Canon PowerShot A70

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eden

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I saw the C5050 at Imaging Ressource, dear god it's almost only positive! This is like a really nice digicam and prolly indeed one of the best for its range.

No I ain't workin' for THAT... :wink:

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eden

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Hmm you seem to have lots of pics, of friends and such. Dunno if you're one of them.

But if you are in one of them pics, was wondering if you wouldn't mind getting them into the THGC album? I'd appreciate it as part of making the Album community grow, and what better people to ask than the digicam freaks! :wink:

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the pic probably didn't have red-eye removal turned on.

i don't really use it.

and BTW you need full res to see the edges of things otherwise its scaled down and averaged, defeating the purpose.


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eden

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Hey dude, just wonderin' if you had read my post above?

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yeah ok i saw that, and i was one of the guys LOL. Long blond tiped hair LOL

ok the red-eye reduction works BRILLIENTLY i have some photos i took with my A70 and the eyes are almost perfect except for a tiny tiny redish hint.

i will upload if you need


oh and i'll put somthing on the comunity album some time soon

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eden

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Yeah, one pic or two with R-E reduction would be swell. You don't need to make them at 3.2Mpix size though, 1024*768 is more than fine (and often is more than twice smaller).

So the blond haired fool is Alltaken, heheh. :wink:

R-E wouldn't be a problem if the reduction works to reduce it to minimal, I'll say. No digicam so far in my price range can display no R-E. But it's just the reviews that said the R-E reduction lamp didn't do jack. In any case I believe the trick they often ask you to do, is not look at the flash, stare slightly away from it.

So I went yesterday to FutureShop and had a much more in-depth hands-on on the digicams. Asked them to pop a mem card in the Olympus (wanted to do it on the A70 but the guy waited a good while as I tried the Olympus that I bet he got pretty tired and would kill me if I asked to try the A70 more :tongue: hehe) and got to really try it out. I liked the 1.8" screen, heck the 85 000 pixels are unnoticeable, it's almost as sharp as the 50% more detailed 1.5" screens that bear ~120 000, like the Sony DSCP-71. However I always thought the A70's was rather weak (set aside the menu display, as it was extremely readable and by far the best), and I just checked on Canon's site, apparently I was wrong, it's 78000 pixels, far less than usual. I did notice it being a tad less detailed when it was in record mode, but it was still more than fine IMO, just sometimes liked to go out of focus and brighten too much before adjusting and creating blurry images.
Now, so far, it seems to me the A70 is the way to go. While I still find the D-560Z's image quality to be sharper, the A70's features are wise and plentiful (and fun), and it has AF illumination with excellent night shots. What I am thinking is most likely that Photoshopping will be needed in any landscape shot I deem needed to be important.
So, there is likely a high chance of the A70 being the buy. I am buying this Saturday, so we'll see. That had better be worth the 499$ CDN spent on the cam alone.

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eden

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Well, I went and got the A70!

Never found so much fun in such a small package. Movie mode is nothing short of stunning. High-Quality and really allows a lot to be seen. Too bad it's in friggin' AVI. Will have to find converters.

Image quality is ok and sometimes impressive. It's the functionality that will make them awesome. So I am trying to tamper around, as I can find a lot of sweet spots. Night shot mode impressed me.

All in all, definitely worth the price, and I bought a 128MB card. Will prolly return it for a 256MB one that costs the very same (60$) at Costco!

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yeah i bought a 128 card for about $35

it has yet to run out.

as for convertors they are easy to find, what do you want to convert them into. (p.s. they are not actually avi's of you don't want them to be, they are ".thm" or somthing, and can be watched in quicktime.

but it think thats with funny software downloady crap, they are converted to avi automatically on download i belive.


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dhlucke

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Congrats! Getting a digital camera is great. It makes taking regular day to day pictures a lot more easy and fun.

After taking 20 rolls of film and barely getting any good pictures I am a big believer in digital.

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eden

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Totally man.

It's great that I can immediatly fetch friends pics, or show family things they want to see. Plus the movie mode is outstanding, I can really show a lot.

Besides, our film camera had a burnt glass for the flash! (you'd see some burn marks on the cover of the flash), and low-light shots were horrible.

Now it's a totally different thing. I haven't even run into red-eye problems yet.

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Yeah, they are AVI on the comp. Would be nice to have some compression converter. Dunno what is better compressed and can be read by most WMP players. DivX would ask for Codec.
12 seconds for ~12MB of 640*480 just isn't too nice.

My only qualm so far is the download speed. The USB seems to lag a bit, and doesn't look like it does 600KB/sec.

One thing though, the camera does have a learning curve. It can be a point n' shoot, but the AUTO function has problems IMO. You HAVE to spend time playing around, learning what it can do, to get the right pics anytime. It's harder, but I like it.

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dhlucke

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I suck at using my camera. I admit it. I have seen what can be done with it but I haven't reproduced it.

Olympus at least has tutorials and guides to do some snazy stuff. I'm sure Canon has the same thing.

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eden

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Haven't seen it yet. The 200 page manual might, but I have skimmed through it fairly well.

I am looking around to find some tips online for outdoor pics.
I have taken some today and boy was it bad. We had for the first time around 80% clear skies. Sun was out there. But, the camera took so much light its white balance screwed most pictures. The white overrode the blue, the sky turned cloudy-looking if not just completely white. That's not without mentioning the purple fringing. The result was also mostly bright in other parts of the pic (which include a building and grass whom both had problematic color)
I didn't try the Daylight WB yet. But the outdoor pic was horrible in AUTO mode. I hope sincerly that this issue can be fixed by tweaking, as white skies during beautiful blue-sky days is not encouraging.
Furthermore there was more barrel distortion than I wanted in most pics with straight vertical objects (the monitor shot was a great example)

For now my main pro-cons with the cam's images are as follows:

PRO: -Despite the smoothing, the cam produces fairly nice shots, and indoors rock.
- Red-Eye has yet to appear. I assume people always look at the orange lamp.

CONS:
- Problematic skyline pictures
- Color balance sometimes isn't right
- Flash seems to add too much contrast or overexposes indoor pics. I will try to learn more about picture taking, maybe that's why I see it that way.
- Purple fringing all too clear
- Focus tends to screw some parts of zoomed objects.
- Very apparent barrel distortion when taking shots with vertical objects.

Wish Canon would try to fix some of these issues and make AUTO mode really something that puts the average newbie at ease. Then again the A70 has never been touted for image quality above features.

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eden

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Oh and in case you did not notice, I suck at using my camera too! :wink:

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Yeah I've been considering that. Would like to make a panorama of my town, from our balcony, show it to cousins in Lebanon and the like.
My uncle has a very good quality one, so I'll likely borrow it.

Oh and Auburn you bastard, you thought you would get away with a post temporarily there huh? I'm onto you! :tongue:

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eden

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Wot?!

ROFL!

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eden

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My camera doesn't have such a wide angle to start, but I could go for a movie recording.
Will show you just how utterly dumb 4 people in there can be.

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I must concede to you, you know your comebacks there Auby...









*bows............and takes a look under the skirt*
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