Question Case and cooling system to transfer my current build which heats up a lot

[Drekenof]

Hello everyone.

TL;DR : My PC’s fans are driving me crazy. Because High temperatures. Because IAO dead. I need a new case and cooling system to improve the noise.

My fan goes crazy because the temperature is sky high (100°C) quite often. From the replies I got from another support, it seems my AIO is dead / dying and I'm recommended to switch it with a fan system, such as the Thermalright Peerless Assassin for the LGA 1151 socket.

In addition to the replacement of a faulty/old component, I want to prepare the upgrade of my 6+ year old pc.

I humbly ask you to help me find a case (and cooling and all other necessary components) to improve the noise attenuation and handle future upgrades. If possible, I'd like to evolve things over time, rather than replace everything at once. So budget is not a major constraint.

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1. Which case would you recommend? (my case specification are below)
2. What components of my current system should I remove and replace (e.g. faulty cooling system...)? (my PC parts are below)
3. What other components should I add directly to this case?
4. Any other recommendations?

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Although I use my PC every day for work and leisure, I'm not a technician or hardware connoisseur. I'm f*cking lost between the compatibility of :

• the current components
• the current components with the first "wave" of upgrades (such as a new cooling system)
• the old components and first wave with the new case
• the first wave with those from a second wave of upgrades (new CPU, GPU, etc.)

To be honest, I have 0 experience building a PC, so something idiot-proof would be nice too, even though i can follow a video and tutorials. I just want to avoid strange hardware modification such as cutting parts of the case to insert components...

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My current use: office, “light” games, a little streaming
Future use: office + AAA games + video design + VR on PC + stream (so, in the future, i will go for heavy GPU and CPU)

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Case specs:

• Super-Tower or Big/Full tower case for future upgrades (since i will have to change hardware regularly from now on)
• Extra silent
• Sound isolation
• E-ATX format (for space hungry upgrades)
• Total blackout. No rgb bullsh*t. I want it to be as dark as my humor or my coffee. If i could paint it with Vantablack, I would 😀
• I don't care to see what's inside the computer
• Filters / easy cleaning
• Low temperature --> great airflow? Fans for push/pull or push/push, maybe? Bonus point for prebuilt because i’m newbie. Or at least, a good instruction video.
• Ability to add extra drive in the future
• Room space isn't a big problem

After a quick research, i found these case that might answer my case needs (still need cooling system):

• Corsair Obsidian 1000D (costly but could follow me for a long time)
• Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL
• be quiet! Dark Base Pro 901 ATX Full Tower Case

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T4B8gB
Case: Aerocool P7-C1 Glass Edition
Motherboard: Asus TUF Z370-Plus Gaming
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz
CPU fans: Cooler Master Seidon 120V
Graphic card:

• Geforce GTX 1080Ti 11Gb
• Intel UHD Graphics 630

RAM: 32Gb (F4-3200C15-16GTZ x2, Bank 1 and Bank 3)
PSU: be quiet! Pure power 10 L10-cm-700w
Hard Disk: 3000Gb TOSHIBA DT01ACA300
SSD Disk: 500Gb Samsung SSD 850 EVO
Wifi & BT: Wifi 867Mbps + Bluetooth 4.0
OS: Windows 10 Pro 64x
Screens:

• iiyama PLE2483H on the Intel UHD Graphics 630
• LG Ultragear on the Geforce
• Philips FTV on the Geforce

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Thank you everyone, for your time and advises.

May the FPS be with you.

 

[geofelt]

I have lots of thoughts on this:

For starters, look at the Phanteks Eclipse P600s :
https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p600s-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854081
Here is one review:

Phanteks Eclipse P600s review

This time we’re checking out the new Phanteks Eclipse P600S mid-tower PC chassis. The Dutch company is keeping up the pace, as this is another new product after the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X, ...

www.guru3d.com

Search for reviews so you can get an idea as to how it is put together.

You now have an ATX motherboard with 7 expansion slots.
How many of them are you now using?
My guess is exactly one for the graphics card.
Some graphics cards can occupy up to 4 slots of width.

I see no need for providing for EATX unless you are getting into server motherboards.

Look at your GTX1080. How big is the cooling fan?
I might guess it is a 92mm fan, possibly 100mm.
The fan design of modern graphics cards might have two 100mm. fans.
Your aio cooler radiator has a single 120mm fan.
The psu will have a 120mm fan.
When fans spin up to high rpm's that is what creates noise.
A fan running at 700 RPM will be inaudible.
Fans running at over 1500 rpm will be noisy.
How do you control all this.

The psu is easy, Buy a psu with much higher wattage than you need.
And, buy better than standard bronze efficiency.
The main downside is cost.
A strong and efficient psu will probably never turn on the fan.

Your aio has probably failed.
Either because the mechanical pump has failed or clogged, or, air has permeated the tubes and the unit needs to be replaced.
When working, one could allocate a 120mm front intake fan to feed it.
Ditto for the gtx1080ti.
To allow for a future graphics upgrade, three front 120mm intakes is all you theoretically would need.
140mm fans are better, they move more air at lower rpm.
The 600s referenced comes with two 140mm front intakes and a 140mm exhaust.
For cooling, a good twin tower cooler with two 135mm fans in a good case will cool anything made today reasonably well.

Have you overclocked your 8700K?
You can get some 30% more compute power by doing so.
But... at the cost of higher heat generation.
Today, you can no longer get something for nothing.
Modern processors are binned and have no significant overclocking potential.
Motherboard makers have set things to drive the processors to their max potential and beyond.

 

[Drekenof]

Hello Geofelt. I took more time than necessary to respond, because i was performing tests spread on several days.

I don't do overcloaking. For a lot of reasons, including heat.
I cleaned everything and replaced the thermalpaste inside my current pc. Heat improvement (stable 50-60) but not the fans noise.
After tests, the noise does not come from the GPU. So, it's the CPU Cooler Master Seidon 120V.
I will deep dive in the BIOS to finetune the RPM if possible. The Fan Control app on github doesn't detect the AIO cooler and the SpeedFan app doesn't seem to affect the component speed.
As far as i know, an AIO cooler should not be modified. So, to be this noisy at 50°C, i think you are true about a faulty AIO component.

For the new build:
I will check the recommended case.
For the psu, I will go for at least gold efficiency. More like platinum. And if i only need 700, i will go for higher like 1000.
Only fan cooler now, like the Thermalright phantom spirit. No IAO anymore.
Additional top and front fans too, like suggested.

For all your advises, thank you.
Have a great week.