Question Changed coolers and added RAM

[beauknowsdiddly]

Hey Everyone,
I recently changed my Cooler from the Noctua NH-D15S to the H170i elite capellix liquid cooler and went from 16GB RAM to 64GB. I'm using a Gigabyte x470 Aorus ultra Gaming ATX mobo with a Ryzen 7 2700X cpu and a GTX 1070 GPU. When I switched everything over I removed the Battery thinking it would reset the clock speed. When I finally got it back up and running the bios said it was reset but the clock speed reads 4.2. I dunno it that's what the default was or not to be honest. I think it was 3.7 but I could be wrong. Anyway I've been playing Dying Light 2 with no issues before the change and now it crashes after playing for about 2 minutes. I know nothing about overclocking but the game ran just fine before any over clocking at all. What could be the issue? Can I send you some shots of my BIOS. What pages do you need?

 

[acadia11]

You try going back down to 16gb and seeing if it’s ram instability?

 

[beauknowsdiddly]

You try going back down to 16gb and seeing if it’s ram instability?

No but XMP was on (profile 1 loaded) in BIOS and I disabled that and now the game works just fine. I don't get it.

 

[Unolocogringo]

Adding/mixing ram kits is hit or miss.
Try running with just one kit installed.
Or you may need to do a HARD reset to train the new memory.

 

[Misgar]

When I finally got it back up and running the bios said it was reset but the clock speed reads 4.2. I dunno it that's what the default was or not to be honest. I think it was 3.7 but I could be wrong.

3.7GHz is what is termed the "base clock speed" for a Ryzen 2700X. The motherboard BIOS can automatically boost one or two CPU cores up to 4.3GHz on lightly threaded loads. It can also reduce the CPU clock speed, possibly as low as 800MHz when the system is idling. This has nothing to do with manually overclocking the CPU, where you make changes in the BIOS to push the CPU harder than AMD's default settingss. To recap, rapidly changing CPU frequencies, jumping around between 800MHz and 4.3GHz, are normal for a 2700X.

I removed the Battery thinking it would reset the clock speed.

Removing the CMOS battery would probably remove any manual CPU overclock you might have set, but since you don't know anything about overclocking, it's probable your CPU was running at stock (default) frequencies, as I described above.

No but XMP was on (profile 1 loaded) in BIOS and I disabled that and now the game works just fine. I don't get it.

Running XMP, especially with four sticks of RAM instead of two is a lottery, as many people discover. Four DIMMS place additional loading on the CPUs IMC (integrated Memory Controller) channels, making fast XMP overclocks less stable.

If you don't buy a single kit of four matched DIMMs, but instead install two pairs of unmatched DIMMs, instability can result. It doesn't matter if both pairs of DIMMs have exactly the same part number. They're unlikely to come from the same batch and may contain different memory chips or timings.

If you now have four DIMMs installed, they'll be much more stable running at "stock" JEDEC speeds (probably 2133 or 2400MT/s) with XMP disabled.

The maximum speed guaranteed by AMD for the 2700X is DDR4-2933 and even that might be difficult to achieve with four DIMMs. If you were trying to run four DIMMs at 3000MT/s or faster, it's not surprising the system fails.

You can often get round these hurdles and achieve significantly faster XMP speeds (above 3000MT/s) with some judicious manual tweaking. You have to learn which Primary (Secondary and Tertiary) timings need adjusting in the BIOS, when the automatic XMP settings fail.

I managed to get my 2600X to run at DDR4-3000 on two DIMMs by manually relaxing the CL(CAS) setting by 2 clock cycles. I seem to remember I changed it from CL18 to CL20. You could try CL17 instead of CL15 on your RAM. Load XMP 3000, then tweak the CL setting on each DIMM using manual control.

 

[acadia11]

No but XMP was on (profile 1 loaded) in BIOS and I disabled that and now the game works just fine. I don't get it.

XMP timings may be too tight , who knows, but it’s resolved.

 

[stuff and nonesense]

No but XMP was on (profile 1 loaded) in BIOS and I disabled that and now the game works just fine. I don't get it.

If you must use XMP try swapping the ram sticks 2 and 4 into 1 and 3.. and vice versa. Then try enabling XMP.

Your ram may simply be mismatched.

 

[beauknowsdiddly]

I never did mention the RAM, sorry about that. I got 2 sets of the CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz CL18-22-22-42 1.35V.

And now that you mention it I did install them one after the other in the DIMM slots instead of every other slot. Let me switch the 2 middle ones. That should make it right.

 

[beauknowsdiddly]

Well now I have no PC, When I first put it together it didn't boot right up either. All I did then was unplug the two power spots on the mobo and plug them back in and it booted up. Feels like there's a somewhere I dunno. This time all I did was switch the two middle RAMS and now I have no power. I cannot get it to power on no matter what. I dunno what to do. The only thing I can think is to try and get a new PSU. This one's an 850 watt. What would you guys recommend I get?

 

[stuff and nonesense]

Above the front panel connector on the right hand edge of the motherboard are 4 leds. They are below the SATA connectors and sys fan 4.

What happens to them when you try to boot?

 

[beauknowsdiddly]

Above the front panel connector on the right hand edge of the motherboard are 4 leds. They are below the SATA connectors and sys fan 4.

What happens to them when you try to boot?

Well I didn't really get a chance to check although I'm certain they didn't light up at all. Nothing on the board lit up. HOWEVER I hit the power button and out the blue the thing booted up. I dunno what's going on. It's like it takes 20 minutes for the juice to flow before it will bootl I mean I unplugged the power turned off the power switch, moved the RAM around, plugged it back in, turned on the switch and nothing. I checked the power connections on the board everything is snug it's just not booting up. No power period. I walked away for about 20 minutes, came back and hit the power button and it booted up. What the heck?!?!?

So after all that I made sure all the RAM is properly placed and I still can't play the game with XMP enabled. So I'm still at the beginning. I don't know that I even need xmp enabled I was just trying to learn about overclocking and following a youtube suggestion and it started with enabling xmp.

 

[stuff and nonesense]

You have been into bios, can you see what the memory speed the motherboard sets when not XMP.

It will be around 2100 or 2600.

 

[boju]

Well now I have no PC, When I first put it together it didn't boot right up either. All I did then was unplug the two power spots on the mobo and plug them back in and it booted up. Feels like there's a somewhere I dunno. This time all I did was switch the two middle RAMS and now I have no power. I cannot get it to power on no matter what. I dunno what to do. The only thing I can think is to try and get a new PSU. This one's an 850 watt. What would you guys recommend I get?

Memory training can take a couple of minutes before posting a display, that was probably the reason first time.

Now, you did power down completely before switching ram right? Doing this while there's power still running through is a sure way to kill the board, not the psu.

It was either that or one or both ram isn't seated properly. Power down, disconnect power cord and hold case power button down for a good 20 seconds to discharge remaining power left in psu/motherboard capacitors.

 

[boju]

So after all that I made sure all the RAM is properly placed and I still can't play the game with XMP enabled. So I'm still at the beginning. I don't know that I even need xmp enabled I was just trying to learn about overclocking and following a youtube suggestion and it started with enabling xmp.

I suggest re-reading post #5 by @Misgar