News China Debuts First 7nm Data Center GPU To Rival Nvidia, AMD

[Endymio]

Hmm... Can you remember me what the USA Freedom Act is about? ... Ah yes, forcing mandatory retention of metadata by IT companies with access by the US gov.

So much misinformation. Companies must release metadata data only upon receiving a court order, for stated reasons justified to a court, and after doing so, are allowed to inform the public that information has been divulged. The metadata in question is only for traffic entering or leaving the US from a foreign source. Also, the metadata about a contact (phone call, email, etc) is far less of a privacy invasion than the actual contact itself.

Comparing this structured, regulated and limited process to China's million-man army of Internet censors all working full-time to pore over every detail of every phone call, email, text message, and forum post their own citizens make is puerile absurdity.

 

[Novarek]

So much misinformation. Companies must release metadata data only upon receiving a court order, for stated reasons justified to a court, and after doing so, are allowed to inform the public that information has been divulged. The metadata in question is only for traffic entering or leaving the US from a foreign source. Also, the metadata about a contact (phone call, email, etc) is far less of a privacy invasion than the actual contact itself.

Comparing this structured, regulated and limited process to China's million-man army of Internet censors all working full-time to pore over every detail of every phone call, email, text message, and forum post their own citizens make is puerile absurdity.

Really? And the PRISM and XKeyscore programme? That was regulated?
The espionage of European Chancellery , regulated as well?
Not like if they was some whistleblower that our dear "defender of the free world" actively try to catch up either.
And I'm not defending China either, but at least you know from the start very well what you should expect with them, but with America... if hypocrisy was a country oncle SAM would be its king without a doubt.

You CANNOT compare China or Russian government or (my country) Iran's regime to US government. I'm not saying they are angels BUT THERE IS NO COMPARISON; stop talking like a child.

Oh I totaly can, and you should as well, no one is beyound critics and if you try to judge differently each country from a pure moral value perspective, you only giving excuse to things which are unaceptable by default, mass surveillance is still mass surveillance, no matter the type of gov doing it.

 

[Endymio]

Really? And the PRISM and XKeyscore programme? That was regulated?

Glad you asked. Yes it was -- Prism collected data on non-US citizens, and never in bulk-- only targeted requests. So what's your beef? As for Xkeyscore, since it didn't collect data, but merely collated data collected through other means, I don't know what legal restrictions you believe it should involve.

And I'm not defending China either

Sure you are, with false equivalences, red herrings, and other fallacious diversions.

if you try to judge differently each country from a pure moral value perspective, you only giving excuse

You are of course missing the point entirely. The moral issue only involves a nation spying on its own citizens. But the pragmatic issue is the one we're most concerned with here. You are arguing that, because the US collects intelligence on China, that it should therefore allow China unlimited access to place back-doors in all US security systems and freely collect and steal whatever military and industrial secrets they desire.