News Chinese chipmaker Phytium sells over 10 million homegrown CPUs — Feiteng processors are primarily used in national projects and key local industries

[Admin]

Chinese chip maker Phytium reportedly delivered over 10 million processors to government projects and other key industries as it replaces Western processors from Intel and AMD.

Chinese chipmaker Phytium sells over 10 million homegrown CPUs — Feiteng processors are primarily used in national projects and key local industries : Read more

 

[Gururu]

Its nice to see a nation make achievements on their own, keeps competitive nations on their toes.

 

[bit_user]

For example, last year, the company revealed the 64-core Feiteng Tengyun S2500 server CPU and the Phytium FTC870, rivaling Arm’s Neoverse N2 chip.

First, the FTC870 and N2 are cores, not chips. Second I'm quite skeptical of this claim.

From the linked article, here's the performance data they quoted:

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Pay close attention to the N1-based Altra. If we compensate for the clockspeed difference, it should get scores of 4.73 and 5.36 at 3 GHz. That would make the N2 24.0% and 27.8% faster, respectively. These numbers are significantly below how ARM said their N2 cores compare with N1:

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Also, I wonder what vehicle they even had for measuring the N2 cores, like 14 months ago (when Phytium published its slide).

I'm also quite curious how they compare on energy efficiency and scalability. I think probably not well.

 

[erazog]

Well they are going to run into a semiconductor manufacturing wall eventually which will stall development.

The companies that control the secrets to advanced nodes are closed to outsiders and these are co-operating with Washington. It will take them 15-20 years to close the gap of now and western fabs wont be sitting still and moving forward.

 

[das_stig]

and right now you can see Intel and AMD account managers crying over their $30 coffees missing out on those sales, they will just have to buy and America car and not a German or Italian this year, while waiting another year to upgrade to their next 20 year old bimbo plastic girlfriend.

 

[bit_user]

Well they are going to run into a semiconductor manufacturing wall eventually which will stall development.

I think they already have. That's why their scalability is limited to 64 cores, at a time when designs like Neoverse N2 can scale up to 192 cores. Their energy efficiency is probably also taking a huge hit.

and right now you can see Intel and AMD account managers crying over their $30 coffees missing out on those sales,

Yup, the loss of the Chinese market has got to be hurting, but I think everyone knew it was only a matter of time.

The bigger worry is if/when China manages to offer properly competitive solutions, then Intel/AMD/Nvidia will start losing dominance in many other markets. This has already happened in telecoms, for instance.