all recommend that PSU for this build, also if you are using this for gaming the parts are not really balanced at all and this wont game very well at all for 1100$. For rendering it is a decent build that could be improved a bit, other than the PSU which is really bad for this build.

Can you tell me a good PSU for it's price then? It will game alittle bit, but for most of the time run as a server for some small game servers. I will only run it as a server for like 21 hours a week (avg) and not straight (even among the days mostly).

 

[Rhezner]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Mg2xMp
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Mg2xMp/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.67 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($136.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($134.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $992.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-10 00:19 EDT-0400

I changed a few other things as well

The case because the enthoo pro is equal to the 780t and it is cheaper If you must spend that much get the enthoo luxe, Or just get an enthoo mini XL if you want to build a dual system PC again, why so much budget for a case?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBhmn21ylkc enthoo pro review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CEB71nZRPQ Enthoo mini XL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IihNgyt-ztE 780t review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQOPK-OgvnM enthoo luxe

This RAM has a lower CAS latency and it is low profile

The xeon only really needs a 212 evo to cool it

This motherboard is basically equivalent for your needs, and it is not cheap quality, it is just a REALLY good deal right now.

This PSU is worlds better and will be fine with long workloads.

Dont plan on doing amazing gaming on this thing

Just out of curiosity. What game server are you running?

 

[Adam M]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Mg2xMp
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Mg2xMp/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.67 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($136.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($134.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $992.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-10 00:19 EDT-0400

I changed a few other things as well

The case because the enthoo pro is equal to the 780t and it is cheaper If you must spend that much get the enthoo luxe, again, why so much budget for a case?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBhmn21ylkc enthoo pro review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IihNgyt-ztE 780t review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQOPK-OgvnM enthoo luxe

This RAM has a lower CAS latency and it is low profile

The xeon only really needs a 212 evo to cool it

This motherboard is basically equivalent for your needs, and it is not cheap quality, it is just a REALLY good deal right now.

This PSU is worlds better and will be fine with long workloads.

Dont plan on doing amazing gaming on this thing

Just out of curiosity. What game server are you running?

Thanks for that part list, it really helps! This is my first build anyways. So it will run 2 websites with accouple minecraft servers (ik, laugh at me all you want xD). May I ask why did you change the motherboard? I was told that, that motherboard was good for running servers for a long amount of time but not constant. Also the ballistix ram, is it around the same specs just better latency. Oh also, I just really love the look of the 780t and it seems to have great functionality.

 

[Rhezner]

the h97m is great and will work fine but you can get the gigabyte model if you are worried.

Honestly it sounds like you would want a dual build setup, one for your server and one for your gaming computer and this would be a great option
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CEB71nZRPQ

I just think that phanteks cases are better and have better funcionality but you should watch the reviews and decide for yourself.

 

[Adam M]

the h97m is great and will work fine but you can get the gigabyte model if you are worried.

Honestly it sounds like you would want a dual build setup, one for your server and one for your gaming computer and this would be a great option
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CEB71nZRPQ

I just think that phanteks cases are better and have better funcionality but you should watch the reviews and decide for yourself.

Thanks so much for helping me. I am going to go with the Gigabyte motherboard just because it has great reviews (all 5 stars) on PCPartPicker and has everything I will need (+It looks nice!). I will need to do more case searching because now the 780T doesn't fit in my budget, but I may use the phantek.

 

[Adam M]

The thing that is a hard decision, is that you can't really upgrade a case (without taking everything apart), but everything else you can. So I will need to think about if I want todo that investment with the 780T or Enthoo Pro

 

[Rhezner]

pcpartpicker reviews are not the way to know, newegg reviews are a much better reference and the h97m anneversary has slightly better reviews at 72% 5 star, the h97m anneversary on pcpartpicker only has like 2 reviews which isn't a big enough sample size.

Even a case like the s340 or the n200 are great, although the define r5 and the enthoo pro are both really quality cases. Also consider the h440.

And taking everything apart to upgrade a case would only take an hour or 2, and the enthoo pro is as good IMO.

I still think a dual build setup would be so cool but it is personal preference XD

 

[MarkW]

Having 2 fans for an intake and 1 for outtake (120mm) (excluding PSU), is that enough?

Yes it is. That is the setup that I recommend to people for fans.

 

[Rhezner]

If you have a positive pressure in your case and all of the intake fans have dust filters then it is hard for dust to get in, With a negative pressure then air will seep in through every hole in the case and they are not dust filtered, More intake fans is definitely better.

 

[Adam M]

If you have a positive pressure in your case and all of the intake fans have dust filters then it is hard for dust to get in, With a negative pressure then air will seep in through every hole in the case and they are not dust filtered, More intake fans is definitely better.

Also, will Crucial Ballistix Sport RAM (https://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls2kit8g3d1609ds1s00) disipate enough heat (without heatsinks, or does it have heatsinks and I just can't see them?) since Minecraft Servers use RAM a lot and I think that the RAM will tend to be under a lot of load (causing a lot of heat).

 

[Rhezner]

They will be fine as far as heat goes and they are low profile which makes them compatible with any aftermarket air cooler and they are cheap for what they are.

 

[Adam M]

They will be fine as far as heat goes and they are low profile which makes them compatible with any aftermarket air cooler and they are cheap for what they are.

Thanks, heres what I end up with: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LkC8Bm
Now I know I changed some things from your suggested build, but they are just what I prefer and I think that heat sink for my CPU looks damn nice. Everything in that build I love, but if I could change 1 thing, it would be the RAM. I don't really like the green color to it. And I have grown to like the case.