[SOLVED] Can I use this graphics card on my custom build?

[Davidshouse]

Wanted a NVDA Quadro, but got this error message -

https://ibb.co/Z1KtJ7T

Ordered from here - https://www.provantage.com/hp-6yt67at~7HPP9HY0.htm labeled as HP

There's an alternate, more expensive version of same card here - https://www.provantage.com/pny-technologies-vcqp2200-sb~7PNY91WV.htm labeled as PNY

Am I risking damage to system if the card is specifically for HP systems, what would the difference be? It was the cheaper option and I didnt really consider it was only for HP, I was mainly looking at NVDA graphics part.

 

[jmil]

Wanted a NVDA Quadro, but got this error message -

https://ibb.co/Z1KtJ7T

Ordered from here - https://www.provantage.com/hp-6yt67at~7HPP9HY0.htm labeled as HP

There's an alternate, more expensive version of same card here - https://www.provantage.com/pny-technologies-vcqp2200-sb~7PNY91WV.htm labeled as PNY

Am I risking damage to system if the card is specifically for HP systems, what would the difference be? It was the cheaper option and I didnt really consider it was only for HP, I was mainly looking at NVDA graphics part.

The type of video card you can use is determined by the space limitations of the enclosure and the type of PCI Express slot the motherboard has. What are you going to use the computer for primarily? If you are not using the computer specifically for a CAD/CAM or engineering purpose, I would just stick with the GeForce line of video cards. They have excellent performance and a much lower price point than the "Quadro" line of workstation cards. If you decide to switch to a GeForce card, just go to the NVidia website, follow the prompts to determine which driver to use and you should be good to go...

 

[Davidshouse]

Anyone out there know what's going on? A graphics card that says for use on HP only ... can it be used on a custom build with no HP parts?

 

[geofelt]

You are probably good to use the card.
It looks to me like the part is labelled for a replacement service part.

Perhaps more important is the appropriateness of the card for your particular build.
What is the purpose of the build?
What are the other parts that you have selected?

Is this build to primarily use an app that depends on a quadro card?

 

[Davidshouse]

You are probably good to use the card.
It looks to me like the part is labelled for a replacement service part.

Perhaps more important is the appropriateness of the card for your particular build.
What is the purpose of the build?
What are the other parts that you have selected?

Is this build to primarily use an app that depends on a quadro card?

Yes - it's an advanced charting software for trading. That's why I didn't really need a gaming card, I don't play games, but if I were to get a sufficient gaming card it would be in the 1k range, whereas this was $350.

Reliability is very , very important as well, as my account can get blown out if the monitor goes out. I've heard gaming cards can sometimes go blank , randomly for 30 seconds.

 

[geofelt]

Unless you have an app that specifies a quadro card, you are better off buying a normal graphics card.
Gaming cards are only need for fast action games.
Normally, using intel integrated HD630 graphics that comes with a modern intel processor will display all you want with good performance.
A graphics card of any kind does not randomly "go blank" unless it is defective.

A trading system will usually have a large number of windows open.
For that, a 4k monitor or a large wide screen monitor is good to show many charts in different windows.

What is the rest of your prospective parts list?

 

[Davidshouse]

Unless you have an app that specifies a quadro card, you are better off buying a normal graphics card.
Gaming cards are only need for fast action games.
Normally, using intel integrated HD630 graphics that comes with a modern intel processor will display all you want with good performance.
A graphics card of any kind does not randomly "go blank" unless it is defective.

A trading system will usually have a large number of windows open.
For that, a 4k monitor or a large wide screen monitor is good to show many charts in different windows.

What is the rest of your prospective parts list?

The thing is I have 3 4k monitors right now, and will likely add a 4th. The whole point of my setup is to be able to show multiple monitors at 4k (60 Hz). The Quadro has 4 DPorts and is capable of displaying 5 4k monitors on their infographic.

When I went to micro center, I looked at the graphics card and the guy working there would read out the max resolution from the box. Based on this he said you could do 2 4k monitors, and 2 1080p monitors.


AMD Ryzen 3950x
ASUS X570 TUF Gaming Plus
64 GB DDR4 Ram

 

[geofelt]

I think you are good with a quadro p2200.
Here is the data sheet.

I think you are good with the one labeled for HP usage only if the price is good and you have a decent return capability.
You can buy the same one from newegg for $413:
https://www.newegg.com/p/1FT-000P-003M8

 

[Davidshouse]

I think you are good with a quadro p2200.
Here is the data sheet.

I think you are good with the one labeled for HP usage only if the price is good and you have a decent return capability.
You can buy the same one from newegg for $413:
https://www.newegg.com/p/1FT-000P-003M8

I am using it right now, screens look OK but there is a lag going on. Do you think this graphics card is bottlenecking my AMD processor? Would a graphics card with more bandwidth (this onoe is 200 GB/s, the RX 5700 is 450 GB/s) allow the system to function faster? Basically I ran a userbenchmark test and the system is performing at 50% of capacity. There's also lag while opening windows which I never had even on my slower computer.

 

[geofelt]

There is no such thing as "bottlenecking"
If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
somehow lower your performance or FPS.
A better term might be limiting factor.
That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
less effective.

Are you using a ssd for everything?
If not, that would be one of my first upgrades.
About the best performing ssd would be a samsung m.2 pcie ssd like the 970 EVO plus.

I am not experienced with your quadro type of card.
Possibly, the lag is card related, but I suspect not.

If you are inclined to experiment, your motherboard can support two discrete graphics cards.
You should be able to install a second discrete standard graphics card. You can find some with two dp outputs, but not 4.

In building such a high end system, I would have picked a Intel K suffix processor like the I9-10900K
It has fewer threads(20 vs.36) but with cores that are perhaps 15% faster.

 

[Davidshouse]

There is no such thing as "bottlenecking"
If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
somehow lower your performance or FPS.
A better term might be limiting factor.
That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
less effective.

Are you using a ssd for everything?
If not, that would be one of my first upgrades.
About the best performing ssd would be a samsung m.2 pcie ssd like the 970 EVO plus.

I am not experienced with your quadro type of card.
Possibly, the lag is card related, but I suspect not.

If you are inclined to experiment, your motherboard can support two discrete graphics cards.
You should be able to install a second discrete standard graphics card. You can find some with two dp outputs, but not 4.

In building such a high end system, I would have picked a Intel K suffix processor like the I9-10900K
It has fewer threads(20 vs.36) but with cores that are perhaps 15% faster.

Yes, I have the exact SSD you spoke about. Fast RAM as well. I thought Intel was better for single tasks like gaming, whereas I have 15 windows open, 3 programs open, lots of charts ... so multitasking and cores were important.

I think it's a graphics card issue, lack of power. I changed the settings of the monitor to 1080p and the lag is no longer there, even though things look horrible.

I've heard NVDA has some new graphics cards coming out in September, is it worth waiting or should I go ahead and purchase the GEFORCE RTX Super 2070? Thing is it's sold out at MSRP so I'll likely have to pay a premium maybe $600 for a $499 card.

 

[geofelt]

Your experiment with resolution does indicate a graphics issue.
How many 4k monitors do you have now? Will you want more?
Try the experiment of connecting just 2 4k monitors to the Quadro.
If you get satisfactory operation with two, adding a second Quadro would be a decent option.

The new 3000 series cards are supposedly oriented towards gamers.
Cards should be stronger than the current top dog, the RTX2080ti.

It does not take much to run a 4k monitor at 60hz.
On one of my pc's, I have a 4k monitor that runs at 60hz using an older GTX750ti.
But, it has only 1 dp output.
Look for a gaming graphics card that has three dp outputs.
About the cheapest will be a GTX1650 super.
A top card like a RTX2070 super might be this evga unit:
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-super-08g-p4-3173-kr/p/N82E16814487453?&quicklink=true
A gaming strength card should be able to output dp at high frame rates for triple monitor gaming.
If you buy a new card, look at an EVGA unit. They have a free 90 day trade up option if you should want something stronger.
Read the fine print for restrictions.