Celeron D 360 or Pentium D 805?

[martyjs]

I don't believe Buget CPU's are crap! I have often used Celerons' or Duron CPU's. I would love to be able to buy the latest and greatest but in the real world a lot of us have no choice but to buy buget.
I have been building and using PC's since 1994 and most of the time the Celeron or Duron will do the job.
It all comes down to the buget.
Rule of thumb is always buy the best you can afford. :roll:

 

[mesarectifier]

I've never used a good Duron, and they've never 'done the job' well at all.

 

[angry_ducky]

I can't find the Celery D 360 online anywhere, so I'm using the Celery D 355. Let's do a quick specs comparison.

Pentium D 805: 2.66GHz (x2), 533MHz FSB, 2x1MB L2 cache, 90nm
Celeron D 360: 3.33GHz, 533MHz FSB, 256KB L2 cache, 90nm

The Celeron will perform better in single-threaded apps and apps that like a lot of clock speed. The D805 will slaughter it in multitasking, though. If you overclock the D805 by upping the FSB (the multiplier is locked), you'll gain more CPU bandwidth, which will speed up your whole system.

Or, as others have said, you could get a Pentium D 930 which will run cooler, and overclock better than the D805.

 

[martyjs]

I've ran both 650MHZ Duron CPU and a 1300MHZ Duron CPU, I would loved to been able to afford Athlons or P3, P4's at the time but the have both never missed a beat, let me down at anytime.
I do just about everything with my PC's
The 650's now being used by my oldest daugther, it's a bit slow now but still runs trouble free.
As for Celerons, were I work we sell stacks to business for basic POS and back room jobs. In over 5 years of selling them, No complaints.

 

[mesarectifier]

Well, I've never had a Celeron or Duron fail on me, although I've only had to RMA one CPU ever.

You can't be serious saying you can do 'just about everything' with a Duron 1.3? My dad runs a Duron 1.1 that has 64kb L2 bestowed upon it and it's slower than the P3-500 that came before it. It barely runs Opera, it hangs for 2 minutes every time he plugs in his iPod and playing music is like running Prime95 on it. It does SuperPi 1M in about 3:30 to boot.

 

[martyjs]

Prehaps I'm not a power user, but I've used it for games, burning DVD's, downloading pictures, ripping music, just about everything realy.
I'm not saying I wouldn't like a new system. (Am in planning for new, hopfully AM2 5000+ dual core running Windows Vista) What I am saying is a lot of people who have budgets must buy less then they would like.
Unless your a super power user you can usally run quite happly with a Buget CPU.
I have been using PC since 1979 (TRS80 with green screen monitor and tape drive) Love computers, left a great paying trades job to do something I love, build and use computers, Its fantastic, but sometimes we have to make do with what we have got.
Yes I agree, If you have the money go with the Pentium, but if things are a bit tight and you don't need the power the Celeron will do.
(-8

My Kids Computer is a 550MHZ P3 Cpu with an ASUS Motherboard, My 1300 Duron runs on a el cheapo ECS Motherboard. The Duron kills the P3 in every area.

 

[Plekto]

I can't find the Celery D 360 online anywhere, so I'm using the Celery D 355. Let's do a quick specs comparison.

Pentium D 805: 2.66GHz (x2), 533MHz FSB, 2x1MB L2 cache, 90nm
Celeron D 355: 3.33GHz, 533MHz FSB, 256KB L2 cache, 90nm

The 356 and 360 are 65nm chips with 512K cache, and D0 setpping to keep them quite cool. It's the processor Intel should have made five years ago.

The 360 is coming out in two months, give or take. The 356 is already out. 3.6Ghz vs 3.33Ghz, so not a real difference. The 356 uses maybe 75W in normal use, which is crazy low. I'm planning on using it to overclock to ~5.2Ghz(~200fsb).

It's a whole new game. Under $100 - gets a 3DMArk 2005 score of 10,000+

 

[BoostedVR4]

Post up some benchmarks so we can compare. I'll run anything you want on my 805D. (4.4ghz)

Not being an ass, just wanna see some numbers. I've been looking around, and no one really posts up bench numbers.

 

[dwave]

I have read through this thread and have to ask, why did you even bother asking which processor when you are defending the Celeron so much? You should just go ahead and buy it because you are talking it up so much and you already have your mind set on it.

 

[microchip246]

I have been following this thread for a little now and my question is I am a do it all on a computer. From gaming to everything else, which processor would be good for me a Pentium D 805 @3.4 or a Celey at @5.0 im thinking the Pentium d More Cache.

 

[Heyyou27]

You'll need fantastic cooling to hit 5GHz on a Celeron.

 

[microchip246]

yeah i know, I was just wondering which chip I sould get. I think im going with the 805, the celerons just seem to light in raw power.

 

[Heyyou27]

Instead of either chip, have you considered spending a little extra cash and getting the Pentium D 930? It's based off the 65nm process, has 2mb of L2 cache per core, and has a much higher stock clockspeed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116238

 

[microchip246]

yeah true. Another reason i was considering the 805 was becuase of conroe comming out and I need a cpu now. I was just thinking of the 805 to 'hold me over' a bit.

 

[quantumsheep]

Celerons are just plain crap, and the Pentium D 805 is also; go for the Pentium D 930, it's only a little more money, dual core, 2mb of L2 cache per core, and overclocks like a beast thanks to 65nm.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116238

Aye, i had a D805 @ 3.8 but it used FAR too much heat, so i replaced it with a D930 which is nice and comfortable at 4.2 on air.

 

[quantumsheep]

Just get yourself a solid P75. Far lower power consumption than the Celeron and far more stable than the 805. You see... when you remove unwanted extensions such as SSE, SSE2, MMX and you get right down to it, the Pentium 75 isn't so much different from the 356 and the 805. Now... factor in the lower bus speed. This allows for more ACCURATE data transfers. See... once you overclock or you reach bus speeds in excess of 33MHz you start losing accuracy and error checking becomes more of an issue. Go with the P75.

lol?

 

[joefriday]

You'll need fantastic cooling to hit 5GHz on a Celeron.

So I guess you're saying the stock Intel hsf is "fantastic cooling"? :?

 

[quantumsheep]

You'll need fantastic cooling to hit 5GHz on a Celeron.

So I guess you're saying the stock Intel hsf is "fantastic cooling"? :?

Well, Intel HSF are rather good after the Prescott "incident" as i like to call it.

 

[Plekto]

Going from 3.6Ghz to 5Ghz is quite reasonable for overclocking. 35% is quite reasonable. A simple Zalman fan should handle this without even flinching. 6ghz would likely require water cooling, though, which is not cost-effective.

Yes - the 930 is a good choice, but IT'S TWICE THE PRICE. I'm not paying $100 more for a small speed increase.

As for the "defending" part - I wanted results and thankfully someone posted them. The knee-jerk "Celeron bad - P4 good" response by half of you here was expected, though. In my book, if it can get a 3D mark score of 10,000 it's not junk, no matter who makes it.

 

[mesarectifier]

It's been 5 days and you seem very sure of the Celeron - have you ordered yet? (Better still got it up and running)

 

[Plekto]

I originally was going to buy a 356 but I'm waiting until the 360 comes out. When that happens, I'll make the system.

 

[Heyyou27]

Even then

At 5GHz, it manages to outclass a 2MB L2 Pentium 4 670 running at 3.8GHz, pretty easily.

So it’s able to outperform a PRESCOTT clocked 1.2Ghz slower; I still say Pentium D 930.

 

[quantumsheep]

Even then At 5GHz, it manages to outclass a 2MB L2 Pentium 4 670 running at 3.8GHz, pretty easily.

So it’s able to outperform a PRESCOTT clocked 1.2Ghz slower; I still say Pentium D 930.

Word.

 

[BoostedVR4]

No one has a Celeron so we can some comparisons?

 

[dt]

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well the guy who posted the question before me answers the question already what processor you should get.

my thoughts, get the 805 d , no point of spending money on 930 .

how much of a increase is from the 805 to 930?