Can I upgrade the CPU on this computer?

[RealBinary]

So my uncle gave me an old HP Compaq DC7800. I know it support up to 8GB of DDR2 RAM. And I can see from this website the CPU can be upgraded https://www.manualslib.com/manual/275291/Hp-Compaq-Dc7800.html?page=35

But I am trying to meet the minimum specs for the following games:

CSGO
CoD: WAW
CoD: BO3

Of course 2 of thoughs arent exactly out of reach but the last one is stretching it. I know it will support the minimum RAM, GPU, and clock speed if i used AMD (Which im not using) Is there a way (with or without replacing the whole OEM mobo) to upgrade the CPU to meet the minimum requirements? And if so, how would i do this and what parts do i need. I currently have my own custom built pc which i did myself, but i dont know where to begin with old OEM PC's. Tahnks to all who reply

 

[clutchc]

What's in it now?

 

[RealBinary]

What's in it now?

Im resetting windows atm, but i believe 4GB of ram and i know an Intel Core Duo E series (dont know the exact model)
As for the mobo I have no clue, but i think the link i posted to the CPU states the mobo

 

[clutchc]

What's in it now?

Im resetting windows atm, but i believe 4GB of ram and i know an Intel Core Duo E series (dont know the exact model)
As for the mobo I have no clue, but i think the link i posted to the CPU states the mobo

I was wondering which of those CPUs in the support list you had, because if it already is one of the better ones, there wouldn't be much noticeable improvement. In which case, the money would be better spent on just upgrading the gfx card.

The E6850 dual core or one of the quad cores would be the obvious best choice if you can find one used for a good price.

 

[clutchc]

You can check the games' min requirements here.

 

[RealBinary]

You can check the games' min requirements here.

Well i know none of those processors meet the minimum requirements for Black Ops 3.
The minimum is Intel® Core™ i3-530 @ 2.93 GHz.
Do I have to upgrade the whole board?

 

[clutchc]

You can check the games' min requirements here.

Well i know none of those processors meet the minimum requirements for Black Ops 3.
The minimum is Intel® Core™ i3-530 @ 2.93 GHz.
Do I have to upgrade the whole board?

Yes, along with the RAM and possibly a fresh install of Win. And you'll need to check to see if the HP case uses proprietary connectors/connection to the motherboard that won't mate up with retail boards.

 

[RealBinary]

You can check the games' min requirements here.

Well i know none of those processors meet the minimum requirements for Black Ops 3.
The minimum is Intel® Core™ i3-530 @ 2.93 GHz.
Do I have to upgrade the whole board?

Yes, along with the RAM and possibly a fresh install of Win. And you'll need to check to see if the HP case uses proprietary connectors/connection to the motherboard that won't mate up with retail boards.

How would I check for that?

 

[clutchc]

First, which of these HP Compaq DC7800 PCs is yours?

 

[RAGNAR5]

You can check the games' min requirements here.

Well i know none of those processors meet the minimum requirements for Black Ops 3.
The minimum is Intel® Core™ i3-530 @ 2.93 GHz.
Do I have to upgrade the whole board?

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[goldstone77]

Download Speccy. It will tell you what CPU, RAM, Motherboard, etc. We need to know what kind of case you have.
Speccy®
Fast, lightweight, advanced system information tool for your PC.
Need to find out what’s inside your computer? Speccy has all the information you need!
https://www.piriform.com/speccy

We need to know how big the case is.

 

[RealBinary]

What's in it now?

I am using the main (Largest Case), and Have 6GB or DDR2 Ram and the Intel Core Duo Dual Core 3.00GHz CPU. The Mobo is the default one that comes with it (Obviously haha). And it has 500GB HDD. Is there any point to upgrading the CPU to a Quad core (that the mobo will accept) because the clock speeds will be substantially lower. Mostly ill be using this for LIGHT gaming (Minecraft at low settings and stuff like that) and YouTube. But im wondering if there is any possible upgrade (Without changing the board) to make this strong enough for Basic Photoshop Graphics creation/editing, basic Adobe Premiere Pro Video Editing, and the ability to use my Elgato HD60 Pro PCie capture card in this pc.

I realize this is a very old and low spec PC, but i mean for its time it wasnt entry level. Is it still capable of being useful for any of the uses above if i upgrade the GPU and ram? If so what is the best GPU it can handle? And is the CPU worth upgrading just to be quad core?

Also on a side not my graphics keep crashing for a split second and my monitor goes black, then it turns back on again. This is rare but its annoying. Is this a GPU issue?

 

[goldstone77]

It's hard to say with the age of the unit. It could dust inside the case causing problems. It could be the power supply, GPU, or a combination of the 2.
Upgrading it would probably be a good idea to upgrade the power supply.
https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-compaq-dc7800-small-form-factor-pc/3459241/document/c01163881
I"m guessing this is your motherboard HP 437795‑001 DC Desktop Board Motherboard
supported CPU's for that chipset, and quad cores are on that list.
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel_(chipsets)/Q35_Express.html
Supported FSBs
1333MHz / 1066MHz / 800MHz
Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)
8 GB
Memory Types
DDR2 667/800
http://ark.intel.com/products/31918/Intel-82Q35-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller

You will need the latest bios updated for the quad cores.
Microcode Update for HP 786F BIOS Family Computers with Intel Processors
1.14 Rev. A 0.4 MB Dec 21, 2010
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-compaq-dc7800-convertible-minitower-pc/3459240
I found that there was a micro code bios update to support quad cores
ENHANCEMENTS:
- Updates the Intel Processor microcode for processors having CPU IDs 6F6, 6FB,
6F2, 6FD, 6F7, 10676, 10677, and 1067A.
https://support.hp.com/soar-attachment/949/col36590-vc-90082-1-vc-90082-1_sp51245.html
Vendor: GenuineIntel
Processor name (BIOS): Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Logical processors: 4
Processor type: Original OEM Processor
CPUID signature: 10677
http://www.cpu-world.com/cgi-bin/CPUID.pl?CPUID=4

Edit:
You can buy used for about $38
Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q9550 2.83GHz 1333MHz 12 MB LGA775 EM64T CPU BX80569Q9550
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0012WDMNC/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

 

[RealBinary]

It's hard to say with the age of the unit. It could dust inside the case causing problems. It could be the power supply, GPU, or a combination of the 2.
Upgrading it would probably be a good idea to upgrade the power supply.
https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-compaq-dc7800-small-form-factor-pc/3459241/document/c01163881
I"m guessing this is your motherboard HP 437795‑001 DC Desktop Board Motherboard
supported CPU's for that chipset, and quad cores are on that list.
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel_(chipsets)/Q35_Express.html
Supported FSBs
1333MHz / 1066MHz / 800MHz
Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)
8 GB
Memory Types
DDR2 667/800
http://ark.intel.com/products/31918/Intel-82Q35-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller

You will need the latest bios updated for the quad cores.
Microcode Update for HP 786F BIOS Family Computers with Intel Processors
1.14 Rev. A 0.4 MB Dec 21, 2010
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-compaq-dc7800-convertible-minitower-pc/3459240
I found that there was a micro code bios update to support quad cores
ENHANCEMENTS:
- Updates the Intel Processor microcode for processors having CPU IDs 6F6, 6FB,
6F2, 6FD, 6F7, 10676, 10677, and 1067A.
https://support.hp.com/soar-attachment/949/col36590-vc-90082-1-vc-90082-1_sp51245.html
Vendor: GenuineIntel
Processor name (BIOS): Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Logical processors: 4
Processor type: Original OEM Processor
CPUID signature: 10677
http://www.cpu-world.com/cgi-bin/CPUID.pl?CPUID=4

Edit:
You can buy used for about $38
Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q9550 2.83GHz 1333MHz 12 MB LGA775 EM64T CPU BX80569Q9550
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0012WDMNC/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

But is upgrading the CPU to a quad core worth the drop in clock speed for the use i want out of it (Light gaming, possible light photoshop and premiere pro editing)?

 

[goldstone77]

170MHz isn't much, but 50% more cores is going to be significantly better! It's also 30 watt higher TDP, and it would be a good idea to upgrade your power supply if you are going to add a processor and video card.

 

[goldstone77]

Here is CSGO with your processor and a GT730. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anFhqLLDnHg
CPU: Intel 2 Duo E8500 3,16 ghz (2 cores)
GPU: Gigabyte GT 720 1GB DDR3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zhdd4QnyLs

 

[RealBinary]

Here is CSGO with your processor and a GT730. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anFhqLLDnHg
CPU: Intel 2 Duo E8500 3,16 ghz (2 cores)
GPU: Gigabyte GT 720 1GB DDR3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zhdd4QnyLs

Ill probably upgrade to the quad core and overclock it ands upgrade the power supply to a 400w, but could the pc handle a Nvidia GTX GPU?

 

[goldstone77]

Here is CSGO with your processor and a GT730. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anFhqLLDnHg
CPU: Intel 2 Duo E8500 3,16 ghz (2 cores)
GPU: Gigabyte GT 720 1GB DDR3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zhdd4QnyLs

Ill probably upgrade to the quad core and overclock it ands upgrade the power supply to a 400w, but could the pc handle a Nvidia GTX GPU?

Depends on the GPU, if you are just going to get one that doesn't require additional power from the power supply like the GTX 710-730, or a 1050 low profile.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137081

 

[RealBinary]

I am thinking about a 1050 ti now
but would that make a huge difference (would i get the full performance out of it) along with the quad core and 8gb of ram? I mean would it even work on this old of a computer?

If i do upgrade the CPU and GPU, would this work for the GPU and how much watts would it need? https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1050-GAMING/dp/B01MA62JSZ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499722658&sr=8-1&keywords=MSI+GeForce+GTX+1050+Ti

 

[goldstone77]

That's a full size card I didn't think you had room in your case for that, and the difference isn't worth the extra ~$30.

 

[goldstone77]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geOy6vncL3A This will show you the difference in higher frequency clocks of a dual core vs. quad core. Note the two cpu's you are using have almost the same clock speed.

 

[RealBinary]

That's a full size card I didn't think you had room in your case for that, and the difference isn't worth the extra ~$30.

im goign to upgrade to a quad core, as for the GPU im buying it off amazon, and there is plenty of room for that card haha. its more roomy than you'd think. But if i can spend less i would. Im buying the stuff tomorrow cause its Amazon prime day and the card could be discounted. Do you know where the cheaper card is (any cheaper card that's in stock) on amazon?

 

[goldstone77]

Comes with a game, full size, and has 2 fans for decent overclock.
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1050 DirectX 12 GV-N1050OC-2GD 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card $119.99
Rocket League PC game included with purchase, limited offer
Core Clock
1404 MHz in OC Mode
1379 MHz in Gaming
Boost Clock
1518 MHz in OC Mode
1493 MHz in Gaming
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125919&cm_re=1050-_-14-125-919-_-Product

EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 GAMING, 2GB GDDR5, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC) Graphics Card 02G-P4-6150-KR Price: $109.99 Free Shipping for Prime Members
Base Clock: 1354 MHz / Boost Clock: 1455 MHz; Memory Detail: 2048MB GDDR5
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M9FD3PC/?tag=pcpapi-2

I'd get the first one.

 

[goldstone77]

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[goldstone77]

Core 2 Overclocking Guide
grayskyJun 17, 2010, 10:34 AM
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/259899-29-core-overclocking-guide?_ga=2.127669005.1893233493.1498948414-18189844.1495396340

HOWTO: Overclock C2Q (Quads) and C2D (Duals) - A Guide v1.7
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/515316-HOWTO-Overclock-C2Q-(Quads)-and-C2D-(Duals)-A-Guide-v1-1

Core 2 Quad Q9550 overclocking
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/695297-Core-2-Quad-Q9550-overclocking