Can't we all get along?

[dogman_1234]

How do you get atheism form Islam? I don't get it.

I agree atheists do not understand why people believe in a higher power, but to say they are the least tolerant is a fallacious statement. It is like saying all Christians are bigoted creatures, there is not proof of such statement. Everyone is human; we all do crud to each other.

 

[aford10]

How do you get atheism form Islam? I don't get it.

I agree atheists do not understand why people believe in a higher power, but to say they are the least tolerant is a fallacious statement. It is like saying all Christians are bigoted creatures, there is not proof of such statement. Everyone is human; we all do crud to each other.

I believe that JDJ said he has seen that in his own experience. That statement doesn't necessarily claim that it is a blanket truth, or hardened fact. It's just that, his experience.

 

[dogman_1234]

I see.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

I would add, it was atheistic leaders who slaughtered the Jews, and having lived thru this, knows what it takes to stop them, as religious zealousness is the only other thing that comes close to it, as in opposite poles, where neither are truly interested in what is truly to be believed

Many a leader has used their followers in their followers beliefs to do their bidding, and its usually religious fervor, where the leader doesnt believe at all

 

[Reynod]

Hitler was a Christian ... not an atheist.

We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.
We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,
and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933


He never directly quoted Neitsche ... only Schopenhauer.

There are no references in his writings of uberman.

I studied some of his stuff at university in philosophy and sociology.

Evil warped turd of a man ... made me ill watching some of those videos of his speeches.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

 

[Reynod]

Impossible to achieve in a free Republic or Democracy. People are religious. People run the state. It is impossible to separate ones religious beliefs with how they conduct a bureaucracy or govern from a high level.

There are certain checks and balances in place for the U.S. Government provided by the Constitution. That can not eliminate all religious influence on individuals though. Including cult and satain worship. Unfortunately.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

I was waiting for this:
I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews. I am doing the Lord's work." Years later, when in power, he quoted those same words in a Reichstag speech in 1938.

He was not a Christian, he believed in self.
Only thru self can one act this way.
One can believe in self, and claim God put them there, but, knowing and believing are 2 different things.
I am that I am means something here, and was tossed aside by Hitlers self.
He was no more a Christian than he was an acting atheist

 

[Reynod]

And now on to the UFO's.

This is the natural progression once Hitler is brought up ... or a sidestep into Islammic exremists ... then the Unibombmer ... then UFO's.

 

[chunkymonster]

And now on to the UFO's.

This is the natural progression once Hitler is brought up ...

I'm partial to the Nazi Bell experiment...

 

[jsc]

Let's face it, if a Caliphate were to come into power and united the Muslim countries of Asia Minor, it would create an entirely new political dynamic, not only in the region, but also the world.

Not going to happen. Right now, both Saudi Arabia and Iran are in a struggle to see who is going to dominate the Gulf region. No one not living here has any real idea of the antipathy that the Sunnis feel toward the Shia.

Side note: All Saudi maps refer to The Gulf as the "Arabian Gulf".

 

[dogman_1234]

It is the Persian Gulf. Persians were there before arabs...if I am not mistaken.

 

[jsc]

You are mistaken - sort of.

Arabs were always there. It's just that when Persia was a country, then empire; all the Arabian peninsula encompassed was a collection of feuding tribes.

 

[aford10]

Well, I can't say that I'm surprised Saudi Arabia would try to call it the Arabian Gulf. It's only natural to try to make a claim like that. Tho, it seems like everything is under dispute in that area.

For what it's worth, it's the Persian Gulf here in the US.