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I will be using my PC just for gaming and a little bit of browsing & movies that is why i don't need a powerful processor like i5 8400 or ryzen 5 1600 . So i need a PC built which can maximize my GPU output without under or over killing it.

please if possible suggest the RAM and MoBo also .

PS : i would rather pay extra than OC a processor . like i would rather buy ryzen 3 1300X than buying ryzen 3 1200 and overclocking it .
 
An i3 with the a 1060/1070 , i have never heard of this . i think i3 will be a bottleneck for this setup
I think you confused on what a bottleneck really is. The bottleneck is simply the weakest link of a system. Every system, even the most high end rigs, has a bottleneck. Sometimes, the bottleneck can change between different hardware on the same system pending the application.

Look at gaming for example, the i3 8100 would push even a 1080ti in games that are not CPU heavy (even more so at higher resolution). Whereas in CPU heavy games such as BF1, the i3 will hold back even a 1060. So the bottleneck, or weakest link, will change depending on what game you are playing.

So saying "an i3 will bottleneck this setup" is both right and wrong. My advice is to decide which GPU you want, and then get the best CPU your budget will allow from there. In my opinion, you should build your system around the GPU.

GPUs tend to show their age much quicker than a CPU. For example, Sandy Bridge CPUs were released in 2011 and there are still a lot of them in gaming rigs today. The 2700k is still a capable CPU for gaming. Nvidia released the Fermi refresh cards in 2011 around the same time the Sandy Bridge CPUs were released. Nvidia just ended driver support for those Fermi cards. Basically, they are as extinct as the dinosaurs yet Sandy Bridge is still kicking.

In my opinion, a good balanced gaming rig would be to pair a 8400 with a 1060 (or 580 as the prices have dropped). This will allow you to game at 1080p at high settings in AAA games. For a budget system, I would pair a 8100 with a 1050ti. If you paired a 8400 with a 1050ti, it would run better in games that were CPU heavy, but there would be little to no difference in games that would not.

In short, I would not pair a midrange CPU with a budget GPU. It will work better in CPU heavy titles, but you will have diminishing returns in titles that lean harder on the GPU.


 
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i don't think that will be a good option .I dont want to build around a game i want to built around the card . As we know 1050ti can play all AAA games at 1080p mid settings . i just want a processor that can support the card so it can function at it's best .
 

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Whats your location & how much do you have to spend ?

A ryzen 1200,1300x or an i3 8100 can run a 1050ti fine.

However if you have the budget to buy something better then future proofing wise it makes sense to.
 
Go for the 8100. It will pair nicely with the 1050ti and you don't need to overclock. It has better single threaded performance and the same amount of threads as the similarly prices 1200. Pairing it with a b360 board will save some money.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2BpsZR
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2BpsZR/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($118.80 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $268.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-25 11:52 EDT-0400
 
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you could probably get away with the g4560.

 
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I don't really want to built it with keeping in mind a budget , i am rather going with the need . i just dont want to purchase a R5 1600/1500x and let all the power it can deliver go to waste by not using it to its full potential . i am sorry if i am not able to communicate my needs but trust me i am trying my best. All i know is i want a 1050 ti and built around it so that it can be used properly . So i think i will go with i3 8100 , with good single thread performance and no need of overclocking .Even if i have a budget i would rather go with 1060 and not put my money in processor.
 
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yes i think this is better and what if i want to bump it to 1060 6GB/3GB . will i3 8100 be able to support it properly or i will have to go with the i5 8400 ?
 

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I would recommend you go with the higher tier CPU for the instance that it will last longer in games and will be ready to rock if and when you decide to bump up your GPU to a higher level card.
As for the 1060 6GB the answer is no, you do not want to go with a dual core i3. Go with the mid level chip for CPU like a Ryzen 5 and run it at default base clocks and then overclock it down the road when you need to and when you upgrade your GPU. But be warned, when going Ryzen, you need faster RAM for better performance from the CPU, so it's best to go 3000Mhz or more on the speeds. The best bang for buck I'd recommend is a 2x8GB kit of 3000Mhz Ripjaws V to go with a Ryzen 5 either 4-core or 6-core CPU and a B350 motherboard for overclocking in the future but for cheaper than an X370 board.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($176.37 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($163.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $400.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-27 03:22 EDT-0400
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For a non overclockable option form intel this is what you will get
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($179.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - H310M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($60.14 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $389.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-27 03:28 EDT-0400
 


You'd get away with an r3
 
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As we know RAM prices are crazy right now , how about

i5 8400 , 16GB (8X2) ram 2400 , GTX 1060 .

i think intel will work fine with the 2400Mhz.

or if budget does not allow me
i3 8100 , 16 GB (8X2) ram , GTX 1050 ti
 

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LOL. I edited my post before you posted this but you must have already been on the page before I updated it.
 


That CPU is crazy. It's a 1050Ti not a 1080Ti
 
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no i am pairing i5 with the 1060 and not 1050 ti and that is exactly my point . when all i am going to do is game i don't want a powerful processor that is not being used to its full potential .
 
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haha yeah i saw , this is really a tough call to make without any expert knowledge .
 


The OP sounds like they already own the 1050Ti whats the point in suggesting stuff for a card they don't have?
 

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If you build around the GPU and undersell yourself on the CPU then when you come to find that you want more horsepower and get a better GPU (and trust me, you will) you will kicking yourself in the teeth for having an underpowered CPU. If you don't push the CPU to 100% it's fine. It just means that you aren't bottlenecking at all and it will come in handy down the road when you need more juice. Better to get a 4-core Ryzen 3 with a B350 motherboard at least so it can be overclocked when the time comes for you to need more juice and that way you don't have to buy a whole new board along with a CPU upgrade if you also wanted to get a more powerful CPU. The whole point of spending just a little more for more power that you aren't going to use right away now is so that you save yourself the money later and overall don't spend as much to get the performance you want/need.
 


Even a r3 should be fine for the next few years with a 1060 or even 1070. A lot of games are still single thread heavy and most clock for clock ryzen systems are very close.
 
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An i3 with the a 1060/1070 , i have never heard of this . i think i3 will be a bottleneck for this setup
 

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Depends on the model.

The 8th gen 8350k for example is just as fast as previous gen i5s like the 7600k and 6600k.
 


An r3 not an i3 and the i3 8100 wouldn't bottleneck a 1060 and probably would bottleneck a 1070 as its a 4 core 4 thread CPU at around 4GHz
 


6600k and 7600K it doesn't have HT
 

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