News Chinese chipmaker's new 7nm CPUs reportedly outperform Intel's Raptor Lake — Loongson adopts "tock-tock-tick" strategy to close the gap with Intel

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LMAO, I'll believe when I see it reviewed and torn down by a non-Chinese reviewer. This is coming from a person who generally thinks Chinese CPU companies can eventually reach near parity with Intel/AMD. This is probably some hype piece that leaves out it taking obscene amount of power, tons of cores, or some use of western IP in order to reach those gigantic claims. The amount of progress made in such a short time makes me really doubt the authenticity, especially when Chinese GPU companies are still about a decade behind (although the situation between CPU and GPU development might not match up very well).
 
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Yeah I agree I don't buy into this hype. Are we going to find out they are comparing an Intel quad core to their eight core part which has been common in these hype pieces from Chinese companies? I honestly don't know but I would hardly be surprised if this ends up being the case. But as stated by others the so called gains they've been claiming have been mostly vaporware and the result of headhunting those with the expertise/IP access of western countries. Time will tell where this actually leads, or doesn't.
 
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Anybody that believes this IMMEDIATELY needs to head to ChipsandCheese.com and see the kind of jump that implies. Right now, they’re slower than an Alder Lake e core, so about 1/3 the power of a Raptor Cove core but the next model will outperform Raptor Lake? Ok then.
 
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Besides China and China friendlies, who's going to use these CPUs, actually better question, who in the Western market would actually buy in them in any quantity?
Beating or matching Intel these days should not be a talking point lol
With the amount of IP theft that happens in China. I'd hope they'd be able to catch up to Intel and AMD, otherwise they're doing a bad job.
 
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LMAO, I'll believe when I see it reviewed and torn down by a non-Chinese reviewer. This is coming from a person who generally thinks Chinese CPU companies can eventually reach near parity with Intel/AMD. This is probably some hype piece that leaves out it taking obscene amount of power, tons of cores, or some use of western IP in order to reach those gigantic claims. The amount of progress made in such a short time makes me really doubt the authenticity, especially when Chinese GPU companies are still about a decade behind (although the situation between CPU and GPU development might not match up very well).
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They are on tsmc 7nm I guarantee.
 
Gotchya, theoretical / lab / low-ish volume CPU's. That or China is breaking trade sanctions -- take your pick.

And yes, it's easy to beat up on Intel these days because Intel has failed haaaaaaaard for heck, I don't know, a decade!? Intel had some saving grace that 10nm was comparable to TSMC 7nm, but that only does so good when it took 4+ years for Intel 10nm ("Intel 7") to reach high-volume production while TSMC ran away with everyone's piggy's banks.

It's not subjective, it's objective; the proof is in the pudding. That said, this isn't about Intel, it's China and the CCP doing everything possible to claim goodwill and progress in the world while almost every advanced society can readily call B.S. on their propaganda machine.
 
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Back in early 2021, China announced that their space station was nearing completion and launching. Like you I took this with a large pinch of salt. The then NASA administrator Charles Boldin has this to say : "Technologically I don't think they're going to catch up as long as we keep up with the pace that we are going in terms of human space flight."
Fast forward today, their Tiangong space station has been in use and expanded for the past 3 years. Their Chang'e lunar module 6 has gone to the far side of the moon and back with samples. While NASA astronauts are still stranded in space. It would not be wise to knick down and write off their efforts too soon. Elon Musk made the same mistake back on 2011 when he laughed at Chinese ev maker BYD for making crappy cars. Today they have surpassed Tesla as the largest ev company in the world. They even added a pinch of your salt to his wound when he added BYD as one of his battery suppliers. He knows for a fact their blade battery which is used in model Y, is one of the safest battery tech around.
So don't be Elon Musk 2 in a hurry.
 
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We all know that this is totally fake.
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I thought their space station was a total fake too, when they announced they were building one back in 2010. There was no one else that was technically capable of building one, other than Nasa and the Russians.
So don't be in a rush to eat humble pie like Elon Musk did.
 
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Gotchya, theoretical / lab / low-ish volume CPU's. That or China is breaking trade sanctions -- take your pick.

And yes, it's easy to beat up on Intel these days because Intel has failed haaaaaaaard for heck, I don't know, a decade!? Intel had some saving grace that 10nm was comparable to TSMC 7nm, but that only does so good when it took 4+ years for Intel 10nm ("Intel 7") to reach high-volume production while TSMC ran away with everyone's piggy's banks.

It's not subjective, it's objective; the proof is in the pudding. That said, this isn't about Intel, it's China and the CCP doing everything possible to claim goodwill and progress in the world while almost every advanced society can readily call B.S. on their propaganda machine.
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Well you can ask NASA for one, if they think China's progress in their space program is just BS on their propaganda machine. Mind you China does not have any problem with leaks in their spacecraft or their astronauts being stranded in space. Nothing of that sort. Unlike the other space superpower.
 
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Should Tomshardware still be writing stories about what China SAYS?
China is currently known for saying things that are completely not true. Rewrite this story after running the chip through a few benchmarks.
Do a before/after of your current story and we can see how accurate China's latest claims are.

Oh btw guys, did you hear about my chip? It performs as good or better than a 14900k. It's edible too! 😉
 
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"The 3B6600, for example, is claimed to perform at par with Intel 12th—and 13th-generation CPUs thanks to its new eight LA864 cores with a clock frequency of just 3 GHz. It will be tapped out in 2025."

So a chip that is not even far enough in development to have a prototype or engineering sample, with only 8 cores, running at only 3GHz will somehow match the multicore monsters running at 5GHz+ that intel/AMD produce.

Stop the presses folks, this is real news!
 
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