Can you overclocking the ryzen 3 3800x
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I don't winch motherboard i need without bios update work out of box
Yes, with a B or X series motherboard only. But if planning on conventional all-core overclocking don't also plan on success as it's very rare to get any better performance than stock and then only with heroic efforts on a top-end motherboard with top-end CPU cooling.
Most any brand new motherboard will work out of the box with a 3000 series CPU. Only thing to worry about is if dredging bargain basement sales which could turn up some new-old stock B450/X470/X570 board. Any B550 will be compatible out-of-box as they came out well after the Ryzen 3000 launch.
Don't bother with any 300 series (B350/X370) as they are mostly inadequate for decent performance with 8 or more core CPU's.