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More info?)
As for the "networking issue" I suggest that you use the settings you
have for the operating system on "C:" as a template for the E: install.
You may need to remove ZA for the moment and perhaps disable the Windows
XP one until you "connect". Then install the ZA one if you want to use
it. But you shouldn't have two running.
+++Bobby "O"+++ wrote:
> For my backup from drive E:, I am backing up to a Maxtor 250GB external
> drive. In addition, I use Ghost to copy my physical drive to an identical
> physical drive at least once a week. This drive is then removed and stored
> off-site.
>
> I still have the networking issue.
>
>
>
> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:%23ZmQjyIuFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
>>In news:HWDVe.3094$GK2.1939@lakeread07,
>>+++Bobby "O"+++ <rmo555@cox.net> typed:
>>
>>
>>>I use the E: drive to back up my C: drive. If I try a backup from
>>>the C: drive, it won't back up files that are in use by the operating
>>>system.
>>
>>
>>You're doing it the hard way. You need only one copy of the operating
>>system, but you need better backup software. If you want to back up the
>>entire disk, get a product like Ghost, DriveImage, or TrueImage
>>
>>Also, if you've installed a single copy of Windows twice, even on the same
>>machine, you're probably in violation of the EULA.
>>
>>But most important, if you're backing up to a second partition on a single
>>physical drive, if I were you, I'd rethink that backup strategy entirely.
>>The backup issue, in my view, is much more significant than your
>>networking problem.
>>I don't recommend backup to a second non-removable hard drive (even if
>>were a second physical drive) because it leaves you susceptible to
>>simultaneous loss of the original and backup to many of the most common
>>dangers: severe power glitches, nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks,
>>even theft of the computer. In your case, backup up to a second partition,
>>add head crashes to the list of vulneravilities.
>>
>>
>>
>>In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not kept in
>>the computer. For really secure backup (needed, for example, if the life
>>of your business depends on your data) you should have multiple
>>generations of backup, and at least one of those generations should be
>>stored off-site.
>>
>>My computer isn't used for business, but my personal backup scheme uses
>>two identical removable hard drives, which fit into a sleeve installed in
>>the computer. I alternate between the two, and use Drive Image to make a
>>complete copy of the primary drive.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>Please reply to the newsgroup
>>
>>
>>
>>>"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>>>news:%23CRkPWIuFHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>In news:qpDVe.3090$GK2.1321@lakeread07
>>>>,
>>>>+++Bobby "O"+++ <rmo555@cox.net> typed:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm using the same operating system on both the C: and E: drives -
>>>>>Windows XP Pro - on MY computer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's unlikely that it has anything to do with your problem, but as an
>>>>aside, why do you have two installations of the same operating
>>>>system on your computer?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>>>Please reply to the newsgroup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps I should start from the beginning to set up mt E: drive on
>>>>>the network - but I'd have to ask you to walk me through it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>>>>>news:uluiwiHuFHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>>In news:3xqVe.3035$GK2.256@lakeread07,
>>>>>>+++Bobby "O"+++ <rmo555@cox.net> typed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'll try another way to explain my problem:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have two computers on my network - my wife's and mine. Both have
>>>>>>>one physical drive. Her's has one logical drive (C
and mine has
>>>>>>>two logical drives (C: and E
. I have my wife's PC showing as a
>>>>>>>line item in My Computer on my C: drive because I mapped it there.
>>>>>>>However, when I boot into my E: drive, I cannot map her drive to
>>>>>>>my E: drive because I can't find it when I browse for it. In
>>>>>>>other words, I cannot access her C: drive from my E: drive - only
>>>>>>>from my C: drive. I hope this is clearer. Thanks.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, it's clearer. Thank you. If you had said earlier that you were
>>>>>>dual-booting, I had missed it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What operating system are you running when you boot from C: and
>>>>>>what operating system when you boot from E:?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>>>>>Please reply to the newsgroup
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:eBdrOu$tFHA.2792@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In news:7znVe.3026$GK2.2996@lakeread07,
>>>>>>>>+++Bobby "O"+++ <rmo555@cox.net> typed:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>OK, I tried to map it on my E: drive - but couldn't find it to
>>>>>>>>>map.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hate to keep harping on the same thing, but you're saying
>>>>>>>>something wrong, and it isn't clear to me what you mean. You
>>>>>>>>*can't* map it on your E: drive. Your E: drive is a physical
>>>>>>>>drive on your computer. You can only map it to a drive that
>>>>>>>>doesn't exist on your computer. For example, if you don't have a
>>>>>>>>Z: drive, you could map her drive to Z: --
>>>>>>>>Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>>>>>>>Please reply to the newsgroup
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Maybe I'm doing something wrong - but I had a corporate guru
>>>>>>>>>try - and he couldn't figure it out either. Perhaps, if you
>>>>>>>>>walked me through the steps (and it doesn't work), I could tell
>>>>>>>>>you where in the process I have the problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:%23WhWme%23tFHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>In news:EkmVe.3018$GK2.2598@lakeread07,
>>>>>>>>>>+++Bobby "O"+++ <rmo555@cox.net> typed:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, it does not show up in Windows Explorer or My Computer on
>>>>>>>>>>>my E: drive. I have given permission to access my wife's drive
>>>>>>>>>>>and it is listed in Windows Explorer and My Computer on my C:
>>>>>>>>>>>drive. My E: and C: drive are on the same physical drive on my
>>>>>>>>>>>PC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sorry to keep saying the same thing, but I still don't
>>>>>>>>>>understand what you mean. Your wife's drive is not on your C:
>>>>>>>>>>drive nor is it on your E: drive. You can't see it *on* either
>>>>>>>>>>of those drives because it isn't there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>When you go to Windows Explorer, you should see *all* the
>>>>>>>>>>drives that are there, including any mapped network drives. If
>>>>>>>>>>your wife's drive isn't mapped, it isn't there to see.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>Please reply to the newsgroup
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>message news:eJZJPk8tFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>In news:IqjVe.3002$GK2.1085@lakeread07,
>>>>>>>>>>>>+++Bobby "O"+++ <rmo555@cox.net> typed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the information - it helps me to understand what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>is correct. However, I still can't 'see' my wife's computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>from my E: drive - but can see it from my C: drive (same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>physical drive). I still need a way to see her drive so I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>can access it for backup purposes. There must be a way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You're welcome. I was just trying to correct erroneous
>>>>>>>>>>>>information. But I don't understand what you mean when you
>>>>>>>>>>>>say "I still can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>'see' my wife's computer from my E:
>>>>>>>>>>>>drive - but can see it from my C: drive (same physical
>>>>>>>>>>>>drive)." You don't see a computer from a drive. You see it from
>>>>>>>>>>>>someplace like Windows Explorer. Can you be more explicit and
>>>>>>>>>>>>explain exactly what you're trying to do, and how?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>>Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>Please reply to the newsgroup
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>message news:%23hz7oA8tFHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In news:HP3Ve.30574$%w.9307@twister.nyc.rr.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lisa West <lisaj@NO_SPAM.si.rr.com.NO_CAPS> typed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+++Bobby "O"+++ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have two computers in my home connected through a hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wired router. One uses Windows XP Home Edition (my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wife's computer) and one uses Windows XP Pro. The PC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with the Pro edition has two logical drives. One is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very small (3GB) and I only use it to back up my other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drives. It also uses Windows XP Pro as the OS. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my E: drive. From my C: drive, I can 'see'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my other PC (my wife's computer) which I want to back up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>However, from my E: drive, I cannot 'see' my other PC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Therefore, I can't map it to my backup software. I CAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ping my wife's computer so I know it can be seen that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>way. This is probably a quirk between the Home Edition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and the Pro edition. Does anyone know how to map this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drive? Thanks........
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You didn't say what router you had. After using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*Network Setup Wizard*, I still had to do some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>configuring in the router's web page. Now with the E:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drive being that small, it is FAT32 by default (unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you converted it). It will NOT see NTFS partitions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, this is not at all correct, on several counts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>First of all, there is no question of FAT32 seeing NTFS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>partitions, nor of NTFS seeing FAT32 partitions. It's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>operating system that sees partitions, not the partition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>themselves or the file systems on them. Second, Windows XP,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whether Home or Professional, can see any and all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>combinations of NTFS, FAT12, FAT16, and FAT32, regardless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of what file system it itself is installed on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Third, over a network, it doesn't even matter that it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Windows XP. It's data that's moved over the network,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>without it's underlying file structure. That means that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>even a Windows 98 computer can access data on an NTFS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>partition across the network. Fourth, even with drives as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>small as 3GB, FAT32 is not the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>default. You get to choose which file system you want. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only restriction in Windows XP is that with drives over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>32GB, FAT32 is not a choice (although you can create FAT32
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>partitions larger than 32GB with an external program). --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Please reply to the newsgroup
>>
>>
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