Chia crypto farmers are discovering low endurance consumer SSDs are not tailored for write-intensive workloads.
Chia Crypto Plotting Can Destroy an SSD in Weeks : Read more
Chia Crypto Plotting Can Destroy an SSD in Weeks : Read more
Would a computer with 512GB memory be able to create plots without damaging the disk?
I am thinking of having the whole chia plot done inside of memory and not on hard disk. Does it allow that? Many workstations and servers have 512GB of memory...Regardless what size your SSD has, its lifespan is limited and the SSD must be replaced.
yes you can, just watch the video from der8auer. It's just not very useful because you can only do one plot at a timeI am thinking of having the whole chia plot done inside of memory and not on hard disk. Does it allow that? Many workstations and servers have 512GB of memory...
It would last the entire 5 year warranty period. 5800x drives are rated to be able to write the entire capacity of the drive 100 times a day. If you had an 800GB drive, you would be able to plot 3 plots at a time which uses about 1.4TB each, so you wouldn't be remotely close to the daily write limit.so a new Intel P5800X with 100DWPD would last how long?
It isn't. It depends on how much you have. Deb8uer tested a system with 512GB of RAM. Each plot requires about 240GiB of capacity, so you could probably do 2 plots at a time with enough left over to keep the system up and running. The problem is the extreme upfront cost of that much RAM. Spending $3500 on RAM alone to be able to maybe do 2 plots at a time, you'd never recover the money you were putting in. 1 TB SSD is around $100. For the cost of 512GB of RAM, ignoring the cost of the rest of the system to support that much, you could buy over 30 SSD's.I wonder if Mr. Stoner is on to something. A compute server with a TB of RAM is certainly possible if your pockets are deep enough. Why would doing it all in RAM be limited to one plot at a time?
8x 64GB RAM and an 8 slot motherboard, just to prevent killing off a $75 consumer grade SSD...how does that make any financial sense.I am thinking of having the whole chia plot done inside of memory and not on hard disk. Does it allow that? Many workstations and servers have 512GB of memory...
Here's a bold pitch:
Lets just stop giving our money and resources over to every random basement-dwelling "crypto developer" or backdoor government who wants to sell imaginary internet numbers for a billion dollars. We don't need to help these people build themselves the world's largest personal RAID array.
Have you considered that its a bad idea to buy storage for the sole purpose of renting it out to an anonymous stranger for a tiny fraction of its real value? You don't even know what pirated darkweb botnet garbage "the inventor of BitTorrent" is storing on your computer. Despite what they want you to believe, it's not just random data. The "winning" plots aren't even random - you just happened to be storing some slice of data they wanted to read back.
Ask yourself: "If all they are doing with your machine is "proof of time and space", then why exactly do they need to be constantly writing huge amounts of new data?"
You need to replace a consumer-grade SSD every couple of weeks. If you plan on mining Chia long-term, you will be spending $1000+/year replacing cheap SSDs. You are far better off using higher-end SSDs with 20+X the write endurance for 3X the cost per TB.8x 64GB RAM and an 8 slot motherboard, just to prevent killing off a $75 consumer grade SSD...how does that make any financial sense.
Don't go blowing all your cash on ridiculous amounts of hardware. I think the best way to make money out of CHIA or any other cryptocurrency for that matter is: SELL HIGH, BUY LOW
{GoofyOne's 2c worth ... or perhaps it's 0.000000000000001 CHIA's worth}
The last time I used an online calculator to have an estimation on what Chia would give me, using the best config that I can afford. The results are pretty cold, around $40 of return after a couple of months, not even enough for my electricity bill.
It seems that if you do it with your personal computer, it's only for fun. You won't become millionaire without spending hundreds of thousands USD worth of hardware to run a full-time Chia mining machine room.
Yes I agree with everything said here!
Add to that, coin mining is just a colossal waste of resources, and no matter what hardware the latest mining craze runs on - whether it's GPUs or CPU processes or SSD storage space, any hardware you put into a mining rig is going to have really quick failure rates due to the hardware being used to its' maximum extent. You can only push things so far. Those graphics cards and SSDs will most likely wind up in landfills after they've lived out their usefulness.
And as I keep saying, the people who are actually getting rich off this stuff, are people who you wouldn't trust with 15 cents, let alone millions or billions. In the end the cryptocurrency gold rush is going to wind up like the 1849 gold rush. It will be fool's gold and real winners will be the people selling the mining equipment. In this case, it's Samsung, NVIDIA, AMD, Intel, and Western Digital.
There won't be any changes where HDDs are concerned since enterprise-grade HDDs have been in use in IO-intensive workloads for decades already. Anything that could possibly be thought of to improve drive reliability, speed, density, etc. has either already been done or is already being worked on regardless of Chia.It will be interesting to see what improvements hard drives designers and manufacturers think of using to address the issue of disk deterioration due to continual writing/caching and its effects on drive longevity, in the face of this new area of digital mining and related hardware requirements.